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[foxuzamaki]

Alright according to some people at E3 and people who looked at videos, splatoon is keeping a steady 60fps, what im wondering is, how can it keep it when so much stuff is being splattered around the entire arena, there are 8 people firing off loads and loads of ink, which can be stacked ontop of eachother to be thicker I believe and its literally going everywhere. This seems like it would be killer on the performance on the game.

 

[Broken Joystick]

EAD wizards

 

[RoadHazard]

Looks like a pretty simple game to me. It looks good, but not all that demanding.

 

[NIN90]

Sounds lewd.

 

[Ramstein]

EAD wizards

Damnit. I came here to say "Nintendo Magic."

 

[Aaron-Lagann]

It's just manual texture pop-in, not the most demanding of systems.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

The art style. Less demanding textures, if it's vs only no need for complicated ai.

 

[devonodev]

That Nintendo magic. And having small arenas with not much going on in them would help too.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

The graphics aren't amazing. I mean it looks clean and well but the graphics shouldn't be taxing any system which helps keep it at 60

 

[Eusis]

I dunno how does CoD?

Seriously though, CoD has reliably been 60 on somewhat weaker hardware and with seemingly higher quality textures. It shouldn't be that hard for this. The fact it's 8 player is also a significant factor undoubtedly.

 

[R1CHO]

Ink yes, but not in a complex fluid simulation kind of way.

Multiplayer yes, but only 4 vs 4.

Levels are very simple.

 

[NinjamicWZ]

I doubt the ink is actually stacking on top, with what's underneath staying in engine. It's probably overwriting and replacing whatever is underneath as soon as the new stuff is laid down.

 

[Ban Puncher]

Power of the Cloud/Bushes.

 

[Mdk7]

Seriosly, it's such a pleasure to look at (and to play, surely among the top 3 of the E3 for me).
i LOVE 60fps, the main reason why i didn't enjoy the Crucible in Destiny.

 

[Nightengale]

EAD wizards

First post nails it.

Never doubt Nintendo first-party.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Nintendo magic
Not a lot of polygons, just great art direction
Developers who actually give a shit

 

[diamount]

It's nothing special visually speaking? This jerk about 'nintendo magic' is wearing thin.

 

[foxuzamaki]

thanks everyone, I was thinking maybe it was just changes in textures but learning that the ink can be stacked and will have a effect on gameplay plus the ink seemingly being dynamic made me think it was more than just textures changing.

 

[Pikma]

It's nothing special visually speaking? This jerk about 'nintendo magic' is wearing thin.

or maybe it's not, game looks fantastic.

 

[Coolwhip]

It's nothing special visually speaking? This jerk about 'nintendo magic' is wearing thin.

Daww.

And it just splatters 60 frames on screen, ink magic.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

or maybe it's not, game looks fantastic.

It looks great because of the art style and the clean look. The graphics aren't amazing. You can do wonders with that kind of style.

 

[Sparrowhawk]

Nintendo has gotten pretty good at balancing graphics and art style.

 

[Siegcram]

Wii U secret sauce.

 

[wapplew]

Nintendo is underrated on graphical technical department.
They got great tech they just don't brag about it.

 

[diamount]

or maybe it's not, game looks fantastic.

Artistically yes, but technically it's fairy simplistic.

 

[Porcile]

Artistically yes, but technically it's fairy simplistic.

It's a good thing that good art trumps technical every day of the week then

 

[klier]

It's nothing special visually speaking? This jerk about 'nintendo magic' is wearing thin.

Game looks amazing. Whar are you on?

 

[KittenMaster]

The splatters covering everything might be 2D decals placed over the textures kind of like drawing FrankerZ with bullet holes in Half-Life 2. Doesn't mean it looks bad though.

 

[diamount]

It's a good thing that good art trumps technical every day of the week then

Depends what mood I'm in, personally.

Game looks amazing. Whar are you on?

Read up.

 

[Ansatz]

It's nothing special visually speaking? This jerk about 'nintendo magic' is wearing thin.

The proposition taken as a whole is impressive. It's on Wii U, 60 fps, alot of things happening, clean and appealing visuals.

 

[diamount]

The proposition taken as a whole is impressive. It's on Wii U, 60 fps, alot of things happening, clean and appealing visuals.

I agree, Nintendo can mask that stuff extremely well - look forward to Digital Foundry's take on it anyhow.

 

[mintylurb]

The proposition taken as a whole is impressive. It's on Wii U, 60 fps, alot of things happening, clean and appealing visuals.

It doesn't have AA so it's not that clean looking.

 

[klier]

Read up.

Must be the art style, I like it more than most of my PS4 games.

 

[Lernaean]

EAD wizards

This, plus Nintendium and secret sauce.
Just because i feed on salt.

 

[I-hate-u]

Because its muthaflippin' Nintendo son.

 

[Dictator93]

It is just applying deferred decals to things. It is not really technically mpressive, it definitely makes sense that it is running at its frame rate.

 

[foxuzamaki]

It doesn't have AA so it's not that clean looking.

There is clearly some AA being used, some AA doesnt equal it being completely jaggless

 

[Hypron]

It doesn't have AA so it's not that clean looking.

Yup. Most nintendo games on Wii U lack AA actually, they'd look a lot cleaner if they had some.

 

[Phediuk]

Levels all looked very simple in terms of geometry, and pretty small compared to other shooters. Nothing complex going on in the backgrounds (i.e., minimal draw distance.) Only a few characters onscreen at a time. Seems to be minimal dynamic elements in levels other than the players.

Not too hard to see how it can hit 60fps.

 

[Frodo]

I don't understand the posts that try to diminish their achievement saying things like "it is not technically impressive, it is just their art style". Well, if they can make a game look good and not be demanding to the hardware at the same time, kudos to them, right? It is an achievement on its own being able to use your resources effectively.

 

[Radec]

Nothing technically demanding running in the game really. Hence the framerate got no rival on the resources.

 

[ymmv]

I don't see why Splatoon is a technical achievement. De Blob also had paint mechanics - on the Wii.

 

[Jintor]

It doesn't look like it's crazy fluid dynamics or anything, from a casual glance.

 

[GrotesqueBeauty]

It's powered by GAF's nonchalance, which as you can see by the responses in this thread is an inexhaustible well.

 

[paradise_circus]

I don't see why Splatoon is a technical achievement. De Blob also had paint mechanics - on the Wii.

the 60fps talk is getting out of hands

 

[Phediuk]

I don't understand the posts that try to diminish their achievement saying things like "it is not technically impressive, it is just their art style". Well, if they can make a game look good and not be demanding to the hardware at the same time, kudos to them, right? It is an achievement on its own being able to use your resources effectively.

Thread title: So how does Splatoon keep its 60fps?


It's almost like people are trying to give more nuanced answers to that question than "THAT NINTENDO MAGIC!!!"

 

[Hermii]

The graphics arent crazy, and the Wii U is actually a bit more powerfull than last gen.

 

[Psykotik]

nintendo.

 

[Darklord]

The graphics are pretty simple on a technical level. The art makes it nice.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

It's a good thing that good art trumps technical every day of the week then

However great art + technical is a sight to behold. Watchdogs failed in that in my opinion. It must be technical because something is eating up power but it doesn't really look like it's all worth it.