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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo

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Booshka

Member
Devin Olsen said:
Fuck you 343 for thinking it was ok to release this game.

I've had to quit to dashboard because the game completely crashed/locked up, SIX times today. I didn't even play that much, I played halo CE Customs (because lol match making) and during games/while setting up games it would crash.

Just now I got into my SECOND match making game ever (hAd the game for two full days and have been trying to play MM since) I got into a 6v4 game on bloodline and the game crashed trying to load the carnage report.

Do you want to take a guess how many times the game crashed during my COUNTLESS hours of Halo:CE, Halo PC, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo: Reach and Halo 4? ZERO. Quite literally zero. Never ever ever have I had to quit a game or be kicked from a game of halo because the game crashed, yet here I am on day two, having to stare at the dashboard with sadness after force quitting the game, AGAIN.

Why would you ever release this, it's broken. MM is broken, Achievements are broken, playlist suck, the game is bugged to shit, the UI is a train wreck, parties get split up randomly, etc, etc, etc...

Why is it ok to give something to millions of fans that is so obviously not finished?

I love, love, love halo CE. You guys honestly didn't have to do anything other then make it online compatible and I would have given any of you my hand in marriage, that's all I wanted and all I expected. Yet you manage to mess that up... You give us no dedicated Halo CE MM playlist, so I am forced to make customs work, and then you make the whole experience of partying up and getting games working, a complete mess.



This game makes me sad inside. :(
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My Heart's breaking...

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kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Sephzilla said:
Maybe I was just lucky but I didn't have nearly the issues some of you guy seem to have had. After midnight it was hard for me to get into a game but after around noon or so today it became progressively easier to get into games.

I think the Gears 2 comparison is a little bit over the top. At least when you managed to get into a game of MCC, the game actually ran pretty flawlessly. I don't remember Gears 2 having even that silver lining.
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I've been booted from custom games multiple times. One hard freeze in campaign, too, and I've barely played campaign. At this point it's lucky if the game let's people form a full party in the custom games lobby -- no hyperbole there, that's another common issue I've seen.
 
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Sephzilla

Member
kittens said:
I've been booted from custom games multiple times. One hard freeze in campaign, too, and I've barely played campaign. At this point it's lucky if the game let's people form a full party in the custom games lobby -- no hyperbole there, that's another common issue I've seen.
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I went back and edited my comment to just straight up say "I was lucky" lol

Remember launch day of the Halo 3 beta (the real reason everyone bought Crackdown)? I still think that day was worse.
 
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Devin Olsen

Member
I'm reposting for new page, I don't even care.

Fuck you 343 for thinking it was ok to release this game.

I've had to quit to dashboard because the game completely crashed/locked up, SIX times today. I didn't even play that much, I played halo CE Customs (because lol match making) and during games/while setting up games it would crash.

Just now I got into my SECOND match making game ever (hAd the game for two full days and have been trying to play MM since) I got into a 6v4 game on bloodline and the game crashed trying to load the carnage report.

Do you want to take a guess how many times the game crashed during my COUNTLESS hours of Halo:CE, Halo PC, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo: Reach and Halo 4? ZERO. Quite literally zero. Never ever ever have I had to quit a game or be kicked from a game of halo because the game crashed, yet here I am on day two, having to stare at the dashboard with sadness after force quitting the game, AGAIN.

Why would you ever release this, it's broken. MM is broken, Achievements are broken, playlist suck, the game is bugged to shit, the UI is a train wreck, parties get split up randomly, etc, etc, etc...

Why is it ok to give something to millions of fans that is so obviously not finished?

I love, love, love halo CE. You guys honestly didn't have to do anything other then make it online compatible and I would have given any of you my hand in marriage, that's all I wanted and all I expected. Yet you manage to mess that up... You give us no dedicated Halo CE MM playlist, so I am forced to make customs work, and then you make the whole experience of partying up and getting games working, a complete mess.



This game makes me sad inside. :(
 
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Booshka

Member
Sephzilla said:
I went back and edited my comment to just straight up say "I was lucky" lol

Remember launch day of the Halo 3 beta (the real reason everyone bought Crackdown)? I still think that day was worse.
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Crackdown was better than Halo 3, Sunset Overdrive might be better than MCC.

Totally serious about the Crackdown part, btw.
 
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Son of Sam

Banned
Sephzilla said:
At least you can get into MCC and do some stuff.

H3 Beta Day 1 you couldn't even get into it what so ever until like 8pm, and then there were the initial woes that came after that.
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I rather know the whole thing is down so i don't waste my time and hope trying to get a match going to be honest. Plus, day 2 of that beta went pretty well. I can't imagine day 2 of this being much better, there's just too many problems.
 
