Considering it took our own forum posters here 8 to 14 hours to beat the game? Yes it's a possibility
And if it is true..
I bet the people crying over "5 hours" can't beat the game in 5 hours.
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Ready at Dawn responds to "concern" over The Order: 1886 campaign length
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And if it is true..
I bet the people crying over "5 hours" can't beat the game in 5 hours.
Of course fanboys exist. They would still be clucking even if the Order was multiplatform - perhaps more so.
Yeah because everybody only talks about games they played. Get outta here with that shit.
Besides, I said what I believed to be the publics opinion. Not my own and yes it appeared to be wrong. I don't know if U1 is something I'd enjoy or not.
YuriLowell
Member
I feel like the order will be 40 bucks within weeks after release.
foxdvd
Member
that games average complete time is 8 hours and 46 minutes according to how long to beat games...with grabbing collectibles making it 10 hours and grabbing all collectibles and playing on the highest difficulty 17 hours.
I feel like the appropriate response from someone who does not think this is not enough time for their money is just to wait. Is that a big deal?
I think how satisfying or fulfilling a game is in its runtime is more important than any counting statistic, but if you need a game to hit a certain benchmark to reach a value threshold for you, then wait.
That's a personal decision. I don't see why it matters to anyone else.
The average time to beat The Order according to our sample size is pretty similar. There's one play through that's 5 hours and then 4-5 around 10 hours.
I think how satisfying or fulfilling a game is in its runtime is more important than any counting statistic, but if you need a game to hit a certain benchmark to reach a value threshold for you, then wait.
That's a personal decision. I don't see why it matters to anyone else.
The average time to beat The Order according to our sample size is pretty similar. There's one play through that's 5 hours and then 4-5 around 10 hours.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
No. It's just over four as far as I remember from the other threads.
So you would rather believe people's word than a guy who actually has hard evidence, in this case the entire playthrough infront of your eyes? You people need to start being less obvious.
They aren't better, they are actually opinions! Metacritic isn't an opinion, a mass of different "subjective minds" doesn't make one whole objective fact.
I mean, I want to know my wife's opinion about a game (she plays) not ones from unknown strangers.
If my nephews told me Knack is great, I would have loved to play it one day, I don't give a fuck about what you think about it or if an objective point exist (there isn't).
And what if you personally enjoy this 5-6 hours game? What if the length, the bars, the QTEs, etc, aren't a problem at all?
What if the game is a blast to enjoy?
I see no reason to suggest they are lying. I think I can believe all of them without my head exploding.
So you played The Order and hated the gameplay? Not all devs have to make the same games. If RAD wanted story as the main focus, so fucking what? Don't like it, don't buy it.
Also, The Order failing would send what kind of message to other devs, exactly? To just keep trying to copy Call of Duty? I hope this game is a huge success so all the people piling on the game can just deal with it.
A lot wouldn't since it wouldn't be exclusive. Fanboys only go to the battle stations over exclusives, not multiplatforms, mostly anyway.
Leafhopper
Banned
I guess so but, I got the Uncharted 1 bundle when I got my PS3 in 2009 for free. Great game and glad I played it, ended up liking the future games but, I probably wouldn't have bought it on it's own, sadly.
As for The Order, I think it really is a pricing thing. I saw Captain Toad comparisons in this thread but that game is $40 bucks (And even then some critics of it said that was probably too much for it). I get the complaints about length but as others have said back in the day you would buy a full price game and it would be maybe 2 hours long if you were lucky and that was it. I personally think it would need a reason to replay it a couple of times but going by how much the story matters and the trophy list I guess there isn't.
If I had a PS4 I certainly wouldn't get it personally, not because of it's length though but because it doesn't really interest me. People seem to really want to play it will probably enjoy it. Don't get mad at people buying video games you don't want to buy and/or play, guys.
Sorry if this stuff has been echoed in the many The Order threads before, this is honestly my first time even posting something this serious in one.
