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The Legend of Zelda Wii U no longer launching In 2015, will not be at E3 this year
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crooked spin
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Obviously I mean "open world" in the modern sense. But I appreciate the pedantic correction.
I have a feeling something like this happened:
e3 2014
Aunoma:
'look what we're doing with Zelda U! We have some great concepts, most of our giant world is mapped out! Our engine is nearly up and running, things are going well, and 14 months from now we should be good to ship!
VGAs 2014
Aunoma:
'Our engine is running and stready, the world is mapped out, and Epona won't run into trees! Check out the world! It's a bit empty, but our designers are now filling it in with side-quests, enemies, dungeons, and NPCs, and we'll show you at e3!'
February 2015
EAD staff:
'hey Aunoma, yeah, things are good, but if we want to do some of our cool concept ideas with side-quests and NPCs, we need a little more time. Also, if we want to make these ZOMG mega dungeons, yeah we need more time or more staff'
March 2015
EAD:
'Hey Monolith, great job on XCX. Now get over here and help on Zelda U filling in this giant world. We need to get this done by fall.'
Monolith:
'cool, why don't we add in some of these UBER giant creatures, and why isn't there a bird for link to fly around on? Woah look at this....we can do some epic shit if we add this....and this...and this'
Aunoma:
'goddamn, that is awesome - although it's not really within our scope or timeline. It's very important we launch this holiday'
Monolith:
'you think that's awesome? Well, we learned a little something on XCX, give us a minute....here....watch this-
*shows Aunoma*
Aunoma:
Aunoma:
Screw the release date. Let's make the ultimate Zelda.
e3 2014
Aunoma:
'look what we're doing with Zelda U! We have some great concepts, most of our giant world is mapped out! Our engine is nearly up and running, things are going well, and 14 months from now we should be good to ship!
VGAs 2014
Aunoma:
'Our engine is running and stready, the world is mapped out, and Epona won't run into trees! Check out the world! It's a bit empty, but our designers are now filling it in with side-quests, enemies, dungeons, and NPCs, and we'll show you at e3!'
February 2015
EAD staff:
'hey Aunoma, yeah, things are good, but if we want to do some of our cool concept ideas with side-quests and NPCs, we need a little more time. Also, if we want to make these ZOMG mega dungeons, yeah we need more time or more staff'
March 2015
EAD:
'Hey Monolith, great job on XCX. Now get over here and help on Zelda U filling in this giant world. We need to get this done by fall.'
Monolith:
'cool, why don't we add in some of these UBER giant creatures, and why isn't there a bird for link to fly around on? Woah look at this....we can do some epic shit if we add this....and this...and this'
Aunoma:
'goddamn, that is awesome - although it's not really within our scope or timeline. It's very important we launch this holiday'
Monolith:
'you think that's awesome? Well, we learned a little something on XCX, give us a minute....here....watch this-
*shows Aunoma*
Aunoma:
Aunoma:
Screw the release date. Let's make the ultimate Zelda.
Then that would be Xenoblade X.
TWW was delayed in North America until March 2003. At E3 2002, Gamecube looked unstoppable with Mario Sunshine, Metroid, and Zelda all coming that year. Wasn't gonna happen. They still cut dungeons from TWW, and even the HD remake on WiiU felt unfinished to me. It's always been a disappointing Zelda to me for that reason. So empty and easy.
I have a feeling something like this happened:
e3 2014
Aunoma:
'look what we're doing with Zelda U! We have some great concepts, most of our giant world is mapped out! Our engine is nearly up and running, things are going well, and 14 months from now we should be good to ship!
VGAs 2014
Aunoma:
'Our engine is running and stready, the world is mapped out, and Epona won't run into trees! Check out the world! It's a bit empty, but our designers are now filling it in with side-quests, enemies, dungeons, and NPCs, and we'll show you at e3!'
February 2015
EAD staff:
'hey Aunoma, yeah, things are good, but if we want to do some of our cool concept ideas with side-quests and NPCs, we need a little more time. Also, if we want to make these ZOMG mega dungeons, yeah we need more time'
March 2015
EAD:
'Hey Monolith, great job on XCX. Now get over here and help on Zelda U filling in this giant world.'
