DarkLordMalik
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I have been satisfied with plenty of console ports, even Watchdogs. I just had hoped we got a solid port this time around. Not every port is bad.
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Digital Foundry Face-Off: The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (PC/PS4/XB1)
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ArchedThunder
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I wouldn't call this a bad port...
FranXico
Member
AMD might not be technically lying, if NVIDIA GameWorks dictated the game engine development and AMD-based platforms were an afterthought. The claim is just exaggeration and drama on their end.
In a sense, one can say NVIDIA Gameworks sabotages any games running on AMD hardware no more than DirectX sabotages PS4 development.
Sephiroth_GR_
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Watch Dogs was designed with 2005 hardware in mind too. Comparing apples to oranges.
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Never disputed the closeness of consoles to each other compared to pc.
What I'm questioning is why that XB1 image is much blurrier than the res drop would normally suggest compared to other games with similar res gap.
spons
Gold Member
They could in the very least dump the higher quality textures on PS4 because of the massive amount of combined high-speed RAM available. I agree that the CPUs of the current consoles are lacking but some choices are dubious.
DOWN
Banned
I didn't just magically shop up a pic. It's from the game and it looked like that all day long in game in White Orchard. And I used USB upload to sidestep a layer of compression, not much more I can do and clarity is hardly the issue with the graphics. I haven't bothered to take more images because it frankly isn't inspiring me and has no photo mode for whatever reason, but apparently I'll have to. I'm not the type who can pretend the bad graphics aren't there. There are certainly times when the art stands out, but no way in hell is that shot a worst case scenario for the graphics. That's a desperate excuse.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Tiny text
Sub 30 fps performance
Very low quality shadows
Game crashes and bugs from day 1
Yes, it is a bad port
Dictator93
Member
Wouuld you mind posting the .ini tweaks you are using? I would love to see their effect on performance! (If i remember right, shadow draw distance and grass distance have the greatest visual efffect)
edit: Oh, the bad port people are already here.
My first thought would be yes, but then you had people in the GTA V threads say they couldn't really tell any difference between ultra 4K maxed PC and PS4 whereas they could easily see the difference between PS4 and Xbox One so you never know.
Agreed. Already you're seeing even PS4 be outclassed with low/medium specs and builds, I'd say it won't be long until both consoles left in the dust by what PC is capable of.
SOOO happy that I'll play this on PC. If you are an enthusiast like me (let's face it, if you're on GAF you probably are) then do yourself a favor and experience this game the way it was meant to be played. On PC. Don't settle for low density NPCs, shitty shadows, LOW settings mixed in with medium. Get something with actual teeth. Get a BEAST. Buy a PC.
It really doesn't.
EatChildren
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I made these amendments to the config file.
Code:
[Rendering]
GrassDensity=3600
CascadeShadowFadeTreshold=0.5
CascadeShadowDistanceScale0=4
CascadeShadowDistanceScale1=4
CascadeShadowDistanceScale2=3
CascadeShadowDistanceScale3=3
MaxTerrainShadowAtlasCount=8
CascadeShadowQuality=4
[Rendering/SpeedTree]
FoliageDistanceScale=2
GrassDistanceScale=4
FoliageShadowDistanceScale=108Many of these are set to 1 on Ultra, so in some cases I've tripled or quadrupled. My performance hit is heavier for that reason. But lower values (still higher than ultra) aren't bad. Check the Geforce tweak guide for examples.
Very surprised consoles do not use PC's ultra textures (no difference between high and ultra except the latter stores more textures in your VRAM to prevent hitching).
Sharpening looks awful but the texture difference remains :
If anything, the two screenshots between the PS4 and PC here signify to me that the differences are pretty minimal aside from the slightly crisper textures on the PC side.
Opening up the images in separate tabs and switching between them, I really don't see the so-called gulf in quality. Not at all.
Alkastelca
Member
Tiny text
Sub 30 fps performance
Very low quality shadows
Game crashes and bugs from day 1
Yes, it is a bad port
This
+ completely fucked up camera with horrible stutter.
Blackthorn
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I've seen you in every Witcher thread posting the same screenshot, shitting on the graphics and making ludicrous claims about how bad the game looks. It's getting tiring.
Anyway, the reality seems to be CDProjekt did a great job on every platform, their limitations taken into account, especially considering the scale and technical ambition of the game, including the best dynamic lighting I've seen in an open world.
I'm playing on PS4 and I'm frequently astounded by how the game looks and the atmosphere it creates. I'd like everyone else who plays to feel the same.
Why would anyone want the alternative? Why would anyone want the game to bad on any platoform where there's an audience for it? It's a mentality I can't understand.
Edit: Didn't see even the worst posts here before I posted. Oh well.
Mohonky
Member
It honestly does this on my PC, but fraps is reporting a solidly locked 30fps.
No idea what is causing it, but for a game utterly locked at 30fps, and when it is also unlocked and running 40+ up to 50fps, the game has a weird stutter for me also. The jumps arent as big as in that video but it is definitely there. It is definitely not the smoothest 30fps I have ever seen and I don't know what is causing it, hardware or software.
I just remember thinking man this game must be running like ass with frequent 20fps drops or something, but nope, I turned my detail levels up and unlocked the frame rate and I was actually getting double what I figured the frame rate might actually be even at the lower settings. So I don't understand it.
