No, I'm not. I know that digitally, MS has Below coming out soon, but I didn't even mention digital until the second quote because if you do it just becomes downright unfair overall.
I think games shared wtih PC do "count" since the average consumer won't really look at a gaming PC as an option.
No, I'm not. I know that digitally, MS has Below coming out soon, but I didn't even mention digital until the second quote because if you do it just becomes downright unfair overall.
I think games shared wtih PC do "count" since the average consumer won't really look at a gaming PC as an option.
It's not. I mean don't get me wrong, I loved SO this year and I'm going to love QB but that's just not enough. Yes, Sony also relies on established IP (UC,GT, GOW, etc) but just look at the amount of new IPs they're bringing in the next year alone.not to mention that we know a lot of their studios are also doing brand new IPs. Meanwhile, MS will have another year of Halo, Forza, Fable and probably a Gears collection thrown in there. I'd mention TR but that's clearly just timed.
My point is, they should really start doing something about that. They coasted with the 360 relying on third party support abd better sales in the US. They can't do that anymore. Heck, they just canceled one of their their big new IPs in favor of more Gears.
I really hope Rare is doing something interesting, but they've been dead for years.
I personally jumped in for SO and the MCC, and I'm satisfied with the console but I'm not the average consumer
First of all on Rare: Kinect Sports sold 9m units that was a new IP, not bad for a dead company. Just because they make something you don't want, doesn't mean they are "dead", I doubt they've ever been more alive under Microsoft as they were when KS was a hit. You complain about a lack of new IP but that was one, you're just cherry picking what suits you.
Now moving on: Considering how Halo, Fable, Forza and Gears sell, the "average consumer" clearly wants more of those games, you're projecting your argument about new IPs as if consumers are only wanting those and not the franchises that are very successful yet we can clearly see we are getting and want both.
We've had Ryse and Sunset Overdrive in the AAA space in the first year, Powerstar Golf, Crimson Dragon, D4, Kalimba, Lococycle and Project Spark, plus some other established IPs like Killer Instinct, Max and Halo Spartan Assault (Max was a new IP release for MS and on Xbox but its not in reality). Screamride is due out in March, State of Decay (which was a huge new IP for MS) is getting a remaster in the Spring, Ori is early 2015, look ma, 3 new IPs!
Microsoft are a business, they're looking at their successful IPs and giving gamers more of those* because that is what they want the exact same as Sony have - Infamous, LBP, Killzone, TLoU, Uncharted with Ratchet and Clank, God of War and Gran Turismo coming, MS are also giving us new IPs: Ryse, SO, Quantum Break and Scalebound, there is obviously more coming too, for the sake of parity I’ll add Sony are obviously giving us new IPs too because unfortunately I feel I need to add it.
Sonys big IPs are just as important to their line-up as Microsofts, lets not forget last gen we had 3 Resistance’s (5 if you include handhelds), 2 Killzones, 4/5 Ratchet and Clanks, 3 Uncharted, 3 Gran Turismo, 2 Infamous, 3 Motorstorm… its not all sunshine, roses and new IPs at Sony either, a line-up Is such for a reason, to provide a variety of games in established and new franchises.
Sony obviously did better to cater to the "core" gamer with new IPs in the later years but we can see Microsoft are spreading their line-up between new and old, their reliance on those franchises is just good business. Lionhead are on new IP anyway as are other studios, there really is no concern to be had over the Microsoft line-up. They're also (seemingly) working on bringing back other titles from the back catalogue, I don't think the average consumer sits there screaming for new IPs, they want good high quality releases which Microsoft are providing with a range of titles.
I honestly, honestly do not see why people keep assuming that just because MS has the money, and use it, that others will out-and-out take it. This may surprise y'all but money isn't the main reason for a lot of business deals. If MS offered SE money to buy them out, I'm 100% sure SE would decline. If they offered that to Rockstar, they would decline. EA? They'd decline, too....surprisingly. These guys don't want to be under MS's thumb, or any other company's thumb for that matter. That's why they exist as their own.
