Same here, I mean the games not even out yet and they're already wishing ill thoughts for it.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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Most of them have already "invalidated" the game and have issued an ultimatum - if the game isn't fixed, they're probably not going to play it.
As I've said before, Sakurai is going to make the game that he wants, and I truly doubt he's going to alter the game based on what the community wants. As a result, I don't see the game mechanics changing drastically before launch.
The momentum behind Melee is real. Smash 4 will be big early on, and it will likely be at EVO 2015 because it will be new and people will still be figuring out new things, but what happens after that? If the PM and Melee players fail to get on board, and the Melee scene continues to grow, what happens to Smash 4? Does it fall off into irrelevancy within the competitive scene just like Brawl? Does Nintendo start banning Melee from appearing at tournaments they've sponsored just so Smash 4 will get promoted?
If Smash 4 doesn't change, things could get messy.
or maybe it's posts like these that make them put you on ignore
I get the feeling there is going to be a shit storm next year when Smash 4 takes Melee's spot at Evo. I'm talking Smash Wars Episode V: Sakurai Strikes Back.
I hope everyone is mature enough to give Smash 4 at least a fucking year, even if it's worse than Brawl from a competitive stand point. Shitting on the game at launch and not showing up to tournaments/Evo, dooming the game from the start just because it's not as good as Melee would be a damn shame.
Save us Prog
I hope everyone is mature enough to give Smash 4 at least a fucking year, even if it's worse than Brawl from a competitive stand point. Shitting on the game at launch and not showing up to tournaments/Evo, dooming the game from the start just because it's not as good as Melee would be a damn shame.
Save us Prog
I don't really think a semi-clone would have worked. She has tons of unique moves and abilities that really deserve a unique character.
Why show up to tournaments for a game you don't like?
ShockingAlberto
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balladofwindfishes
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I thought Roy's hit box was broken or something and it was closer to the hilt?
SliceSabre
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Why would you not want to see Kirby with her hair?Forget the hair, just give her the mask
What is Kirby not allowed to want to look questionably beautiful?
But how can we decide if Donkey Kong comes from "Mario"? Since DK appeared first on the game called "Donkey Kong", as also "Jumpman" a.k.a Mario. Which character should be an extension of who?
They've played it, hence the ill thoughts. I can assure you that if the game's controls and movement mechanics had more options then everyone would be on board.
wow
He was crying about Sentinel on day one so hard. Calling him super broken, ruining the game, etc. I think his Wolverine team was built around stopping Sentinel.
He discovered instant overheads, Wolvie/Akuma mixups, and the rest is history. Sentinel ended up being ASS.
MvC2 died because it was unbalanced. A better, more balanced game replaced it. That's the nature of the fighting game scene. If a more viable (aka fun, and fair) game surfaces within the same franchise, it takes the older ones place.
Can't have both? Still I hope smash 4 makes a great first impression.
I think it's an honest question, and it will be interesting to see how the dynamic plays out between Melee and Smash 4 in the competitive community, especially if Smash 4 hasn't changed significantly from the build that everyone played at E3.
ShockingAlberto
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Wong is incredibly reactionary to any change.
Remember "The worst character in the game is Adon by far, there's nothing redeeming about him" shortly before his loss to Gamerbee a few months later?
theprodigy
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link is broken
balladofwindfishes
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Think of Kirby to Jiggly in 64. Mostly cloned regular attacks, unique specials and a few others. Not really a clone, but they share a lot of moves.
Like Samus' smash attacks would be fine for her (modified for phazon and not fire), but all her specials would need to be unique.
.......I find Kirby with hair creepy, okay >.>
Distresssss
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No. Let's just fragment the community. Smash 4 will be new and popular and have a lot of players for that reason.
Let close minded people stick with melee and they can watch the game die.
I was involved with the competitive Halo scene for a long time and it's exactly what happened to Halo.
hydragonwarrior
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Uh, if the game is inferior to Melee, then it's probably not worth having it played at Evo. Pretty much why Brawl was cast to the winds.