PS: As for their being a video of a playthrough well the devs want you to buy the game, so of course they are going to say it's longer than it is. I mean what else are they going to say?
TheAssist
Member
That means both games are twice as long as The Order. Also you assume everyone who likes these short cinematic games has the money to spend 60-70 euros on them. I'm at university right now, thatswhy I would wait for a pricedrop, I simply cannot afford that little value for that high a price, no matter how much I like these kind of games. And others will have the same problem. Therefore I would suggest a different business model. Also I dont know how profitable David Cage games really are. They take a long time to develop and sell about 1-3 million copies. the margin seems rather small compared to other AAA games. I assumes those game are prestige objects for Sony to show the public how diverse their console is. They probably dont make huge sums of money. Same coould be said for the last guradian and others.
I also like those games and wouldnt want to miss them for the world. I dont know how you got that assumption. Selling those games in a different manner doesnt mean they go away. The opposite actually. If the consumer accept this new business model, more devs and publishers might see these kind of games as a viable option to the genres you mentioned.
If the game is at all good and has some decent gameplays, I hope it sells really well, because I want more short experiences that are tight and focused. Not all of them need to be shooters though.
No they were saying it's impossible to beat in 2-3 hours. This was done earlier in the week and is not a response to the youtuber. Critically I think they game will do fine and commercially it seems to already be doing ok. At the very least Sony will probably start bundling it with consoles as a value add.
I didn't say they were lying. But I kinda trust hard evidence more than words. They probably took their time though, finding all the collectibles etc. which I'm doing as well.
It is just that hard evidence is more reliable. People can lie, and you know that GAF had/has developers and company shills; I remember when bish used to hunt them down. Good times!
It might not be lying either. The poster might simply be mistaken about his play time. As far as I know, we have not seen any TV screen shots or confirmations from these posters besides "It took me x hours to finish the game."
Is it possible that the Youtuber rigged his playthrough? Yes. However, with what we currently have, his playthrough is simply more reliable.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
If we ignore the four GAF users who have played it, sure.
Can I borrow your time machine when you're done?
hooijdonk17
Member
The numbers out there are wrong and we won't tell you how long it is.
Basically, they are probably off by a margin of error, and if they actually gave away the real length we would've been laughing at them and cancelling preorders.
Basically, they are probably off by a margin of error, and if they actually gave away the real length we would've been laughing at them and cancelling preorders.
People watched it though, do you think they were hypnotized so they wont tell that the game is actually longer? Or are there some secret parts of the youtubers playthrough that arent listed on youtube so its actually longer?
TheKastorian
Member
I don't understand all this hate for a game where the developers had a clear vision that did not get sidetracked or blurred by the occasional hater comments. Just enjoy the game, which all things point out to being amazing. As with all the length discussions, to me they seem like hidden fanboy arguments coming from the "non-Playstation gamers" (will not point fingers)
Scully Scully Scoo
Member
well tlou took me around 20 hours to finish and it cost the same price as the order + has multiplayer. a game lasting 6 hours with no multiplayer is a tough sell especially on consoles
multiplayer doesnt have to be included but to substitute for that the devs would have to at least have a beefy campaign because they are charging the same price for the game. and from a concept point of view i think order flat out sucks, not because i dont enjoy playing different kind of games but because other tps like tlou have already shown how u can have good gameplay and story. order is a straight up qte corridor shooting fest that last 6 hours.
because this game is a waste of resoruces
it will probably sell around 1.5/2m over the gen but i dont think we will be getting a sequel
So you don't "trust" them as much then?
Yup. And the flip side is every UbiSoft game ever the past few years, padded with terrible, repetive, non skipable tasks.
Resident Evil REmake is up on PSN and can be speed run in 2 hours. It still blows most SP games out of the water in terms of story and game content.
nevermind...
foxdvd
Member
It will send the wrong message...that a single player experience will not be successful with today's systems. We will get more shoehorned mp experiences that no one wants into our games to justify the game price. If the focus on the Order (and any failure) mentions the fact that it is a short game with no MP....then when the money hats look at the next project, guess what they will do?