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Madness

Member
Sephzilla said:
At least you can get into MCC and do some stuff.

H3 Beta Day 1 you couldn't even get into it what so ever until like 8pm, and then there were the initial woes that came after that.

Crackdown was fun! Crackdown 2... eh
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Except you're comparing a beta to a released game now. The beta is a supposed to be a buggy mess and it was part of the crackdown game, not even Halo. So what did they really care?

Here, even achievements aren't working. Party joining and leaving is messed up, matchmaking straight up isn't working, custom games are a mess, so many small glitches and bugs from things like 1th place, even the loadouts for Halo 4 have problems being renamed. The game freezes, locks up, host migration issues, disappearing rosters, and so many small things are just adding up.

It's cool everything is working flawless for you, but you're in the extreme minority here. It's broken for almost anyone I've talked to or seen. Even streamers are losing their shit trying to get just customs working good.
 
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Sephzilla

Member
So I just need to say, I kind of think some of the framerate complaints are a little silly. In my head it translates to "Oh no, my framerate is dipping down to something that's still higher than anything the previous console Halos ran at"

I understand that a consistent framerate is still more ideal though

IDK - I'm super tired so maybe it's making me ornery

Madness said:
Except you're comparing a beta to a released game now. The beta is a supposed to be a buggy mess and it was part of the crackdown game, not even Halo. So what did they really care?

Here, even achievements aren't working. Party joining and leaving is messed up, matchmaking straight up isn't working, custom games are a mess, so many small glitches and bugs from things like 1th place, even the loadouts for Halo 4 have problems being renamed. The game freezes, locks up, host migration issues, disappearing rosters, and so many small things are just adding up.

It's cool everything is working flawless for you, but you're in the extreme minority here. It's broken for almost anyone I've talked to or seen. Even streamers are losing their shit trying to get just customs working good.
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I'll say this, MCC needs a beta more than Halo 5.
 
ElRenoRaven

ElRenoRaven

Member
So now after a good 24 hours I have to say. I agree that 343 should be ashamed for having released a game that needed more time in the oven. Here is a list of just some of the things I and even others here have noticed.

Audio tends to cut out the first time you fire a weapon after either pausing or starting a level
Achievements not unlocking
1th place? come on need we say more on this one?
Can't find matches but once in a blue moon.
Matchmaking locks up.
Game freezes
random person in matchmaking gets host and can kick people
Games can start with nobody on other team
Games split parties
Games start teams uneven 3v1 5v2 etc
Audio is still poorly mixed. Music is so much louder than voices and drowns them out.
Some dialog is missing. Example Marine on Delta Halo saying dear sarge kicking ass in outer space is an example. Johnson still replies but the marine does not say it.
Graphical glitches out ass. Weird model popping/phasing. Shadows disappearing, extremely low res textures in some spots, missing some effects.
Game saves are broken. You lose progress. Hell sometimes you end up on an entirely new level from what you were playing on.
AI bugs. I and others have noticed that AI will not respond. I've seen elites stuck in corners looking at wall. Marines refuse to get into and on vehicles even when room, AI just quits responding.
Enemy placement in a few places seems off too.
several MP maps are glitchy
Game can load map and gametype that nobody voted for and wasn't an option to vote for.
Grenades cook time are way too short on frags.
related to this I've noticed some weapons firing rates seem off too. Could this be a side effect of going 60 fps from the original intended 30?
enemies randomly die for no reason
player randomly dies for no reason. I'm talking no shooting them or anything. Sometimes an enemy will just fall over dead like I shot them. Vice versa for me.
Roster doesn't show all friends playing
framerate is not steady at all.
some cutscenes pause or stutter
Game doesn't always save controller configuration
Blacks are crushed to hell. Some areas are so damn dark I have no choice but to switch to older graphics to see.
Games crash due to being unable to load data needed.

Hell I could go on and on but I think most will agree that to see a list of issues this long is insane. It's not even everything either. 343 either blatantly lied about the game and knew it was in no state to be released or somewhere someone screwed up and consumers got the wrong build. Now with that said. Hopefully they'll get everything fixed. I seriously doubt they will or can though to be honest.
 
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Sephzilla

Member
So I'm just curious - what level of blame goes to 343 and what level of blame goes to Microsoft? MCC was clearly pulled out of the oven a little too soon. Seems like Microsoft wouldn't let 343 deviate from 11/11
 
ElRenoRaven

ElRenoRaven

Member
Sephzilla said:
So I'm just curious - what level of blame goes to 343 and what level of blame goes to Microsoft? MCC was clearly pulled out of the oven a little too soon. Seems like Microsoft wouldn't let 343 deviate from 11/11
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100 percent goes to both. 343 is a MS owned studio. They ultimately were responsible for the game. They were supervising every other studio working on the game. Microsoft was obviously publisher and QA for it and obviously either let it release in a broken state or were completely incompetent.
 
