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The Hobbit Part 3: TBOFA What was the worst part? Of this god awful film. *Spoilers*

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Just got back from the cinema, and man.

Absolutely Garbage.

Everything that is going to happen is ridiculously telegraphed and the acting makes you feel like you're on the set of a B movie.

I'll sum up the opening scene as my most hated but fuck me the final battle was pretty bad and that fight scene with Sauron had some of the fucking worst use of special effects I've seen in a while. That fucking scene where Legolas becomes Super Mario and jumps on falling bricks? The orcs threatening to slow mo stab every character 20 times, when they get saved just in time all the fucking time.. uuuugh, the bad bad acting.

Anyway, What was your worst scene in this film and why?

From the top, Smaug is burning the town and the effects are pretty impressive, for the most part. However the second people come into view god the acting is bad, "OMG It's a dragon, he's setting the town on fire, everybody run wwwaaaaaaaa". Awful acting from the people of lake town.
Bard is locked in a cell and is trying to break out, poor guy how did he even get into this mess god everything is blocked he can't get out, there is no hope. Beneath him, a side story you won't give two shits about is playing out. The Mayor and his best friend I don't know lets call him Worm Tongue are sailing their little boat down the stream, their boat is entirely covered in gold and people are trying to climb on their boat, but of course because these guys ARE THE BAD GUYS they don't let any of the poor people climb on their boat, because they need that fucking gold, Just totally ignore that dragon overhead destroying the entire town. The boat can sail with both of them on it, but not for long apparently as the mayor decides to drop off his friend Worm Tongue in the water so the boat stays above the water.
It's all smooth sailing for the badies and it's looking like the hero Bard can't be saved when...suddenly... whats that? a rope where from omg, just lying around in the cell. HANG ON IT'S FUCKING MACGYVER!
MacGyver "Bard" decides he needs to break out of prison before the dragon kills him, so he throws a rope around the mayor, whom passes beneath the cell just in time, so Bard pulls the mayor into the stern of his own ship, the pressure of the fat bad guy being pullled into his own ship pulls an entire metal prison window out.
Yes a small boat you could tie to a wharf with fucking no effort, doesn't somehow stop when then old man is pulled into the stern? Heres what would happen, the boat would stop moving, kick sideways, the mayor would fall out and Bard would still be fucked.

Anyway cut to Bard up a tower now shooting arrows at Smaug that deal 0 damage. Smaug wants Bard dead, but not until he talks to him for a bit about how good he is at cooking things. You see Bard is shooting arrows at Smaug but they don't work, and somehow Bard broke his bow. Smaug suddenly can tell bard is chilling out with his son, fucked if I know how from that large distance, anyway, it looks like Bard and his son are totally fucked, when...OMG WHATS THIS? FUCKING MACGYVER/CHUCK NORRIS makes a bow out of a broken bow and uses his sons shoulder to aim the fucking thing. Meanwhile Smaug moves as slow as he can and Massively Telegraphs his weak point and shows it to bard, ATTACK THIS FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE, Bard only has 1 arrow for the shot, but it doesnt matter, he fucking 360 No Scopes that shit from 100 yards away... with a bow string probably not capable of launching such a huge arrow. The magical arrow, that by the way the son found just in time. The arrow that was telegraphed in about 10 scenes in the previous film, the arrow that had killed a dragon before, the arrow that was shot by a gallant hero of lake town, he shot the dragon in his WEAK SPOT.

Who fucking saw this coming?

Yeah, I had no idea this moment was coming. I actually thought he would miss and get burned alive.

You can sum up Bard shooting the arrow pretty much like this.

HEY LISTEN

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This set the scene for the entire film.

It was awful.

Can't wait for the shortened fan made cut that makes this trilogy into 1 film that isn't shit.
 
Legolas literally walking on air. I wasn't much of a fan before that scene (movie feels too much like one big fight scene with zero exposition or resolution), but that scene had me wanting to throw my hands up and leave the cinema.

Ridiculous how OP he was. Straight Terminator in Smaug and then someone who is able to walk on air in Five Armies.
 

Cheebo

Banned
Thranduil sending Legolas to find Strider for no logical reason at all. Other than HEY KIDS REMEMBER ARAGON?

Or those massive mega worm things that can eat through mountains nearly instantly. Might be useful in a war...nah let them go away after doing that and never come back.
 

Vashetti

Banned
Thranduil sending Legolas to find Strider for no logical reason at all. Other than HEY KIDS REMEMBER ARAGON?

Or those massive mega worm things that can eat through mountains nearly instantly. Might be useful in a war...nah let them go away after doing that and never come back.

Legolas jumps to Aragorn's defence at the Council of Elrond, suggesting a history between them.
 