And if you're only talking single-game deals...again, money isn't the end-all, be-all. With that thinking TR should be a full (console)-exclusive, but it's only timed. Meanwhile SFV is a full (console) exclusive on PS4, and it's assumed Sony gave Capcom less money than MS gave SE (not to mention, the nature of that deal is very different).
So, why the disparity? Corporate cultures, business partners, personal relationships...all that stuff. It means just as much as money, in some cases much more.
I'm just tired of seeing the "checkbook" point thrown around like it's more powerful than it really is. The deals aren't made flippantly and there are developers/publishers who will never make those sort of deals with Microsoft due to ethical, personal and cultural reasons. Same with Sony, and Nintendo. Money isn't everything.
Exactly the reason why people needs to let go of this, "They moneyhatted this & that!" nonsense.
It's not always about "moneyhatting" stuff as to why certain games like Street Fighter V stay PS4 exclusive within Japanese 3rd party publishers, or anything of the sort.
No, I'm not. I know that digitally, MS has Below coming out soon, but I didn't even mention digital until the second quote because if you do it just becomes downright unfair overall.
I think games shared wtih PC do "count" since the average consumer won't really look at a gaming PC as an option.
First of all on Rare: Kinect Sports sold 9m units that was a new IP, not bad for a dead company. Just because they make something you don't want, doesn't mean they are "dead", I doubt they've ever been more alive under Microsoft as they were when KS was a hit. You complain about a lack of new IP but that was one, you're just cherry picking what suits you.
Now moving on: Considering how Halo, Fable, Forza and Gears sell, the "average consumer" clearly wants more of those games, you're projecting your argument about new IPs as if consumers are only wanting those and not the franchises that are very successful yet we can clearly see we are getting and want both.
We've had Ryse and Sunset Overdrive in the AAA space in the first year, Powerstar Golf, Crimson Dragon, D4, Kalimba, Lococycle and Project Spark, plus some other established IPs like Killer Instinct, Max and Halo Spartan Assault (Max was a new IP release for MS and on Xbox but its not in reality). Screamride is due out in March, State of Decay (which was a huge new IP for MS) is getting a remaster in the Spring, Ori is early 2015, look ma, 3 new IPs!
Microsoft are a business, they're looking at their successful IPs and giving gamers more of those* because that is what they want the exact same as Sony have - Infamous, LBP, Killzone, TLoU, Uncharted with Ratchet and Clank, God of War and Gran Turismo coming, MS are also giving us new IPs: Ryse, SO, Quantum Break and Scalebound, there is obviously more coming too, for the sake of parity I’ll add Sony are obviously giving us new IPs too because unfortunately I feel I need to add it.
Sonys big IPs are just as important to their line-up as Microsofts, lets not forget last gen we had 3 Resistance’s (5 if you include handhelds), 2 Killzones, 4/5 Ratchet and Clanks, 3 Uncharted, 3 Gran Turismo, 2 Infamous, 3 Motorstorm… its not all sunshine, roses and new IPs at Sony either, a line-up Is such for a reason, to provide a variety of games in established and new franchises.
Sony obviously did better to cater to the "core" gamer with new IPs in the later years but we can see Microsoft are spreading their line-up between new and old, their reliance on those franchises is just good business. Lionhead are on new IP anyway as are other studios, there really is no concern to be had over the Microsoft line-up. They're also (seemingly) working on bringing back other titles from the back catalogue, I don't think the average consumer sits there screaming for new IPs, they want good high quality releases which Microsoft are providing with a range of titles.
*Fable Legends not included
No Man's Sky is an indie game first on Playstation...
True, perhaps, but how much did that Kinect Sports game on the X1 sell? Rare is dead until they prove they can make a good core game (at least to me).
Lionhead's new IP, I'll believe that when I see it. Fable Legends doesn't inspire much confidence. I've no idea what Screamride is, probably why it slipped my mind. And again, I'm not arguing for what was released this past year. I think overall, MS has done pretty well. I'm talking about this incoming year, and if you take out the games you listed that are already out, you can see what I'm talking about. Going into next years, the lineup is far more weaker than it was this past year.