Nirvana

Nirvana

Member
Anyone having issues with the in-game sound? In campaign the cutscene music will often be incredibly loud and I get this really loud distorted feedback coming from the speakers, and in multiplayer the same thing occasionally happens when firing the battle rifle. I haven't had any problems with this before on the Xboner, so I'm guessing it's just another MCC issue.

Matchmaking is still a disaster area, can barely find matches, the party system is busted and parties never seem to stay together, and the only playlist where I have managed to find games is the Halo 2 Classic one.

Overall a pretty shitty launch day, but I suppose something of this scale was going to have problemos.
 
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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
PsychoRaven said:
So now after a good 24 hours I have to say. I agree that 343 should be ashamed for having released a game that needed more time in the oven. Here is a list of just some of the things I and even others here have noticed.

Audio tends to cut out the first time you fire a weapon after either pausing or starting a level
Achievements not unlocking
1th place? come on need we say more on this one?
Can't find matches but once in a blue moon.
Matchmaking locks up.
Game freezes
random person in matchmaking gets host and can kick people
Games can start with nobody on other team
Games split parties
Games start teams uneven 3v1 5v2 etc
Audio is still poorly mixed. Music is so much louder than voices and drowns them out.
Some dialog is missing. Example Marine on Delta Halo saying dear sarge kicking ass in outer space is an example. Johnson still replies but the marine does not say it.
Graphical glitches out ass. Weird model popping/phasing. Shadows disappearing, extremely low res textures in some spots, missing some effects.
Game saves are broken. You lose progress. Hell sometimes you end up on an entirely new level from what you were playing on.
AI bugs. I and others have noticed that AI will not respond. I've seen elites stuck in corners looking at wall. Marines refuse to get into and on vehicles even when room, AI just quits responding.
Enemy placement in a few places seems off too.
several MP maps are glitchy
Game can load map and gametype that nobody voted for and wasn't an option to vote for.
Grenades cook time are way too short on frags.
related to this I've noticed some weapons firing rates seem off too. Could this be a side effect of going 60 fps from the original intended 30?
enemies randomly die for no reason
player randomly dies for no reason. I'm talking no shooting them or anything. Sometimes an enemy will just fall over dead like I shot them. Vice versa for me.
Roster doesn't show all friends playing
framerate is not steady at all.
some cutscenes pause or stutter
Game doesn't always save controller configuration
Blacks are crushed to hell. Some areas are so damn dark I have no choice but to switch to older graphics to see.
Games crash due to being unable to load data needed.

Hell I could go on and on but I think most will agree that to see a list of issues this long is insane. It's not even everything either. 343 either blatantly lied about the game and knew it was in no state to be released or somewhere someone screwed up and consumers got the wrong build. Now with that said. Hopefully they'll get everything fixed. I seriously doubt they will or can though to be honest.
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Yeah, this just scratches the surface and doesn't even go into halo channel bugs.

This really is the worst launch I can ever remember. Gears 2 included.
 
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Sephzilla

Member
PsychoRaven said:
100 percent goes to both. 343 is a MS owned studio. They ultimately were responsible for the game. They were supervising every other studio working on the game. Microsoft was obviously publisher and QA for it and obviously either let it release in a broken state or were completely incompetent.
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Hypothetically speaking - if Microsoft told 343 "this is going to be released on the 11th" and 343 said "it's not ready" and Microsoft said "release it anyway" I'd have issue with putting 100 blame on 343 for that. There's really nothing they could do in that scenario besides ship an unfinished game.
 
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malfcn

Member
Had one crash after a custom game.
Halo 4 customs don't work at 100% download.
Halo 1 customs do work at 100% download.

Going to wait until the whole collection is 100% before trying to play around with it more.
No doubt this package had to have been a lot of work. Hope they can get all the bugs worked out.
 
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Omni

Member
PsychoRaven said:
Some dialog is missing. Example Marine on Delta Halo saying dear sarge kicking ass in outer space is an example. Johnson still replies but the marine does not say it.

Blacks are crushed to hell. Some areas are so damn dark I have no choice but to switch to older graphics to see.
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As for number 1, I'm 98% sure I heard my ODST say that. I was using a headset and it was very quiet though. Music was drowning it out.

Number 2... Haha. Oh god. There's a point on the Arbiter mission where you gotta ride the Gongola thing to retrieve the Index and the whole thing becomes pitch black. I think it was an artistic choice though because the lights around you occasionally light the area up. But when you can't see the 10 flood forms 3 feet in front of you, it becomes a problem.
 
