The U version is gonna need a colossal amount of content for me not to curse the 3ds version existing. To Sakurai's credit, I trust he can deliver. So long as the console version truly feels a league above Brawl on its own (as opposed to feel like half of a complete package) I'll be happy.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 9: F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5
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What's the trophy in the picture?
IntelliHeath
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Gogoat from Pokemon (6th generation pokemon)
Gogoat?
On the Zelda pic, the bottom screen shows "Defeat a Single opponent", I hope this means that there are some random win conditions thrown in for good measure, kinda like the event matches from Melee
nah, nintendo still has a million characters they can choose from
There are plenty of playable characters to choose from, especially from franchises that don't even have a playable rep yet.
Saying that they're blowing their load with the current amount of newcomers is a massive over statement if you ask me.
Red Arremer
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I really don't think Nintendo will buy Capcom, lol. That's just a pipe dream in the making. And even if they did, I doubt we'd get Resident Evil of all things.
While it's true that Smash 5 is lacking any "heavy hitters" right now, we don't know what the next years will bring. Splatoon, Codename Steam, and the 2 new IPs Miyamoto is working on surely will be solid sources for new characters, especially if they take off as popular. We might also get characters that missed the boat this time around, or characters that are (re-)introduced to an older series and would require reevaluation of their place in that universe (e.g. Impa, who has been of increasing importance in the latest 2 Zelda titles), just like Rosalina.
There's also a multitude of B-list series that don't have a playable character yet, like Advance Wars, Stafy, etc.
SoldnerKei
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and Vergil pls, so we can get motivated
IntelliHeath
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Pretty much this. I'm pretty sure that few characters from Assist Trophies would become playable characters, and Takamaru too.
The closest compromise I can think of: The very first thing you see when booting up the game for the first time is this:
"Do you want to start the game with all character unlocked, or do you want to unlock them yourself? Warning! Once you decide you cannot go back!"
Also there' still tons of characters for a next Smash if we assume the leak has the final newcomer list, on top of my head:
Wonder Red
Isaac
Ridley
Takamaru
Lip
Inkling
Dillon
Pushmo/Crashmo dude
Duck Hunt Dog
Plus lots of characters with already represented franchises like Mother, F-Zero, Metroid, Mario, More Pokemon, etc.
Super Smash Bros 5: Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series
Red Arremer
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To be honest, aside from the 2 third party characters, even the newcomers in Smash 4 aren't super popular. We're already at the point where Sakurai has to look at B-listers because all the top tier popularity characters are gone.
Instead of iconic characters, we're down to recognizable characters. Already were to some degree in Brawl. Will be even more evident in Smash 5, especially if we don't get Sonic, Mega Man or Pac-Man back. And I do hope they're here to stay in the series forever.
Instead of iconic characters, we're down to recognizable characters. Already were to some degree in Brawl. Will be even more evident in Smash 5, especially if we don't get Sonic, Mega Man or Pac-Man back. And I do hope they're here to stay in the series forever.
PadWarrior
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Mac and greninja seem popular.
JB-the-Hunter
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I was only being half-serious guys...
But GAF told me Rosalina is Nintendo's Lightning!
Still hoping to have Lip some day as I'm replaying Panel de Pon frequently.
Oh and Wii Fit Trainer is popular too, by game sold
IntelliHeath
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I'm more likely to be retired from gaming by time next generation Smash announced. I think i'm going to enjoy this generation much as I can before I get retired.
peanutbutterlatte
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The Villager's franchise is bigger than Star Fox, Mother, or Fire Emblem could ever hope to be.
I'll be playing SSB5 with my son/daughter... :O
Me too, but I see it more as 'deafeat the enemy team' or 'defeat all the yoshis' or something. Who knows. Maybe we'll get some new interesting conditions, too. (Race to the finish!)
While that's true, user-created characters will never have as much... character... as established, created ones.
Red Arremer
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They're definitely not on par with Mario, Link or Pikachu, or even Meta Knight and Fox. Greninja in particular is a super new character, he hasn't had the chance yet to become what I consider iconic. Though with his Smash inclusion, he likely will be the face of the most recent Pokemon.
Little Mac though? A lot of die-hard Nintendo fans know him of course, but I would guarantee you that the best you can get from people who didn't play Punch-Out is to get them to say "Oh it's the guy from that boxing game". I definitely do not consider him nearly as popular as most of the other characters in the roster, heck I think more people would know Rosalina over Mac (despite her recency).
Oh and Wii Fit Trainer is popular too, by game sold
The character herself is not particularly popular, even though her games sold a ton.
Oh right! I totally forgot about Villager, haha. My bad. Yeah, okay. He is basically that new IP that has taken off since Brawl, essentially. It already was popular with Brawl, but he's definitely the sole 1st party heavy hitter that Nintendo has to offer right now.
Shadow Hog
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This is not a compliment.
Mac's pretty much the definition of B-tier character. Not super popular in Japan, from a series that's been on hiatus for a while before getting a modestly performing reboot and then back into the vault. Greninja's a different case since he's got an active multimedia franchise backing him, but Mac's pretty close to scraping the barrel.
peanutbutterlatte
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He's "scraping the barrel" in the same way Ice Climbers or Pit were though. His relative obscurity is sort of part of the point.
Seriously, this is a huge concern for me. Has anyone else thought about how playable character DLC could work for Smash Bros.? Maybe there's an obvious solution that I'm missing, but I'm afraid DLC would be a mess unless it was a mandatory free update.
Megidolaon
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it's too bad the Mii customization isn't a little more fleshed out. Cause it has amazing potential to create any character you want. I love making them, but the options are a little too limited as far as hair style/color.