ShockingAlberto
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Mr. Smiley
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I'm not saying that in a mean way. It's just natural with just about anything where a group of people are good at something. It's frustrating when an old approach doesn't work, and sometimes it's simpler to revert to what has already been mastered. I'm not saying this is the attitude all of them would take, or any individual in particular. I just suspect it will occur, in some capacity, with some of them.
theprodigy
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Halo died because it was overly dependent on MLG, in addition to lolHalo4
This looks awesome, any chance you could send me the HR version?
And weighing in on the Mario representative debate. Wario, Yoshi, and Donkey Kong are a part of the greater Mario IP universe true. However, I think the only one you can make a fair argument for that banner is Yoshi, because he appears in the mainline Mario games on a semi-consistent basis. As far as I know, Wario only has only been featured in the DS remake of Mario 64, even though he featured as the boss of Mario: Six Golden Coins and Wario's Woods. Donkey Kong only appears in side-games like Kart, Party, and sports titles, same as Wario and Yoshi. Wario had his -world series for a while but now seems more focused in the Warioware collection. and Yoshi of course has the Island series, but since he's a featured role in most Mario games, I'm more inclined to agree he's with the other five.
My basic Representative breakdown is this;
Mario - Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Rosalina (Yoshi?)
Wario - Wario
Donkey Kong - Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong
Yoshi - Yoshi
Fixed. Lol tinypic
I'm glad to see I've changed your mind!
I don't care honestly, as long as I stay unbanned and allowed to say that I'm still worried about the game every now and then (until the time comes, if it ever does, when new footage/impressions make the game look better) amidst the constant inane hype then I'm fine.
Oh god, now I hope the game does suck, if it turned out all of my fears were addressed I'd have a bunch of people saying "TOLD YOU SO, YOU'RE SO DUMB FOR DOUBTING LORD SAKURAI" even though nothing in pre-release content suggests that changes like that would be made.
Yes, that was sarcasm before more of you add me to the hungrybox list
ShockingAlberto
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Do you need a cross to crawl up on or have you supplied your own
Vanilla Marvel vs Capcom 3 is hilariously unbalanced. If Ultimate never came out, it would have died in only a few years.
Ultimate's still ridiculously unbalanced, but nowhere near vanilla.
HawthorneKitty
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It was a fucking demo.
Muchas gracias! Tis my work background now.
Well, I am speaking of Ultimate. It wasn't really that much time between vanilla MvC3 and Ultimate, anyway. Everyone was very excited, regardless of the eventual unbalance 3 had, and we were happy when Ultimate addressed alot of that.
And Ultimate has way more viable characters than MvC2 has.
PPMD summed it up succinctly - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIcb25IM8Zc&list=UU5WNBHwgluAwWJE5QV-5_TA#t=121
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
No problem. That's what we could offered after all things you have been done for us and Smash Community!
I'm not entirely sure about the hitboxes but that sounds plausible.
Fighting games always have an incredibly rough transition period.
The Smash Community is also one of the loudest and most pessimistic in the FGC.
Smash 4 is going to have the same problem MvC2 had, except people will be a lot louder about it.
Eeeeeeeehhhhh I don't know about that one. They're equally unbalanced if anything. Ultimate made the ensemble of the cast better as a whole, but in tourneys you still see mostly the same pool of 10 characters over and over.
EmCeeGramr
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let's stop this now
unless you think beelzebufo really needs a friend to keep him company
unless you think beelzebufo really needs a friend to keep him company
OricWindstar
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Looks great! I keep forgetting how awesome new Final Destination looks.
I don't think so. If the changes are made, the game will catch on like wildfire. Sure, some will still play Melee, but most will migrate over.
It will be the Counter-Strike: Global Offensive of the Smash franchise.
Distresssss
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This is a thread of Lucina.
Demo was better than Melee.
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