No Man's Sky is a new IP, and "exclusive" (in the sense that it's only on PS and PC). If it's ever announced for Xbox (which we have no prove will even happen), then we can call it otherwise.
I just don't see PC being actual competition right now, especially with the PS4 selling so damn well so far. It's more that companies don't mind putting games on PC since it doesn't affect console sales and they can make a few bucks from the PC crowd. Why wouldn't they?
I can believe that. Steam has grown massively over the past few years and keeps setting new concurrent players records. Those people have be coming from somewhere. I don't imagine they are all hardcore gamers.
True, perhaps, but how much did that Kinect Sports game on the X1 sell? Rare is dead until they prove they can make a good core game (at least to me).
Lionhead's new IP, I'll believe that when I see it. Fable Legends doesn't inspire much confidence. I've no idea what Screamride is, probably why it slipped my mind. And again, I'm not arguing for what was released this past year. I think overall, MS has done pretty well. I'm talking about this incoming year, and if you take out the games you listed that are already out, you can see what I'm talking about. Going into next years, the lineup is far more weaker than it was this past year.
No Man's Sky is a new IP, and "exclusive" (in the sense that it's only on PS and PC). If it's ever announced for Xbox (which we have no prove will even happen), then we can call it otherwise.
I don't think Screamride, SoD Remaster, Happy Wars, Ori and the Blind Forest, Halo 3: ODST Remaster, Fable Legends, Quantum Break, Tomb Raider and Halo 5 counts as a "far more weaker" line-up than 2014. The obvious Forza sequel, Killer Instinct Season 3 as well, and other stuff that might come out (a few others are announced but not known how far along they are), I think you will find it a hard job to find someone who agrees with you as well.
The titles there obviously vary in scope and distribution but Xbox One owners have a much better line-up to look forward to this year, even if its a bit sparse in the early months.
The Black Tusk game. We didn't know much about it but the concept sounded good and they were pushing it as the next huge IP (like Halo big) so I was looking forward to it. I like Gears, but it's disappointing.
I don't think Screamride, SoD Remaster, Happy Wars, Ori and the Blind Forest, Halo 3: ODST Remaster, Fable Legends, Quantum Break, Tomb Raider and Halo 5 counts as a "far more weaker" line-up than 2014. The obvious Forza sequel, Killer Instinct Season 3 as well, and other stuff that might come out (a few others are announced but not known how far along they are), I think you will find it a hard job to find someone who agrees with you as well.
The titles there obviously vary in scope and distribution but Xbox One owners have a much better line-up to look forward to, even if its a bit sparse in the early months.
True, it's debatable. Again, I don't know what Screamride is, or SOD (a 360 game?), or Happy Wars. Ori looks great, I'll be picking it up. Halo 3 ODST is another remaster. QB is going to be amazing, TR is timed and Halo 5, well going by the Beta (and the MCC's buggy release and still buggy State) I probably won't buy day 1.
Basically what I'm saying is, will someone pick a PS4 over a X1 for those games at price parity? I personally don't think so, which leads back to my original point of this being a bad move on MS' part.
With that game it's badically CBOATs word vs Phil spencer. spencer said it was more or less a concept video and not an actual game. CBOAT was the one who said that it was an actual game that got cancelled in favor of Gears
With that game it's badically CBOATs word vs Phil spencer. spencer said it was more or less a concept video and not an actual game. CBOAT was the one who said that it was an actual game that got cancelled in favor of Gears
With that game it's badically CBOATs word vs Phil spencer. spencer said it was more or less a concept video and not an actual game. CBOAT was the one who said that it was an actual game that got cancelled in favor of Gears
With that game it's badically CBOATs word vs Phil spencer. spencer said it was more or less a concept video and not an actual game. CBOAT was the one who said that it was an actual game that got cancelled in favor of Gears
As much as I like Phil, I think he was being disingenuous about Shangheist tbh. I asked him how it was coming along on twitter in 2013 when he went to the studio before the Gears stuff and he said there was some interesting work coming along with Microsoft Research.