Pacman is awesome. Can't wait for the Pacman arcadde stage inevitably.
Palutena wasn't expecting her. That anime trailer was pretty awesome.
Pacman is awesome. Can't wait for the Pacman arcadde stage inevitably.
Palutena wasn't expecting her. That anime trailer was pretty awesome.
Releasing it on 3DS first gets the Wii U folks to pick it up "in the meantime". It seems like there are lots of people who, given the choice between the two releasing at the same time, would stick with just one version.
When I first heard there were going to be two versions of the game, I remember thinking to myself that I'll likely decide to get the Wii U one. Now that the 3DS version is out significantly earlier, I will be getting that as well. That's not the ONLY reason, since the 3DS-only features like Smash Run that have been announced along with it look pretty cool, but I can't deny the release date is having an influence on my decision.
Which is fine, but he's not a popular choice outside of certain sects of the fanbase. I personally love that he gets to be in as (at least partial) retro representation.
I know, that mean Nintendo is throwing her into every game.
Red Arremer
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I don't think there is going to be an issue. It never has been - it's mostly an administrative issue. Just release a patch for Smash Bros. that adds the data required for the character, and you buy access to it. Otherwise, you can play against people with that character, but not use the character itself.
Wario is in Brawl. He has not been confirmed for Smash 4 yet, but it's very likely that he will return (like, 99.9% likely).
IntelliHeath
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Well, there are free DLC updates for Mario Golf for people who are not interested in buying those new characters, so they can play against players who want to use DLC characters and courses, right?
If I'm right then I could imagine that it would be good for Smash Bros fan bases if they are not interested to buying DLC characters.
Well, we know who Game Freak's Lightning is.
But don't people like Charizard?
ShockingAlberto
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Every other fighting game does it as on-disc or mandatory free updates.
If Nintendo wants to make a fighting game with DLC, they have to do that. There's no other option.
Well, we know who Game Freak's Lightning is.
Greninja fighting Lucario to take that spot soon
After hearing a bit about the development behind Greninja in Smash (and in Pokemon for that matter), I like the character choice a lot more.
IntelliHeath
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I don't know who told you that but Wario definitely is in Brawl, and will return to Smash 4 for sure as well.
It's different in America. The Punch-Out theme plays at NBA games. The arcade original was the focus of an episode of The Goldbergs. And in my group of friends -- guys and girls who don't play or follow games -- nearly everyone recognized Little Mac when I showed them parts of the April Direct. They were excited -- they've played the Wii version at house parties and they remember him from their days casually playing the NES game. He's something of a pop culture icon here in the U.S., even if he's not always one people identify by name.
Scooter155
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Get out.
People like Rosalina too.
Scooter155
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What does knowing the lineup have to do with unlocking the characters?
Since XY, its been heavily promoted and just seen everywhere. It got the spotlight in Origins and now its in ORAS for some reason. And its its own character in Smash too.
Too much Charizard.
Greninja would win every time. Sorry Goku.Greninja fighting Lucario to take that spot soon
I'd make a point that you've got a bit of a biased audience having had a decent amount of experience with the series - but also coming from America I feel I can safely say that he's not as much of an icon as you're making him out to me. Nobody I know outside of my immediately family knows him or has any familiarity with the series. He'd probably be completely unknown to the public if not for some loose ties to Mike Tyson.
I've also never heard the Punch-Out theme at an NBA game.
I've heard lapsed/non-gamers refer to "Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!" on a few occasions. It's just one of those games that stuck with people who are now in their twenties and thirties. Little Mac's been near the top of American Smash Bros. request lists since Melee, and I'm elated that he's finally playable. I don't consider him an "A-lister," but his inclusion really helps legitimize the Smash Bros. roster. Why shouldn't Nintendo's most famous fighter be in a Nintendo fighting game?
balladofwindfishes
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The whole Mega evolution push is just ridiculous. Its a whole new level of promotion.
Lord_Byron28
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Meh. Villager, Mii and Wii Fit Trainer represent franchises that are/were incredibly popular. Rosalina, Greninja and Palutena are fan favorites. Little Mac is a niche retro character but there have been plenty of those kind of characters since 64. I don't think a lot of people knew who Captain Falcon and Ness were before 64. Melee had Roy, Marth, Ice Climbers, and Mr. Game and Watch. Brawl had ROB, Pit, and Ike.
I think 5 has a few good choices to pick from and who knows what kind of games will be released and/or popular then:
Inkling
Captain Toad
Impa
Tingle
Ridley
Dixie Kong
Cranky Kong
Takamaru
Balloon Fighters
Mach Rider
Hyperactivity
Banned
Give me a second to figure this out
Brawl in 2008, Melee in 2001, Smash4 in 2014
So 6-7 years if they keep it up
HAHAHA, Fuck yeah I'm still in prime gaming age (actually will have entered it)
I'll enjoy playing Woder Red in this glorious new world where HEnry from Fire Emblem Awakening is playable
Isaac will be in, as will Shulk
Nintendo will have bought Capcom, Konami, Namco-Bandai, Square Enix, etc. and ALL of our favorite characters will be in
Sakurai will still be alive, we will all understand Iwata while we are in the middle of the next gen
Charizard will be crappy once more and stuck in NNU as I laugh in glee and praise Gamefreak.
And Red still won't appear in his Final Smash.
All of this in Smash5.
When he gets promoted everywhere, when canons are changed around him, when STEVEN FUCKING STONE has a MEGA CHARIZARD X and no MEga METAGROSS OR AGGRON, it doesn't even matter if you like the worst final evolution of the Kanto starters, he qualifies as a Lightning.
Cynthia doesn't have shit on Charizard
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