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PAL Charts - Week 14, 2014

L

lherre

Accurate
Here in Spain we have an official ps4 bundle with MGS Ground Zeroes and 2 controllers.

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Is it available in UK?
 
P

Pain

Banned
Kazuma Kiryu said:
Yes, it is.
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Dude, that's the 2014 chart, it includes months of data.
Kazuma Kiryu said:
It's not the shakers list, it's the overall 2014 list. TF has been in the #1 spot for, from what I recall, more than a month now.
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The Movers & Shakers list isn't a good source either. The hourly best-sellers chart is the better indicator of sales.
Kazuma Kiryu said:
Read my previous posts. That's the shakers list, which is completely pointless.

At least look at the monthly charts to have some decent indicator. TF is the #1 game for 2014, which is better than any silly amazon shakers list, which changes every hour or so.
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You're wrong. The link Astro provided you is the CURRENT best-sellers.
The Moves charts is something else entirely. See here http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/movers-and-shakers/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsms
unapersson said:
You can get April's list so far: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2014-04/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar
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Smart man. *high five*
 
O

*offensive_nickname*

Banned
Coulomb_Barrier said:
Can a console survive mainly just off sales in the US? Surely that hasn't happened with any console before. The US market is big, but not that big.
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yes

us is 50% of 360 market
35 mio xbox one liftetime in the us ( 5 mio pa for 7 year cycle)
15 mio anywhere else

that would make the us 70% for xbox one market


50 mio consoles world wide. not tooo bad..
and definitely enough to survice
 
S

SwiftDeath

Member
*offensive_nickname* said:
me, too
but just because of one reason

the playstaion 4 success was overwhelming for sony
so they thought this could help the first party games / software in general for good sells.

but the ps4 get sold becaus of its own. because of the piece of hardware. the games are just the reason #3 or something like that. this will probably change if u get uncharted 4 or gt7, but i never heard anyone saying "omg i need to get a ps4, so i can play killzone or knack" and just a very few people say that for infamous
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Eh the sales projections for Infamous would be made far before the PS4 launched and likely before development of the game even started so that the budget could be determined.

Granted there would be various levels of success suggested in those projections but Sony would have acceptable levels and very likely Sony was willing to let Infamous be a loss-leader [i.e. accept less revenue on the game than it cost to make] to improve the value proposition for their console early in its life. Thus if it manages to turn more revenue than it cost to make/market etc. Sony would be happy

Furthermore as the sales projections would've absolutely been made before the PS4 launched, the fact that the PS4 is likely at around 7 million WW now versus the 5 million WW that Sony projected means the console is about 40% ahead of their own sales projections most likely. So the chances that Infamous falls below what would most certainly be highly conservative sales projections are unlikely
 
O

*offensive_nickname*

Banned
SwiftDeath said:
Eh the sales projections for Infamous would be made far before the PS4 launched and likely before development of the game even started so that the budget could be determined.
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sure. but projections can be adjusted over time.
if the question is about to break even, ur right. thats long time (ago) projections

but as i said. it all depends.
maybe sony is fine for ifss doing itself and there initial projetctions
but maybe they're a bit sad about infamous not doing at the same point above their expecation like the console itself.



we dont know
 
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SwiftDeath

Member
*offensive_nickname* said:
sure. but projections can be adjusted over time.
if the question is about to break even, ur right. thats long time (ago) projections

but as i said. it all depends.
maybe sony is fine for ifss doing itself and there initial projetctions
but maybe they're a bit sad about infamous not doing the at the same point above their expecation like the console itself.

we dont know
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If Sony was okay with Infamous being a loss leader at the onset of the project which they most likely were then regardless of how their internal projections might've been altered due to current success, sales will almost certainly fall within a region Sony was happy with.

Maybe not as happy as they could be? Sure but that doesn't change much. I think that Sucker Punch will likely get a greenlight on whatever their next game is based on ISS sales. I'm curious if it will simply be another infamous game
 
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Kazuma Kiryu

Member
Pain said:
Dude, that's the 2014 chart, it includes months of data.
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Yeah, that's the point. A game being the #1 title for ALL of 2014 is better than it being #1 in March or April or whatever other interval you can think of. It climbed to the #1 spot in mid February or so, when the marketing blitz started and hasn't dropped since.
TF was the #2 title for February and #1 for March.