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darthbob

Member
PsychoRaven said:
So now after a good 24 hours I have to say. I agree that 343 should be ashamed for having released a game that needed more time in the oven. Here is a list of just some of the things I and even others here have noticed.

Audio tends to cut out the first time you fire a weapon after either pausing or starting a level
Achievements not unlocking
1th place? come on need we say more on this one?
Can't find matches but once in a blue moon.
Matchmaking locks up.
Game freezes
random person in matchmaking gets host and can kick people
Games can start with nobody on other team
Games split parties
Games start teams uneven 3v1 5v2 etc
Audio is still poorly mixed. Music is so much louder than voices and drowns them out.
Some dialog is missing. Example Marine on Delta Halo saying dear sarge kicking ass in outer space is an example. Johnson still replies but the marine does not say it.
Graphical glitches out ass. Weird model popping/phasing. Shadows disappearing, extremely low res textures in some spots, missing some effects.
Game saves are broken. You lose progress. Hell sometimes you end up on an entirely new level from what you were playing on.
AI bugs. I and others have noticed that AI will not respond. I've seen elites stuck in corners looking at wall. Marines refuse to get into and on vehicles even when room, AI just quits responding.
Enemy placement in a few places seems off too.
several MP maps are glitchy
Game can load map and gametype that nobody voted for and wasn't an option to vote for.
Grenades cook time are way too short on frags.
related to this I've noticed some weapons firing rates seem off too. Could this be a side effect of going 60 fps from the original intended 30?
enemies randomly die for no reason
player randomly dies for no reason. I'm talking no shooting them or anything. Sometimes an enemy will just fall over dead like I shot them. Vice versa for me.
Roster doesn't show all friends playing
framerate is not steady at all.
some cutscenes pause or stutter
Game doesn't always save controller configuration
Blacks are crushed to hell. Some areas are so damn dark I have no choice but to switch to older graphics to see.
Games crash due to being unable to load data needed.
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Bold are issues that were present in the original 2004 Halo 2.

Italicized is indeed an issue with the higher framerate. Some weapons firing rate were frame timed, such as the Carbine. Basically you could only fire a set amount of shots per frames, and if the frames are literally doubled then you can fire twice as fast.
 
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Mr. Enigma

Member
This is looking like the biggest botch since Silent Hill HD Collection.

Everyone at 343 should be truly ashamed. Bungie should kick the door in and take all their games away from the scary, irresponsible new stepdad. 343 can hold on to their precious Halo 4 (lol).
 
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ultimota

Member
Mr. Enigma said:
This is looking like the biggest botch since Silent Hill HD Collection.

Everyone at 343 should be truly ashamed. Bungie should kick the door in and take all their games away from the scary, irresponsible new stepdad. 343 can hold on to their precious Halo 4 (lol).
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This post is so incredibly pathetic.
 
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King Leo

Neo Member
Man.. H2A has good hit detection. A bit too good honestly. The BR has the range of a sniper. Played some matchmaking on Zenith and there was literally BR battles from tower to tower. Just doesn't feel right.
 
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buddha0991

Member
This collection may be rough around the edges but I stayed up till 4 am playing this thing. If they can clean this game up, I foresee many sleepless nights in the future man.
 
Ozzy Onya A2Z

Ozzy Onya A2Z

Member
randomrosso said:
As for number 1, I'm 98% sure I heard my ODST say that. I was using a headset and it was very quiet though. Music was drowning it out.

Number 2... Haha. Oh god. There's a point on the Arbiter mission where you gotta ride the Gongola thing to retrieve the Index and the whole thing becomes pitch black. I think it was an artistic choice though because the lights around you occasionally light the area up. But when you can't see the 10 flood forms 3 feet in front of you, it becomes a problem.
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I switched back to classic to pass that bit, after dying 4 or 5 times to that exact issue with anniversary mode.
 
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Mr. Enigma

Member
ultimota said:
Being a "junior" has nothing to do with it, what you said was really unreasonable



the amount of disrespect in this part specifically is insane
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I wasted a vacation day from work to play this. Guess how much I got to play? An amount that makes me upset with these fools who pushed out a broken game. It's my opinion. Suck it up.
 
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Der Flatulator

Member
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Hire me, 343.

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Akai__

Member
I don't understand why Halo 2 campaign resets to last checkpoint, if you or your co-op buddy dies. It's like having the Iron skull permamently on and it's pretty annoying.

Was it this way, when Halo 2 came out on Xbox?
 
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tootsi666

Member
Akai__ said:
I don't understand why Halo 2 campaign resets to last checkpoint, if you or your co-op buddy dies. It's like having the Iron skull permamently on and it's pretty annoying.

Was it this way, when Halo 2 came out on Xbox?
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It was always like that
Edit. On legendary atleast
 
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