I believe it. Nvidia have always been a shady company in my eyes, wrought with stuff like this. Whilst I appreciate both have been responsible for shady shenanigans, I feel Nvidia takes it to greater heights. My future GPU's will likely be AMD cards even if the Nvidia counterpart offers slightly better performance. I value ethics and the future of the GPU industry more than just outright performance. If AMD do ever leave the GPU race, we're fucked.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Tiny text
Sub 30 fps performance
Very low quality shadows
Game crashes and bugs from day 1
Yes, it is a bad port
Yikes, I thought CDPR was better then this.
Is Nvidia or AMD paying you for this post? Some people prefer to play on console, is it really that hard to understand?
It's alright if you are not sensitive to graphics at all. Some would even go as far as calling that a blessing.
You might notice a slight decrease in the number of NPCs though. ;-)
Risk Breaker
Member
Yeah, same here. It's still pretty much the same game.
Haha, holy shit. I was looking at graphics (AF especially) and totally missed that.
Save up man. I've been putting away money for several months and will have enough for a monster this fall. It just takes a little here an a little there. Once I get everything together I'll show you how much it is and hopefully you'll be inspired.
BuffetChamp
Banned
Just bought it on Steam and didn't really want to since its gonna take me all weekend to grab it,damn slow internet. Was this close to buying the game for the X1 the other night because of that very reason, but I decided to wait abit longer and think about it. But sorta glad I went PC now. I just hate waiting so long to download this. Console versions still look good though, DF loves to play all this up,heh. Noone needs to feel bad, we all got a great sexy looking game. What counts really.
The framerate alone is worth it. Let's not even mention how much better it looks, even with regular settings to ultra and effects activated. And if you factor in .ini tweaks and mods, it will look even better.
DOWN
Banned
I didn't want it to look bad. I literally bought the game and was disappointed by how it really turned out. That's my screenshot from my copy that I paid money for.
Read this thread. There's a bunch of people saying it is a bad console port and doesn't look good. The graphics aren't good for this gen. Not sorry that my screenshot being repeated in repeating variations of W3 graphics threads are getting to you. I posted the shot so that I don't have to just make claims about the graphics. Others are doing it plenty so you can move on from my comments.
EatChildren
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derExperte
Member
Yeah, you would've totally built a PC if the differences in this picture would've been bigger. Sure.
Also that comparison is mostly for textures (bad AF is as usual the most obvious problem) since the viewing distance isn't very high.
PC throwing shade
Yes, the differences seem to be really pronounced when it comes to draw distance. Lack of far-away shadows is a bummer, but I still think both versions look great.
I don't know, maybe I had my expectations set to 'realistic' beforehand. Really don't think those differences in graphical quality impact the experience of playing game enough to warrant a PC.
CerebralTiger
Member
Reminds me of the MGSV: Ground Zeroes comparison gif.
RedAssedApe
Banned
are those who are saying the console versions look like garbage playing the game? don't think the screenshots do much justice at all.
the game looks great more often than not. performance is another story though.
the game looks great more often than not. performance is another story though.
Tiny text
Sub 30 fps performance
Very low quality shadows
Game crashes and bugs from day 1
Yes, it is a bad port
Can you name a single open world game on the consoles that doesn't ever dip below 30fps? On the whole W3's console performance is well above average, it's just the frame pacing and buffering/v-sync that is a problem. Shadow quality also seems comparable in most instances to PC ultra, on all but more ranged objects.
I don't personally think the game is particularly awe inspiring graphically, but I think a large part of that is because I dislike the overly colourful and cartoony art style.
On a side note, I've not had any issues with small text. I suppose it depends on the size of your TV.
DOWN
Banned
Looks bad in screenshots, looks bad in play performance lol. So when does it look good? Nobody has shown me and the game certainly is determined not to show me.
GoonerTRON
Banned
Riding your horse though forest with the landscape pretty much going on forever with a sunset gleaming though a rain storm is pretty damn impressive.
This game generally does not screenshot well, sadly.
The graphics certainly are not 'oh my god jaw dropping' for the most part, I agree, especially with certain technical aspects, but overall I find it a pretty beautiful game to actually play and the sheer scale of the game does give it some excuses. As ever, giant open world games require sacrifices.
Whelp, it does seem like the PS4 version is a mix of mostly medium and high. Disappointing, but the differences of the PS4 version and the PC on Ultra are not very significant aside from Hairworks, resolution, frame rate and ambient occlusion. No shame in admitting I was wrong. Still, I'll wait for NXGamer's analysis for further confirmation.
I'm waiting for some people to mock you now.
(Even though you categorically didnt compare PS4 & Xbox One)
EatChildren
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Thing is, draw distance and LOD of more or less everything in the rendering engine (assets, lighting, shadows, decals, tessellation, bells, whistles, dinosaurs, chicken nuggets, etc) is the easiest thing to scale back on dated hardware (including PC configurations) for massive performance gains, and is where console hardware will always suffer most compared to a platform like PC which has no ceiling.
Long and short of it (literally); rendering a lot of stuff over a long distance has always been very, very expensive. So it's not really surprising this is where both the PS4 and Xbone builds suffer hardest. It'll be the same for every open world game.
Long and short of it (literally); rendering a lot of stuff over a long distance has always been very, very expensive. So it's not really surprising this is where both the PS4 and Xbone builds suffer hardest. It'll be the same for every open world game.
FunkyPajamas
Member
Damn. This is making me want to get a new gaming PC. Very very good.
... There's more than just slightly crisper texture difference here.
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