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Driving the Future of Innovation at Sony | GDC Conference Thread (possible VR reveal)
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nero2082
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I made this just in time I hope!
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akachan ningen
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you can look anywhere as long as you move your head
Unless you're a paraplegic and can't move your head, you can see what's behind you.
backbreaker65
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What did Sony learn from last PS4 reveal? They had Hardware to show as well as demos to try. I have a feeling if the press and public that tries oh MOMO that's my name for Morpheus, and give great feedback as far experience and graphics, I think Sony will green light it for this year. If they get negative feed back about presence/graphics et cetera they will cook it a little longer. I think its a brilliant move to get this type of feed back.
I think it would be cool if devs offered 2 versions of their game the VR version only available on the PSN. This way they don't have to spend money on brick and mortar. Of course the VR version will have a little less graphics if this thing isn't up to snuff to run 1080/60 at the graphical detail like anton said sacrificing aliasing.
I think it would be cool if devs offered 2 versions of their game the VR version only available on the PSN. This way they don't have to spend money on brick and mortar. Of course the VR version will have a little less graphics if this thing isn't up to snuff to run 1080/60 at the graphical detail like anton said sacrificing aliasing.
Most reports were the complete opposite of that. It was described as a "generational leap" over the original dev kit specifically because they demonstrated low persistence. Their demonstration showed complete removal of blur and the ability to discern text clearly while quickly moving your head around, opposed to visual smearing with the original developer kit
googleplex
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I was under the impression that OLED has better pixel switching time and less blurring. Making it better for VR.
FOV is the field of view. You can turn your head 360.
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On the slide it said 90+ fov.
xDUMPWEEDx
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So uh.... no Vita Slim Borderlands 2 bundle release date? -_-
RoadHazard
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Of course you can. 90 degrees is your "vision cone", which always faces the direction your head is turned. So as you turn around the "cone" rotates with you.
IllumiNate
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Are you guys saying that $300 is too expensive being serious?? There's no fucking way it'll be anything less then that. I guess companies should just give shit away. People spend $300 on wireless "5.1 surround" headsets. Do u think Occulus Rift will be less then $300? lol my bets on $399.
Reallink
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Move 1.0 is fundamentally incompatible with VR though. You will have to have dual tracking (i.e. both hands), likely at least one analog stick, and better button placement/design. Move's default base config only tracks one hand, relies on a non-tracked Navigation for analog, and primarily relies on a single oversized button for input. That's simply not going to cut the mustard as a VR interface.
Wrong trade show.
where did you read it? It was blurry if they turned off the low persistence mode to show how it nearly eliminates motion blur when turned on.
Ah that's good to hear, maybe it was the original headset I'm thinking of.
I'm trying to find where I read that but no luck so far. I must have been thinking of the original Rift.
I don't see how a Vita Slim Borderlands 2 bundle release date will drive the future of innovation at Sony.
Yes, the HD prototype is 1080p, it's assumed dk2 will be 1080p as well, but with crystal cove they refused to clarify. They also said that the positional tracking is definitely confirmed with crystal cove but they "may not necessarily" be using the LEDs and camera as a final positional tracking system. They apparently put the crystal cove prototype together by hand specifically for CES (hence why it's so fat). Still not sure why though
I'll be impressed if it's only 300.
Iced_Eagle
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Because CC wasn't designed for mass manufacturing since it's just a prototype.
I heard one reporter say he thought the screendoor with cc was a little more pronounced than the hd prototype at e3. That plus oculus's refusal to confirm the panel's res made me wonder if it was quite 1080p. But yeah, I didn't hear anyone say it was blurry.
wanderingprostheyltite
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There's no way they're gonna sell this close to the price of the system itself, it would turn away too many potential adopters, and that's what they need if they're truly serious about getting VR mainstream. I think they'll sell at a loss and recoup on software sales for the VR killer app experiences.