Cheebo

Banned
Legolas jumps to Aragorn's defence at the Council of Elrond, suggesting a history between them.

But it makes no logical sense for his dad to go send him to find him. There is no plot motivation for that at all. It is just a nonsense wink at the fans.
 

Footos22

Member
I loved it was very entertaining. Apart from super legolas 3d world and you know those massive tremor worms that can eat mountains but decide to pop up away from the mountain they are trying to take instead of just burrowing a hole right underneath it.

fucking stupid orcs.
 

Lord Panda

The Sea is Always Right
Alfrid.

That putrid character had a storyline that went absolutely nowhere and killed the movie each time he was onscreen. PJ and co. must have been toking something mad when they came up with that awful character.

Boyens, Walsh, and Jackson need a collective kick up the bum for putting that guy on screen.

Oh and one more thing ... Galadriel suddenly having a lie down in the middle of a fight. WTF JACKSON! WTFlyingF?!?!
 

-SD-

Banned
First one was quite bad. I don't know why I went to see the second. I had some hope, I guess. I have no desire to go and watch the third one.

Just so embarrasingly bad movies and a heinous crime against the book. Shame on you, Peter Jackson.
 

Yeah thanks mate, thanks for linking to your own thread too.

Legolas jumps to Aragorn's defence at the Council of Elrond, suggesting a history between them.

When does he jump to his defence?

In a previous film?

Tell me it didnt happen in the Hobbit because the way Thranduil speaks to him makes out that Legolas has never met him, he said "his real name, you'll have to discover for yourself!"

Doesn't sounds like he knows him at all.
 

Arksy

Member
I don't always support a Dwarven shield wall with my army of Elven archers, but when I do, I tell them to lay down their bows, jump over the shield wall and engage them at melee range.
 

karobit

Member
In the scene where Bilbo is telling Gandalf he'll go warn the dwarves, the music keeps going fucking insane. It starts with whatever battle music is going on and then Bilbo's all "I'll do it" and it goes to that soft shire music because he's a Hobbit or whatever and Gandalf's all "You fuckin' knob, they'll see you." Bilbo's all smarmy like "Nah," but we know he's talking about the ring so then it jolts to that dark Gollum music and then Gandalf's like "Oh okay you're the nicest Hobbit ever" and it's back to the shire music.

It's like a parody, I swear. Pay for some iMuse so your transitions aren't so shitty, Jackson.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
I hated the whole thing but ending battle was the worst part. Dwarfs coming out running from the main gate, LMAO wtf was that.

Peter Jackson tried to make it as epic and grand as LOTR but it failed in so many level.
 

Arksy

Member
I hated the whole thing but ending battle was the worst part. Dwarfs coming out running from the main gate, LMAO wtf was that.

Peter Jackson tried to make it as epic and grand as LOTR but it failed in so many level.

I think he stopped giving a shit from the piles of money he made.
 

Spineker

Banned
But it makes no logical sense for his dad to go send him to find him. There is no plot motivation for that at all. It is just a nonsense wink at the fans.

Apart from the fact that Thranduil knows he's the heir to the throne of Gondor?

I'm not sure how or why but....
 

Ghizz

Member
I don't always support a Dwarven shield wall with my army of Elven archers, but when I do, I tell them to lay down their bows, jump over the shield wall and engage them at melee range.

This....

Ignoring the awful parts, I fucking loved the mounts in the movie. Thranduil with his deer (OP antler attack) and the Dwarf King with his armored-boar that just yolo-charged was cool.

The 4 dwarves on their rams as they charged up the mountain was pretty sick. Got nerd shivers when they bypassed the roads and just climbed up the mountain face.

I have to agree though, Alfrid was dumb as f.
 

Real Hero

Member
I laughed out loud when like 6 dwarves came out to fight when the battle seemed lost and every one did a double take, even the the cgi orc.
 

Chuckie

Member
When does he jump to his defence?

The council of Elrond, which is FotR.

I really hated the scene where Galadriel showed her blue face anger. It didn't make sense...but they HAD to put it in because that's what she also did in Lord of the Rings.
 

Spineker

Banned
I laughed out loud when like 6 dwarves came out to fight when the battle seemed lost and every one did a double take, even the the cgi orc.

I think they were more likely double taking the giant fucking bell that just burst through the stone wall that the Dwarves built in like half an hour
 

Turin

Banned
Perhaps Thranduil, knowing he wasn't going to stop Legolas from leaving, figured it might be good for Legolas to recommend he meet with the man.

It's really neither here nor there.

Are you saying you didn't enjoy Middle Earth Egoraptor?