I think we just look at dollar values differently then. I regularly buy retro games, for instance, and many of them are extremely short if you look at the overall content within. It's all about how much fun you can get out of each title. The Order may not be able to provide it but I don't like the idea of determining a games quality based on the price to content ratio.
Clarkus Darkus
Member
The eurogamer article has generated more comments than there Evolve review thread. lol
I think that says alot already, I care not for the length squire, I care for the experience.
I think that says alot already, I care not for the length squire, I care for the experience.
Interfectum
Member
Ahh so you're "concerned" about Sony's resource allotment which is why you hate this game so much?
I'm sorry, but 1.5 to 2 mill is not a commercial flop. I'm pretty sure the game will sell 2 mill+ before the end of the year.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
My favorite Uncharted game is the first one.
Some of my PS2 favorite: Silent Hill 2, REZ, ICO, and Metal Gear Solid 2.
Not that I'm saying either way about The Order. But I doubt that playtime is a major issues.
Some of my PS2 favorite: Silent Hill 2, REZ, ICO, and Metal Gear Solid 2.
Not that I'm saying either way about The Order. But I doubt that playtime is a major issues.
HighResTomato
Member
I think I'll just quote my previous posts .
nib95 said:
nib95 said:
nib95 said:
Side note, the videos this guy posted don't even add up to 5 hours, so if you're going to use a somewhat disingenuous barometer that is almost guaranteed to fall well below the average GAF play time, at least get that part right.
Leafhopper
Banned
Same.
And to whoever feels like answering this: I didn't see the playthrough that went up but is the game mostly cutscenes and QTEs like people were afraid of or what? I think that is bigger factor personally.
GutsOfThor
Member
5 and a half hours? I was already going to buy this game used but now I'll just rent it if the campaign is that short.
FlashFlooder
Member
Personally I'd rather play a captivating 5hr game than a 10-20hr game that's padded with boring repetitive side missions, collectibles and fetch quests.
To each his own
To each his own
Scully Scully Scoo
Member
at the launch price point it wont sell very well but after price drops it will eventually reach around 1.5m imo. max 2m through next 3 years. wont be surprised to see this pop up on ps+ early next year
TheChocolateWar
Member
It could potentially matter from a consumer activist point of view depending on how much money rad had to spend on production values, and what that meant for marginal cost per unit of game. I would be horribly bothered if a producer forced us to pay 60$ for something that took 40$ to make. Not that this happened here, merely it is a valid concern.
-MD-
Member
Over 5 hours actually if you're trying to be correct.
Chinese Cartoons
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Dont you love it when people on here damage control certain games they also have the avatar of the game, lol.
thelastword
Banned
Who cares if the game is 6-10hrs, not every tps has to be 20hrs like RE4. With the production values in this game, it's better to have a highly polished, highy detailed game that fits the next gen bill throughout (graphically), than to prop in many filler levels to hit some insane metric.
If it did so, it could very well be that the persons saying it's too short would be the same persons saying that the game has overstayed it's welcome in that scenario.
My advice is to play the game on the 20th if you want or not. So many times, people are going on and on about game completion times prior to release, mostly all the games they spoke about I find that I spend 15-20hrs completing them easy. Wasn't there some talk about TLOU being short prior to release too? I don't bother, I inspect every nook and cranny, I don't speed run games as a hobby and rush to the next one, perhaps such persons should slow down a bit and enjoy the content a bit more.
If it did so, it could very well be that the persons saying it's too short would be the same persons saying that the game has overstayed it's welcome in that scenario.
My advice is to play the game on the 20th if you want or not. So many times, people are going on and on about game completion times prior to release, mostly all the games they spoke about I find that I spend 15-20hrs completing them easy. Wasn't there some talk about TLOU being short prior to release too? I don't bother, I inspect every nook and cranny, I don't speed run games as a hobby and rush to the next one, perhaps such persons should slow down a bit and enjoy the content a bit more.