Less than ideal? Perhaps, but incompatible? Hardly. They could easily design games around it, particularly since the primary draw of VR is in the headset. Even a single hand tracked in 3D space is a bonus as most Oculus demos (and remember, these have been wowing people left and right) don't even use that, just a regular joystick. I could also easily make the argument that even a Move 2.0 might be unappealing unless it's a haptic-enhanced glove device.
I'm not saying they won't design a Move 2.0, I'm just saying they're unlikely to require one, especially if it hampers adoption of the device.
Yes it was so fat because of that (cables etc.) and why? Because it was enough to win the official best of CES award and some other awards.
Yeah, I just think it's odd, given the generally accepted issues with LCD VR, and the fact they specifically cited low persistence, but didn't give us a framerate.
I'm not down on it at all, if I could order it right now, I would, I've been waiting for consumer VR forever, I've been waiting this announcement for a couple of years, I'm extremely excited. I was joking in the previous thread, but VR is seriously the first major jump in immersion and control since Mario 64, it is the most important gaming technology for a very long time. But that's all the more reason to want it to be fantastic from day one.
Who knows, maybe we'll get multiple SKUs and they can make me pay for my OLED preference, I have no problem with that.
Agreed. It's the next visual medium after TV, and will be used as much. $300 isn't out of the question, in fact, it's probably the starting point.
nycgamer4ever
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ps4 check
move check
Ps eye check
$500 gift card from Christmas check
I'm ready with no money needed.
Melchiah
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Can you play FTP games on the XB1 without a Live subscription? As for indies, Sony has so far catered their needs better. And Resogun was published by SCE.
I'm not. Probably a 2015 thing. But no later than that I'd imagine.
Nope, it was all VR.
disastermouse
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I'm a headphone geek. My balls hit the floor at 'binaural surround' and 'use your own headphones'.
This is what I'm thinking, sony have been experimenting since 2010 almost 3 and a half years. I'd say probably fall 2015 for release and hype us with working games throughout 2014-2015
what i really like about this design
is that it looks like you could flip up the front, where the screen is, without moving the whole HMD. But i dont think white is the color to go with it. It looks nice when nobody wears it but if you wear it white could be to "flashy" compared to normal black.
is that it looks like you could flip up the front, where the screen is, without moving the whole HMD. But i dont think white is the color to go with it. It looks nice when nobody wears it but if you wear it white could be to "flashy" compared to normal black.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Not a chance in my book.
This tech will come to the fore in the middle stages of the PS4s lifecycle probably. That said, I think mid 2015 release is possible.
Deadly Joker
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No. Even Elder Scrolls Online requires Xbox Live Gold.
PS4 does not require Plus to play it.
Melchiah
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Which might be the reason why those FTP games are not on the XB1.
Welcome to Sony 'we thought of it before it got popular' innovation.
Shame, probably should have carved out a small chunk of the time to at least provide a roadmap on firmware updates.
I don't know, Oculus backers maybe? ;-)
xcharles718
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I disagree. The Playstation Camera does have some functionality(though relatively trivial in comparison to the likes of Microsoft's Kinect). Though my main argument for the camera is that not including it might come off for to the general public as "one more thing I have to buy" and that alone will turn some away. A $20 cut in margins is much better than missing out on a (hopefully)$300 sale.
googleplex
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Sony could be just really confident in the tri-luminous displays their using in their smartphones and TV's. We'll know tomorrow how will it stacks up against Crystal Cove and Valves prototype.
Sony's device doesn't have to be the best HMD on the block just "good enough" to get the job done and be priced right.
No way, I think it'll hit this year.
No doubt, but if the price difference is minimal, and the impact is major, I think it's a poor decision, but I don't know, we'll see when we get impressions. It's not the black levels, it's just the pixel fill and persistence, if they're as good, or nearly as good as OLED, that's totally fine.
googleplex
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Oh, I'm right there with you. These are concerns for me also. The OLED on my Vita and Super AMOLED on my Note 2 are gorgeous. We'll hear about it one way or another tomorrow.
They're clearly still in a discovery and inquiry phase with this tech. It's not this year unless they're somehow hurting badly for traditional software for the PS4 during the holidays, which just doesn't seem possible. There's no need to rush.