......I don't know the reference. :\
 

Renegade Yeti

Neo Member
I can forgive the bloat it's to be expected , heck peter Jackson's middle name is bloat , it was more that things we were promised we're missing like each of the dwarves getting their own moment, beorn actually appearing for more than a frame, hopefully this will be rectified in the EE , (I know beorn is) but I really doubt will get some huge extended dwarf battle sequence
 

Kain

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"If this is love, I do not want it."

"Why does it hurt so much?"
"Because it was real."

Oh god.

Legolas walking in the air. He shouldn't be there in the first place and then he becomes a crucial part of the war? What in the actual fuck, Peter Jackson?

No Beorn. Why do we need Legolas or mostly everyone for that matter when we have a man-bear. A guy who literally transforms into a huge bear of death and gore. And he doesn't appear for more than three seconds. WHAT.

The battle itself is stupid. The good guys are getting their asses kicked and with the appearence of 13 dwarves the odds turn? That can't be right. Why not bring more dwarves in the first place? Why are the worms so cool and so ignored? Why are orcs so bad at fighting? What do the humans do a part from dying in the streets?

I feel the battle is very poorly scripted. They didn't think that part through.

The movie (and trilogy) is a mess, but the actual action and the art design are superb. I wonder if Del Toro had any input in the monster designs after all, because that would explain why the orcs, trolls, monsters in general and the Mountain are so cool.
 

Spineker

Banned
Oh god.

Legolas walking in the air. He shouldn't be there in the first place and then he becomes a crucial part of the war? What in the actual fuck, Peter Jackson?

No Beorn. Why do we need Legolas or mostly everyone for that matter when we have a man-bear. A guy who literally transforms into a huge bear of death and gore. And he doesn't appear for more than three seconds. WHAT.

The battle itself is stupid. The good guys are getting their asses kicked and with the appearence of 13 dwarves the odds turn? That can't be right. Why not bring more dwarves in the first place? Why are the worms so cool and so ignored? Why are orcs so bad at fighting? What do the humans do a part from dying in the streets?

I feel the battle is very poorly scripted. They didn't think that part through.

The movie (and trilogy) is a mess, but the actual action and the art design are superb. I wonder if Del Toro had any input in the monster designs after all, because that would explain why the orcs, trolls, monsters in general and the Mountain are so cool.

I wouldn't say the troll that Bard kills to defend his kids was that great looking
 

Spineker

Banned
this was the worst part of the movie for me

To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised Aragorn didn't make a cameo appearance. Jackson took enough liberties with the book material elsewhere, especially when it comes to Legolas.

I dunno, I enjoyed it for what it was, but it helps that I never read the books. The overuse of CGI was shit though

Was that the one with the deformed arm? That one was disgustingly awesome!

No, the one that he fly stabs after riding the wooden cart down the hill
 
Was it Legolas Drake auto-platforming up a collapsing tower? Was it Alfrid in drag? Was it 'Won't someone think of the children'? Was it Thorin's "ascent out of madness"? Was it every scene with Evangeline Lily?

It was all of them, and more.
 

sankt-Antonio

:^)--?-<
Liquid gold in that Dwarf vision still looked like shit.

Legolas being send to find Aragorn. Would't Aragorn be like not even born yet?
 
Yeah, this was the worst part of the film for me. The moment he gets swallowed by the gold....Wtf.

I mean, I get where they were going but literally all I could think was 'Dental plan...Lisa needs braces...Dental plan...Lisa needs braces' during that scene. All the subtly of a sledgehammer.
 

Rapstah

Member
Where did the giant worms go? Where do they put all of the rock and dirt they eat? It can't come out on the other end because then there wouldn't be a tunnel behind them. The worms crawled back into the holes they made and then orcs came out, so are we to assume the worms dug new tunnels to get back home?
 

DarkFlow

Banned
I'm going to say something absurd now days on the internet. I thought the film was average, not great, not awful, right down the middle.
 
Let's not forget the clone army that made it into the film.

I actually stood up for this when I saw it at first, saying maybe they would randomise the faces in time for the final release...I was wrong.

 
Remember when that main bad guy closed his eyes under the ice and then immediately opened them and stabbed Thorin in the foot?

Was that just meant to get a sigh out of the audience?

Because it sure wasn't meant to get an advantage over Thorin who had yet to stop looking at the guy.
 

Spineker

Banned
Remember when that main bad guy closed his eyes under the ice and then immediately opened them and stabbed Thorin in the foot?

Was that just meant to get a sigh out of the audience?

Because it sure wasn't meant to get an advantage over Thorin who had yet to stop looking at the guy.

Thorin was about as dumb as (GOT spoiler)
The Viper
in that regard as he just stood there watching instead of finishing the fucker
 
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