Monolith:
'cool, why don't we add in some of these UBER giant creatures, and why isn't their a bird for link to fly around on? Woah look at this....we can do some epic shit if we add this....and this...and this'
Aunoma:
'goddamn, that is awesome - although it's not really within our scope or timeline. It's very important we launch this holiday'
Monolith:
'you think that's awesome? Well, we learned a little something on XCX, give us a minute....here....watch this-
*shows Aunoma*
Aunoma:
Aunoma:
Screw the release date. Let's make the ultimate Zelda.
Hahaha, I hope something like this DID happen
Nintendojitsu
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hatchx' post is best post!
Hahaha, I hope something like this DID happen
It would make sense why they might not show us anything at e3. Monolith helped finish up Skyward Sword too, although I think it was mostly art assets.
I don't think this is the situation like SS, where they had to toy with the control mechanics forever. The world in Zelda U is there, the engine is up-and-running, and Aunoma's recent comments about 'new ideas' and 'ultimate zelda' give me hope.
Let's not forget GTAV sold 45 million and Skyrim over 20 million. If Nintendo can nail that level of scope, it won't matter if it helps WiiU sales, it'll skyrocket the Zelda brand and they'll be able to re-sell/remaster it for decades. I don't think Nintendo develops games within the bubble of selling hardware, they want their games to be cherished forever.
ReyVGM
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August 2005
http://www.ign.com/articles/2005/08/16/zelda-delayed-to-next-year
History is repeating, guys.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2005/08/16/zelda-delayed-to-next-year
History is repeating, guys.
Both of these were delayed.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03...for-wii-u-has-been-delayed#comment-1932278145
A Link to the Past was also apparently delayed in Japan: http://www.glitterberri.com/a-link-to-the-past/development-interview/ ("Id wanted to release the game this March, but the release date was extended to summer vacation and, in the end, it came out for the Super Nintendos 1 year anniversary. [laughs]")
It's just tradition at this point.
Mango The Magician
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About ten pages back bub. ;P
Anyways, I still can't rationalize what they must be adding for such a delay, and honestly I think the excuse is just a delay for the sake of hiding that they actually ran into development issues, so don't expect a massively different game or anything.
That would blow up in their faces.
Zelda U will be about the Four Links riding on Epona through Hyrule.
Mango The Magician
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Zelda, as sheik, would be Links Rival character.
Mango The Magician
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As in Pokemon? Because I was thinking more along the lines of like 3D World or Galaxy 2 where both characters are playable at anytime.
Anyways, like I said this topic inevitably appeared earlier in the thread, and we, mostly I so sorry, already got off-topic once, no need to do it again.
Oh and on topic, I really wish this was a joke, I'm tired of waiting for this game.
Chû Totoro
Member
I only see F-Zero as something possible though...
I'm sad Zelda won't make it this year. It's not like I won't have other games to play but I'm tired of waiting for games being announced too soon. Of course we always know a Zelda game is coming on every Nintendo platform but don't communicate any release window till you're sure it won't change, more importantly when it's coming the year after even if it end up being 6 month.
I'm sad, just sad :'(
BertramCooper
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I just hope they don't hold on to the game until Holiday 2016 if it's going to be completed long before that. Any chance of the game being a holiday system seller is going to be dead and buried with grass growing on top by that point.
If it's done by next spring, for the love of god, give it to us ASAP.
If it's done by next spring, for the love of god, give it to us ASAP.
Spieler Eins
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ReyVGM
Member
LMAO!!!
It'll be November '16. Don't get your hopes up...again.
ShockingAlberto
Member
That's the other Monolithsoft, the one that doesn't make their own games anymore. They only do asset creation.
It's sort of like saying Retro developed Mario Kart 7 or that Monster Games made Tropical Freeze.
Bad examples. Both companies did a lot more than you probably think for those games.
BertramCooper
Banned
I know. :-(
GreatestHits
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I love deve delays. I hate rushed games. To me this is the best news that could've happened to this game. Then again, I'm also not a youngster gamer anymore...