The Movers & Shakers list isn't a good source either. The hourly best-sellers chart is the better indicator of sales.
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Seems like people are buying batman like crazy, it's even #3 right now. Batman Origins to chart next week because some folks are buying it right now during an hour or two.

There isn't much to discuss here if you believe that hourly reports from amazon are good indicator of sales to establish some sort of correlation with these weekly reports (and TF's position in them).
 
P

PsychoSoldier

Banned
Riky said:
Titanfall has legs, word of mouth is going to help just like the first Modern Warfare.
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We'll see but I remember the way in which CoD4 took hold basically immediately and never let go. Doesn't seem to me like Titanfall has that hold on the charts anywhere but we'll see if it can slow burn itself to that kind of scale.
 
N

noobie

Banned
Mrbob said:
TF is practically being given away to boost xb1 hardware sales so I don't know what suspense in April you are looking for.
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i wander how many those are form bundles and how many standalone.. bundling can help but the reviews on Amazon does not suggest its highly liked by the buyers.. So i m not sure if it will become next COD.

around 3.3/5 on Amazon USA
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DB9JYFY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

and around 4/5 on Amazon UK
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00D781WO0/
 
F

Friction

Member
noobie said:
i wander how many those are form bundles and how many standalone.. bundling can help but the reviews on Amazon does not suggest its highly liked by the buyers.. So i m not sure if it will become next COD.

around 3.3/5 on Amazon USA
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DB9JYFY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

and around 4/5 on Amazon UK
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00D781WO0/
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Online shooters are rarely rated more than 4 on amazon reviews, even the popular ones. The audience for those games are a bit on the vocal side.
 
D

Dragonborn

Member
Beysus said:
Well, the game is bundled. Same goes with Infamous.
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Not the same. TF is bunlded in for free along with price cuts. InFamous is bundled but you have to pay more. There also seems to be way more TF bundles. At this point I doubt the X1 would sell without packig a free game in
 
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TechnicPuppet

Nothing! I said nothing!
Are people actually suggesting TF isn't popular in the UK, that it's relying on XB1 sales. I think people need to have a look at those week 1 sales again.
 
S

SwiftDeath

Member
TechnicPuppet said:
Are people actually suggesting TF isn't popular in the UK, that it's relying on XB1 sales. I think people need to have a look at those week 1 sales again.
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Are you suggesting TF would be selling the exact same amount in the UK if it wasn't being bundled with what is likely the most popular SKU to buy?
 
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SwiftDeath

Member
TechnicPuppet said:
I'm suggesting it sold brilliantly regardless of being a pack in.
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How can you say that objectively though? All UK numbers so far include copies of sales sold in the TF bundles

I think TF would've sold gangbusters either way but if the main SKU that people are going to buy of your console is going to include a game than that game is most certainly going to get a significant boost from it
 
R

RetroStu

Banned
A lot of salt in this thread regarding Titanfall, you have to wonder what people would be saying if the game had flopped.
 
hoyalawya

hoyalawya

Member
Impressive for TItanfall Xbox One to remain at #2. The game seems to have legs. I am on the US East datacenter and I see new players (level 1 gen 1) pretty frequently in campaign mode.
 
R

Raist

Banned
Welp, looks like we can kiss the nordic charts goodbye.

www.gfkhitlist.com/game.aspx

Redirected to a general page, with no replacement link in sight.

Not that anyone really cared anyway

German charts seem to be up.

Something something Elder Scrolls online something, unsurprisingly.
 
S

Syrus

Banned
Rand6 said:
Not really, the game is bundled with the console for free.
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.......this doesn't even make sense. They bought the bundle for titanfall. Otherwise the hundrds of thousands would have bought a FIFA bundle or x1 standalone earlier.

why are people so upset with TF? The game has been brilliant fun way more then the recent CoDs
 
R

Raist

Banned
Syrus said:
.......this doesn't even make sense. They bought the bundle for titanfall. Otherwise the hundrds of thousands would have bought a FIFA bundle or x1 standalone earlier.
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"Hundreds of thousands" heh.

Well, the TF bundle also came with a price cut.
 
