PotionBleue
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Well, that's what you just did though. Expect a Kotaku article within the hour.
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Well, that's what you just did though. Expect a Kotaku article within the hour.
Im_So_Pringles
Member
So, anybody else think that Cosmo is going to spearhead a mass exodus from Twitch to Hitbox soon? Or am I the only one?
I hope it happens, actually
He's been posting about it and seems curious for sure. He said he's considering leaving Twitch. Maybe he'll do some sort of test stream and see how it goes.
Here I thought it was just the music issue but no... there's something more serious. Twitch is also getting rid of past broadcasts and they can no longer be saved forever? Welp... here I go making 2 hour chunk highlights for all my streaming broadcasts... this'll take awhile.
BumblebeeCody
Member
Sad times we're in.
lostsupper
Banned
A GAFfer just used the word faggot in his post. I hope that's not representative of the rest of the members.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
You have to enable it on the dashboard for now but it holds your preference there.
ChrisMahoney
Banned
I never read anything about Twitch getting rid of past broadcasts.
Does Hithox automatically save past broadcasts?
He was responding. Hell, you just used the word faggot. I hope that doesn't represent the rest of Gaf. Get a grip.
DigitalRicket
Member
Hitbox sounds so tempting to switch however the audience at the moment is currently at Twitch. Even when you spread the numbers it's at what: 10000 to 1 per viewers in terms of Twitch vs Hitbox?
I can see the clear benefits of the up and comer Hitbox but that's like saying you're going to get a huge viewership on Vimeo instead of Youtube. Yes, there are downsides but in the end the audience will not move over in a mass exodus... at least not any time soon.
Let's see if the changes make affect how people stream and archive their VOD's.
I can see the clear benefits of the up and comer Hitbox but that's like saying you're going to get a huge viewership on Vimeo instead of Youtube. Yes, there are downsides but in the end the audience will not move over in a mass exodus... at least not any time soon.
Let's see if the changes make affect how people stream and archive their VOD's.
They are going to only be keeping VODs for a few weeks from now on, and will start to delete old videos in 3 weeks time. Highlights will be kept for eternity.
DigitalRicket
Member
If it affects them then they will leave. But don't you think that Twitch might make exceptions for some of these HUGE streamers? I would assume so.
And just because someone leaves doesn't mean all will depart. That just means the next speedrunner down will get a larger audience from the departure of the former.
Valkerionseven
Member
Did you guys even read my other post? It's not that he simply used the word faggot, it's that he used it in a negative way. As if its connotations were something to run away from.
Surely you recognize the difference between an employee of a company and a poster on a forum. He represents his company and follows their guidelines. He should be an example. I'm not being paid to post here, and I don't represent the site in any way. (PM me anytime EviLore and we can talk.)
I explained my stance. If you choose to mock me instead of arguing with that, go for it.
Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss this further. I don't want to harp on it in this thread anymore.
Mr. Luchador
Member
I just ran a solid 90 minute stream at 3k with no dropped frames @720p. Seems like a legit service, we all should have listened to Golem!
JehutyRunner
Banned
PotionBleue
Member
Haha. They sure are enjoying the spotlights. I hope they will be able to handle the incoming surge of new members because it looks promising.
How does the ad system work? I haven't had time to watch much the streams, but I've already seen multiple 30-second clips. Is it just because I watched partnered streams with monetization enabled? Do streams from non-partners have less ads?
Hey man, they're not wrong. Switching has been a blast even though there's only a fraction of the user base on it.
AwayFromInfinityx
Member
Testing it out again Playing batman: Arkham Origins.
http://www.hitbox.tv/phantomgenius
Seems Smooth
http://www.hitbox.tv/phantomgenius
Seems Smooth
Like silky.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
Well I haven't done any serious streaming yet just some test here and there on Twitch but I already decided that if I ever decided yo get serious about streaming it will be on Hitbox.tv
Yeah wait until they see Twitch levels of traffic and have to scale way up... and get the attention of major music labels, etc.
Everyone is ignoring that Twitch does have reasons to do many of the things they've done over the last year. Otherwise, why would they do it? ContenID in particular.. costs them loads of money to do it...
Same with Google and YouTube. YouTube was losing tons of money and embroiling Google in lawsuits (some they won, but still costly).. and Google found themselves with content that appealed to advertisers for the very companies that cared about the potential copyright violations of the content.
The same is true of video game streaming. What are the crossover industries? Music, movies, etc. Entertainment industry likes to advertise over entertainment, and they care about copyrights.
Something like Hitbox.tv could end up being slapped with a bunch of lawsuits and shutting down, then where are you left?
And you think this site will have no delay in streaming if their traffic gets too high?
Just playing a bit of devil's advocate here... I think people expect unrealistic things from internet services. They often start off by losing loads of money and have to figure out how to profit eventually. And consumers couldn't be much more hostile about it.
Everyone is ignoring that Twitch does have reasons to do many of the things they've done over the last year. Otherwise, why would they do it? ContenID in particular.. costs them loads of money to do it...