They'd been working on it for a while after their rebrand from Microsoft Studios Vancouver and original project(s) got canned and are a big studio (even before the recruitment drive for Gears) and they'd been working a lot on UE4. Thats not to say it was necessarily very far along and it was even close to launching because I very much doubt it was, but I think a decent amount of work had been done on it.
Basically what I'm saying is, will someone pick a PS4 over a X1 for those games at price parity? I personally don't think so, which leads back to my original point of this being a bad move on MS' part.
If you don't know what State of Decay is, you should educate yourself
I think their line-up for holiday 2015 combined with any offers they do will be massive. Halo 5 is coming, thats all they need, the rest is just icing on the cake.
I don't think games released late last year will help any more than upcoming games early this year.
Hell if you didn't get an Xbone with the crazy discounts they had and at a time of the year where it becomes more feasible for many to get one, I don't see how games that already released will help all that much.
I highly doubt that anything coming during the first 2-3 months of this year will be as big as the popular third party franchises that released in November. Games like Call of Duty and NBA 2K continue on selling pretty well (NPD) until the summer months.
Also, word of mouth works both ways, I don't understand why people keep holding onto it when the PS4 still sold quite well these holidays, and when all is said and done it still will be on the lead. I would think that the system that's on more people hands will propulse more word of mouth. Specially when that system still has good perception and it has some attractive games coming early, and throughout the year.
Again, I never said it's exclusive to the Xbox One. Said many times that both systems will get it. The Xbox One selling more these past two months (that is again, if it beat the PS4 in December) means that there's more people who got it during the Christmas season. The "what console did you get for Christmas?" question will be answered with Xbox One more than PS4 and as I said previously, that will help a few to decide what console to get (people wanting to play with others online) especially since they are both the same price (instead of one only being available for $100 than the competitor like last year).
January has no major games so both consoles this month will be selling alongside what was released in November. I don't feel confident in saying what console will take this month (January 2015 NPD) yet.
That was the result of the PS4 being more desirable at the same price of its competitor.
Yeah, and it was after many months of the PS4 being $100 cheaper. The Xbox One getting to the same price wasn't going to put an instant end to that -- especially during a month that's usually pretty low for console sales anyway.
If you don't know what State of Decay is, you should educate yourself
I think their line-up for holiday 2015 combined with any offers they do will be massive. Halo 5 is coming, thats all they need, the rest is just icing on the cake.
Ah I see. I wasn't sure about the abreviation and thought it was a game called SOD. Yea, I bought it on steam a few months ago, it was pretty okay, burned a few hours on it.
There's a huge gulf between playing a similar section in an action based set piece for a first person title and playing the section in a third person stealth based game. For all we knew, that could have just been one of multiple ways to enter the building...
There's a huge gulf between playing a similar section in an action based set piece for a first person title and playing the section in a third person stealth based game. For all we knew, that could have just been one of multiple ways to enter the building...
There's a huge gulf between playing a similar section in an action based set piece for a first person title and playing the section in a third person stealth based game. For all we knew, that could have just been one of multiple ways to enter the building...
It absolutely does. Gears is tired, can't imagine anything they do with Gears 4 will be able to bring it more than partway back to life. Unless they take a real risk and shake up the entire formula.
New, extreme locations with all sorts of environmental dangers. New, more insidious enemy types that are able to hide in plain sight, a real emphasis on survival gameplay where every bullet counts, injuries causing real time damage that has be patched up or will result in enemies locating you from your blood, makeshift weapons, a more tense atmosphere, a darker tone.
Seriously, stealth games are like the least boring genre. The excitement and euphoric rush of pulling off an entire level without a single kill or without being discovered once is just an incredible feeling like no other. One that no other genre has been able to replicate.
Seriously, stealth games are like the least boring genre. The excitement and euphoric rush of pulling off an entire level without a single kill or without being discovered once is just an incredible feeling like no other. One that no other genre has been able to replicate.
Seriously, stealth games are like the least boring genre. The excitement and euphoric rush of pulling off an entire level without a single kill or without being discovered once is just an incredible feeling like no other. One that no other genre has been able to replicate.