Chobel

Chobel

Member
Syrus said:
.......this doesn't even make sense. They bought the bundle for titanfall. Otherwise the hundrds of thousands would have bought a FIFA bundle or x1 standalone earlier.

why are people so upset with TF? The game has been brilliant fun way more then the recent CoDs
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Let's see.

Someone wants Xbone and may or may not want Titanfall, he have two options:
1) The normal SKU
2) Titanfall bundle = The normal SKU and Titanfall

Both sold at the same price ( Titanfall bundle is actually having more discounts and promos).

So, guess which one he will buy.

No one (sane one) is going to buy The normal SKU when he can buy Titanfall bundle for the same (or less) and get Titanfall for free.
 
U

ultratruman

Banned
Syrus said:
.......this doesn't even make sense. They bought the bundle for titanfall. Otherwise the hundrds of thousands would have bought a FIFA bundle or x1 standalone earlier.

why are people so upset with TF? The game has been brilliant fun way more then the recent CoDs
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Not true, most stores only have the Titanfall bundle on offer. I've sold lots of Titanfall Xbox Ones to people with 0 interest in the game.
 
O

*offensive_nickname*

Banned
Chobel said:
Let's see.

Someone wants Xbone and may or may not want Titanfall, he have two options:
1) The normal SKU
2) Titanfall bundle = The normal SKU and Titanfall

Both sold at the same price ( Titanfall bundle is actually having more discounts and promos).

So, guess which one he will buy.

No one (sane one) is going to buy The normal SKU when he can buy Titanfall bundle for the same (or less) and get Titanfall for free.
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3. buy the fifa 14 bundle
4. buy the normal sku at special discount (were in germany got many 2 controller or other retailer bundles)


fifa 14 for xbox one is still in top 15
i hardly doubt most of the games are retail copys and not bundle ones.



ofc there are many reasons, why people bought the titanfall bundle.
all fit in some way.
 
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PhatSaqs

Banned
Syrus said:
.......this doesn't even make sense. They bought the bundle for titanfall. Otherwise the hundrds of thousands would have bought a FIFA bundle or x1 standalone earlier.

why are people so upset with TF?
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I've seen several posts on GAF with peeps saying they'd be happy if TF doesnt do so well for various reasons. Way too many to list but you could search and get a pretty good idea pretty quickly.
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
Raist said:
Welp, looks like we can kiss the nordic charts goodbye.

www.gfkhitlist.com/game.aspx

Redirected to a general page, with no replacement link in sight.

Not that anyone really cared anyway

German charts seem to be up.

Something something Elder Scrolls online something, unsurprisingly.
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Last year we lost Irish and Dutch charts, and now the Nordics too? Well, at least this means less work for me, updating so many charts can be a bit pain in the ass sometimes :p
 
M

Miles Quaritch

Member
The one thing to take away from the TF position is that hardware is selling fairly decently.

I doubt they've bridged the gap though, but it's not unreasonable to assume that it might now be lower than the reported 3:2.
 
S

Syrus

Banned
I don't get the hate. TFhas been the most fun I've had in years. CoD has become trash a d TF is a nice breath of fresh air. The game is brilliantly fun. I think people are more upset they can't play it on their console.

That said I wish it was more optimized and less screen tearing but for what it is its a great game
 
R

Raist

Banned
Bruno MB said:
Last year we lost Irish and Dutch charts, and now the Nordics too? Well, at least this means less work for me, sometimes is a bit pain in the ass to update so many charts :p
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You have it easy man. There were so many more charts back when I was making these threads. I think sometimes we had stuff like Russia or something, too.
I think you should contact GfK and tell them to stop messing around with our weekly euro-entertainment.
 
Chobel

Chobel

Member
*offensive_nickname* said:
3. buy the fifa 14 bundle
4. buy the normal sku at special discount (were in germany got many 2 controller or other retailer bundles)


fifa 14 for xbox one is still in top 15
i hardly doubt most of the games are retail copys and not bundle ones.



ofc there are many reasons, why people bought the titanfall bundle.
all fit in some way.
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3) Titanfall bundle is way more available than FIFA bundle, many store have Titanfall bundle and not the FIFA bundle, also FIFA bundles are leftovers from launch.
4) The same answer as before, Titanfall bundle are everywhere, not so much for special discounted normal SKU. And AFAIK Germany isn't UK.

Both of your options have very small market presence to make any difference.
 
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