Same with Google and YouTube. YouTube was losing tons of money and embroiling Google in lawsuits (some they won, but still costly).. and Google found themselves with content that appealed to advertisers for the very companies that cared about the potential copyright violations of the content.
The same is true of video game streaming. What are the crossover industries? Music, movies, etc. Entertainment industry likes to advertise over entertainment, and they care about copyrights.
Something like Hitbox.tv could end up being slapped with a bunch of lawsuits and shutting down, then where are you left?
And you think this site will have no delay in streaming if their traffic gets too high?
Just playing a bit of devil's advocate here... I think people expect unrealistic things from internet services. They often start off by losing loads of money and have to figure out how to profit eventually. And consumers couldn't be much more hostile about it.
almostheathen
Member
what is up famous?
DigitalRicket
Member
THIS. Twitch is self-policing to cut down costs since they have been growing exponentially in such a short time. The Google acquisition might have not happened for all we know, but I'm sure they will definitely get some more money from another source soon. They are streamlining, and of course cutting services back that are FREE to give themselves some wiggle room. They can't make money by continually saving and hosting thousands, if not, millions of hours of on demand video for free (most of which is not even from partners or good streamers).
As for the content ID issue, there probably have been lots of behind the scenes problems with labels and publishers who want a slice of the pie. Maybe they should strike a deal with these publishers to make sure they are getting something for people playing their products on air. Streaming is such a legal grey area and Twitch has gotten too big for its own good in such a fast time. This is to cover their butts in case something huge happens I'm assuming, or for any potential buyers who don't want to acquire a legal mess.
KojiKnight
Member
If hitbox makes it big in the next couple years, I'll look forward to the sequel to this thread complaining about all of it's new content ID/storage policies as well.
This is just the reality of the business, you either are going to be moving around a lot to outrun the big companies wanting their (fair) share of the pie, or you find the service that offers you the best compromise between quality/service/audience/etc.
This is just the reality of the business, you either are going to be moving around a lot to outrun the big companies wanting their (fair) share of the pie, or you find the service that offers you the best compromise between quality/service/audience/etc.
Does hitbox have 60fps support? I know twitch does actually. I was very surprised to see that. (I streamed 1280x720 at 60fps just to test it out, not for normal streaming).
Also that forced ads, yeah, I guess hitbox gotta get something for their servers. I just think there are better ways around it.
Also that forced ads, yeah, I guess hitbox gotta get something for their servers. I just think there are better ways around it.
Testing it out man! It looks so good that the video doesn't even seem compressed.
SerTapTap
Member
Can anyone that's got a dedicated youtube user base comment on your experience drawing viewers to Twitch vs Hitbox? I have 6000 subs on Youtube, about 300 views on an average video on a week (subs really don't mean much anymore), and a paltry 100 followers on Twitch. I haaate switching platforms and it seems drawing people from one site to another has a pathetically low conversion rate. Couple this with Twitch having low discoverability for small channels and it's been very frustrating.
If I try to move to Hitbox is it going to be the same except even worse because less people have hitbox accounts? I'm not attached to twitch, but rebuilding my viewer base is tiresome and if in general people are less willing to hop from Youtube to Hitbox that'd be interesting to know.
I do think the lack of stream lag will be a big plus though. It was a big factor in why I took an extremely long hiatus from streaming on Twitch. Any chat interaction had to be ancillary to what's currently happening in-game.
If I try to move to Hitbox is it going to be the same except even worse because less people have hitbox accounts? I'm not attached to twitch, but rebuilding my viewer base is tiresome and if in general people are less willing to hop from Youtube to Hitbox that'd be interesting to know.
I do think the lack of stream lag will be a big plus though. It was a big factor in why I took an extremely long hiatus from streaming on Twitch. Any chat interaction had to be ancillary to what's currently happening in-game.
Didn't look like there was a NeoGAF team so I went ahead and made one. If you want to join, just reply to this post with your Hitbox username. If you've got a 2000x400 image we can use as a cover that would be nice too!
http://www.hitbox.tv/team/neogaf
http://www.hitbox.tv/team/neogaf
Not sure man spooky was still going hard last night
You're not allowed to make a team that uses the name neogaf, simply because of the chance of generating revenue while using that name. This is coming from someone who's been in contact with Bishoptl regarding a possible Twitch team
My Hitbox username: sYkoDe4d
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The Everyman
that's a pretty douchey blog post. im turned off of hitbox.
You're not allowed to make a team that uses the name neogaf, simply because of the chance of generating revenue while using that name. This is coming from someone who's been in contact with Bishoptl regarding a possible Twitch team
Oh crap, I did not know that. I'll definitely be changing that then. Is it the name "NeoGAF" or anything that's similar or tied to this website? What about something like GAF Hitbox Team?
SerTapTap
Member
FGC is a tricky one. Big events will probably stay. Not sure if regulars will want to stream on Hitbox when Evo, Capcomfighters etc will 95% probably be on Twitch.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Username is "Coldman".