You don't need to be good at the game to play Lucina well because she doesn't reward proper spacing.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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You don't need to be good at the game to play Lucina well because she doesn't reward proper spacing.
That's a really needlessly hateful thing to say. Sometimes I'm just as dissapointed by this community as I am inspired by it.
It wouldn't surprise me if some of the pro Melee players, having so much of their ego wrapped up in their success, would be quick to dismiss SSB4 if they're not immediately "the best" at it. Rather than learning a new game and its intricacies so they can consistently beat others, they may try to invalidate the game so that Melee is considered most legit. "Blame the game, not the player," etc.
Hungrybox is the best Jigglypuff player in the world. Kinda weird that you wouldn't accept a serious opinion from him because of a comment like that.
PadWarrior
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Agreed. Good thing I don't take what they say at any value.
OricWindstar
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Fortunately, it seems like Nintendo is positioning itself to support Smash 4's competitive scene, so hopefully both communities learn to play nicely.
RomanceDawn
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Seriously when the game is out and he is giving impressions what am I supposed to think? I mean why would anyone say that? What does he have to gain if the new smash is no good competitively? Melee never goes away?
JB-the-Hunter
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Adam Malkovich, although that wouldn't go over well with a lot of people.
Who would actively desire a new game in a series they claim to love so much to suck? Especially considering all that has been shown to us by it's creator, who is actively trying to make something like that not happen?
At this point, you'd have to take a look at yourself. Something ain't right.
At this point, you'd have to take a look at yourself. Something ain't right.
PadWarrior
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I don't value any of their opinions. As long as I enjoy the game that's all that matters
If I understand correctly, ShockingAlberto is taking issue with someone actively hoping SSB4 will be bad, which would be a bizarre thing to "hope" for any game, released or unreleased. That suggests the person is not willing to give the game a fair shake beyond their limited time playing it so far, and suggests a desire for the game they've already mastered to stay in vogue because they're already good at it.
ShockingAlberto
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You can think it's as weird as you like, it's a perfectly logical stance to take.
Considering that Mew2King is one of the best Brawl players and hates the game, I don't think it has anything to do with their actual success.
I can understand that desire. He enjoys Melee and doesn't want to see it diminish like Marvel vs Capcom 2 did with MvC3's release.
I don't agree with it, because I think people are taking precautions so that Melee doesn't die with Smash 4's release, but I understand it.
Yep, DK is more of his own thing. I feel the same about Wario (if we're talkin' Wario Ware). Only series I feel that is an extension of the Mario series is Yoshi's Island.
OricWindstar
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I will play devil's advocate here and say that this is a one sentence Reddit post we're judging the guy on. Maybe he means he doesn't want it to succeed competitively because that will damage the competitive scene of Melee, maybe something else. So, I'm not going to write him off just because of this.
Could you make a version of this without the Smash Bros logo?
JB-the-Hunter
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I don't think he wants it to suck anymore. He said that a while ago, before the invitational was even announced. With all the support Nintendo is giving the competitive scene, anybody who wants Smash 4 to suck is out of their mind.
Lucina's Nair implies she's closer to Brawl/Melee Marth compared to SSB4 Marth, who according to Ken was nerfed. Unless Marth has been buffed by then, Ken probably just wants something a bit more familiar.
Granted, there really isn't enough to go by in terms of footage for Lucina, but I really do hope Lucina is more of a "Falco"-kind of clone.
But he said he wanted the game to suck without any actual clarification or indication that it could have been a joke!
His opinions from now on are worthless. worthless!
shaowebb
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Is he still involved in the Air Dash Online game project? It shut down to restructure based on feedback when the kickstarter flopped. The demo though...TONS of potential.
PadWarrior
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This is one of the many reasons why I have no interest in "competitive" smash
ShockingAlberto
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Ah, "it was probably a joke," the last defense of the truly desperate.
Didn't Prog say that NoA reached out to him a while ago about participants? In hindsight, I could see the post being a red herring, would be a bit hard to believe he'd one day say "I HOPE SMASH SUCKS" then the next day "Oh, btw I'm playing Smash 4 at e3, gonna love it"
I love it though.I suspect it may be true for some of them, though.
theprodigy
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too late, speculation has already ran over here!
superNESjoe
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I'm amazed you came up with this definitive ruling considering not a single person has played this character alongside others in the final game.
Melee wouldn't go away, yes, but if it loses the limelight then his skills do as well. Pretty selfish remarks if people say they want Smash 4 to "suck" just so Melee is the "best."
balladofwindfishes
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The tip of his sword does more damage and knock back, so you have to balance between medium sword hits to combo, and using the tip to do more damage and kill.
Lucina does damage on her entire sword, so the advanced combo techniques of Marth aren't possible.
And Roy is crazy bananas with doing the most damage on the hilt of the sword or some ridiculous nonsense like that.
ShockingAlberto
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If you've taken offense at anything I've said, remember, it could be a joke.
There is truth to this, but a lot of it really does have to do with the game. I remember this happening when MVC3 came out, (lol I remember Wong's reaction on the first day..."back to mvc2!!), but after a while the game just refused to let up, and even many MvC2 vets started coming around.
There's still plenty of people that dislike MvC3 and stick with 2, but after it all leveled out, most realized it was an exciting game in the same vein.
I don't think of Smash in the same way I do other fighting games, the sequels are just always better to me, but there is a bigger reason why games like Brawl didn't live up to competitive standards rather than vets just saying "fuck this I don't want to learn it." Although that is naturally a factor.
People in this thread will jump on anything that confirms their negative beliefs about the competitive fanbase, we've not seen the end of that one sentence in a reddit post.
akidnamededdy
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He already shows up when Samus uses her final smash. 50% chance of him not authorizing her to use it and the move failing.
/jokes
Love it. Palutena's spot is just so...perfect.
Distresssss
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Actually I don't think I'm a Hbox supporter anymore after reading that.
Such a childish thing to say.
Such a childish thing to say.
ShockingAlberto
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If that were true, people would be quoting you a lot more.
The tip of marths blade does increased damage and knockback whereas the rest of the blade is much weaker.
For lucina it doesn't matter what part of the blade you hit with, the effect is always the same.
SliceSabre
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Kirby better get Lucina's long, flowing hair when he takes her power.
Mr. Smiley
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Guys
Lets settle down
This was 5 months ago. 4 months before the tournament. It's entirely possible he's changed his stance after seeing how involved Nintendo is trying with the community.
Lets settle down
This was 5 months ago. 4 months before the tournament. It's entirely possible he's changed his stance after seeing how involved Nintendo is trying with the community.
balladofwindfishes
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Dark Samus is Metroid's only real chance at a new comer and that's not possible this game.
It seems DS has a bunch of cool moves as an assist trophy too... I would have liked a semi-clone of Samus with some of the moves from her AT.
theprodigy
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haha he would say that at first
Roy's sword does a lot of damage at the center. Only problem is Roy is a lot slower and has no real approach to allow his gimmick to work reliably.
The gimmick works for Marth because he can play fast and space well.
They would be if they hadn't already put me on ignore for daring to criticize anything whilst in their precious hugbox.
No cynicism allowed in a family-friendly thread such as this!
Here it is.
I screwed up Capt. Falcon's foot after removing the logo. Let me fix that.
ShockingAlberto
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You're the true hero here!
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