StreetsAhead
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Actually, SS was done by Monolith Tokyo (the Xenoblade team). The Kyoto Studio that does asset creation wasn't established until October 2011.
While Monolith Kyoto is probably already on Zelda U, but I guess it is possible that the Xenoblade X team is also helping too, given the similar scopes.
Elfforkusu
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... and there it is.
Get hyped for Zelda NX in November 2016!
(not all bad. Depends on what their new console looks like from a control/design perspective... and we might have a new 3D Mario to go with it...)
GreatestHits
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Not releasing a main Zelda for WiiU would be very un-Nintendo like, although I'm sure you were being sarcastic
Mr. Saturn
Member
Well I think when most people talk about Zelda being moved to their next console, they're talking about a cross gen sort of situation. That's my opinion at least, I can't speak for the person you quoted.
zelda is probably cross gen. the wii u will get a zelda.
It'd still make history as the first Nintendo console not to have a Zelda all its own. With Twilight Princess, the Gamecube could still claim to have received Wind Waker exclusively.
Mind you, if cross platform does happen, I personally wouldn't mind it, and would even get it in the successor. But I do think goodwill would be lost with many fans.
metalslimer
Member
The strange thing about this is not the delay, it's the fact that it won't even show up at E3. Either Miyamoto upended the tea table on the direction was going or it's going to show up as an NX cross gen game next E3. I could certainly see the game getting a big overhaul
that would be utterly irrational of them. any extra development time would benefit all versions of the game, and they would still get the game they were promised. getting pissy because it's available on another nintendo system is dumb. and buying systems for unreleased games is really super dumb.
Mango The Magician
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So is there not a american version of that video? I didn't watch it yesterday so I figured I'd try to watch it today.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Monolith likely subcontracted a ton of companies to even make Xenoblade Chronicles X, I doubt they would have any free artists and animators to lend over this time. Also, I fully expect some type of DLC following the main release of Xenoblade X. They totally have to monetize that small consumer base.
Could even be the case that Monolith Kyoto is assisting on Animal Crossing U, while perhaps Aonuma contracts Imagica-Digitalscape for the additional texture artists and modelers (like Wind Waker HD).
Pankratous
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StreetsAhead
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Oh, I mean it's a (slim) possibility that they've brought some XCX team members on to help as of now/a month or two ago, given that XCX's development is largely complete.
Don't get me wrong, though, I don't think Monolith Tokyo helping on Zelda is particularly likely, merely a possibility that they're one of a number of 'helpers'.
Regardless, you're right; both Monolith and EAD will be using sub-contracting for a lot of the development of both titles.
Wii U would still get a major Zelda game, I don't think that would irritate the fanbase that much. Now, if they actually dropped the Wii U version entirely...THAT would result in an important loss of goodwill.
Also, we live in an age where there would be other ways to lessen the loss of goodwill caused by Zelda Wii U not being only for Wii U
Like making the game cross-buy: you buy the game on Wii U? You get the next handheld (NX) version for free!
I wonder if it's possible they'll still show a trailer, and what they meant was that it wouldn't be playable.
I can't imagine they've decided all the ins-and-outs of the E3 Direct, but to prepare a playable demo is probably something they didn't see the point of. I can imagine seeing a new trailer, maybe the name reveal.
....I'm grasping at straws here.
For me it comes down to the quality of Starfox. I don't care for an inevitable Animal Crossing U, and I doubt they have anything else big in the pipeline. If Starfox looks nice and includes all of that co-op, ground + air gameplay with Miyamoto quality....it could be something worthy of the November slot.
maquiladora
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dampflokfreund
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Didn't Miyamoto said Starfox is episodic and a low budget game?
maquiladora
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I remember something about "primetime" missions and "latenight" minigames.
I'm hoping Starfox turns out good, but it's not one of Nintendo's premiere titles. They blew their load already with Mario, Smash Bros. (and Mario Kart if you wanna count that), so the only major title left was Zelda. I honestly have no idea what the hell Nintendo's thinking not showing the game. This E3 has the potential to be even worse and more embarrassing than Nintendo's absolutely pathetic 2003 showing.
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