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Splatoon | Review Thread

AniHawk

Member
Gamerankings is so much better than Metacritic IMO.

http://www.gamerankings.com/wii-u/805617-splatoon/index.html

yeah i'll take straight up averages over weird weighting system any day.

the weighting system might work if it was actually following reviewers around and not the sites they post the reviews on.

anyway, this is about the reception i expected for the game? maybe a little more positive. i think spla2n will be the one that everyone falls in love with, like pikmin 2.
 

AniHawk

Member
Two things of note, 1) Gamerankings still doesn't count some scores, 2) Regardless of the "weird weighting system," Splatoon has the same number on both sides!

i don't actually care about the splatoon rating. i just prefer the gamerankings method. just talking straight up math here.
 

Chindogg

Member
They are really close on pretty much every game. What's the difference?

No weighted system. They haven't completely updated the page yet with all the newer reviews. Give it a day or two and it should be far more accurate with everyone else in account.
 
Gamerankings is so much better than Metacritic IMO.

http://www.gamerankings.com/wii-u/805617-splatoon/index.html

yeah i'll take straight up averages over weird weighting system any day.

the weighting system might work if it was actually following reviewers around and not the sites they post the reviews on.

anyway, this is about the reception i expected for the game? maybe a little more positive. i think spla2n will be the one that everyone falls in love with, like pikmin 2.
both have Splatoon on 81different system same results kinda kills the point being made
 
yeah i'll take straight up averages over weird weighting system any day.

the weighting system might work if it was actually following reviewers around and not the sites they post the reviews on.

anyway, this is about the reception i expected for the game? maybe a little more positive. i think spla2n will be the one that everyone falls in love with, like pikmin 2.


I am ashamed

ashamedly in love with Spla2n

I can't unsee what u did there
 

DryvBy

Member
I wasn't expecting reviews this high. I personally don't know a single person irl that played that Test and came back saying, "I want more of this!". I was super hyped until I played it. I hated just about my entire experience with the hour I played.

Good job with the reviews. Guess this game just isn't for me.
 

Jintor

Member
I wasn't expecting reviews this high. I personally don't know a single person irl that played that Test and came back saying, "I want more of this!". I was super hyped until I played it. I hated just about my entire experience with the hour I played.

Good job with the reviews. Guess this game just isn't for me.

i'm so sorry for your loss :<
 
No weighted system. They haven't completely updated the page yet with all the newer reviews. Give it a day or two and it should be far more accurate with everyone else in account.
"Far more accurate" how? They're both at 81 right now. I'm having trouble sleeping so I went ahead and took a completely unscientific sample of three games from five systems (PS3, PS4, Wii U, 3DS, PSV) based on the first three games that came to mind:
Uncharted 2
Metacritic: 96, Gamerankings: 96.43
Puppeteer
Metacritic: 80, Gamerankings: 81.65
The Last of Us
Metacritic: 95, Gamerankings: 95.09

Driveclub
Metacritic: 71, Gamerankings: 70.55
Infamous: Second Son
Metacritic: 80, Gamerankings: 80.57
Bloodborne
Metacritic: 92, Gamerankings: 90.66

DKCTF
Metacritic: 83, Gamerankings: 84.46
Pikmin 3
Metacritic: 87, Gamerankings: 86.59
Hyrule Warriors
Metacritic: 76, Gamerankings: 77.33

Fire Emblem: Awakening
Metacritic: 92, Gamerankings: 92.52
A Link Between Worlds
Metacritic: 91, Gamerankings: 90.55
Bravely Default
Metacritic: 85, Gamerankings: 85.14

Persona 4: Golden
Metacritic: 93, Gamerankings: 94.16
Freedom Wars
Metacritic: 73, Gamerankings: 74.2
Soul Sacrifice Delta
Metacritic: 82, Gamerankings: 83.11

The difference across most of these games is llike .77 points/percent in their score. I don't foresee Splatoon suddenly rising in score on Gamerankings in opposition to Metacritic. Given the .77 difference and it's current score, that makes it likely to land around a 81.89. I'm not convinced that a 81.89 is somehow "far more accurate."
 
I don't see what's "shady" about it or how it's "censoring" anything. There does have to be some valuation of "worth" going on. The problem as a review aggregator is how to determine which sites are worth factoring into the average. They can't just let any Joe Schmoe make it into the aggregator. What would be the value in that? Do you really just want an unvetted process?

Yes, because evaluating a reviewer as legitimate or a "Joe Schmoe" should be left up to the reader, not the aggregator. There shouldn't be any subjective opinion in averaging subjective numbers. It's not like this is some deeply complicated mathematical theory; they're just adding up all the numbers and getting an average. I don't need some Joe Schmoe at Metacritic telling me whose writing is more important.
 
Yes, because evaluating a reviewer as legitimate or a "Joe Schmoe" should be left up to the reader, not the aggregator. There shouldn't be any subjective opinion in averaging subjective numbers. It's not like this is some deeply complicated mathematical theory; they're just adding up all the numbers and getting an average. I don't need some Joe Schmoe at Metacritic telling me whose writing is more important.
Solution: Don't use Metacritic.

I'm not a huge fan of the aggregators anyways, but I'm not sure what you people think these sites should do. Accept any review from any website that submits a score and put it under the critic category? Gee whiz, that sure sounds helpful! So some high school kid running a website with 20 viewers a day should clearly have the same merit as a critic as Jim Sterling. Yup. Great idea.

Oh wait, there's already a section for any old Joe Schmoe to submit their score: the user score!
 

mclem

Member
The Eurogamer in-progress commentary I posted about earlier in the thread doesn't seem to have been added to the OP.

Eurogamer has early impressions - they've taken to delaying reviews until they get a chance to look at the game for a bit longer, so no full appraisal yet. They seem a bit tepid about it.
 

Manoko

Member
The lack of party chat is the biggest letdown for me. Please add it.

They probably won't. Nintendo is stubborn on those things.

I also wish they would. Voice chat, and a modern online infrastructure (not something as poor as they currently offer in the game) would go a long way into establishing Splatoon as one of the best multiplayer IP for the future.
 
Wow, I didn't know that. Considering how much importance people seem to give metacritic that's pretty damned shady imo. It's like censoring opinions of people they don't deem "worthy" enough.

You know there are more reviews on metacrit than there are in the op right? 39 reviews vs 35
 

SgtCobra

Member
He's (and many others in here) talking about the average you get from the OP, which contains ALL of the reviews and not just the ones Metacritic counts or has, at current, updated.
Oh okay, people are still going to look at Metacritic/Gamerankings as those are the industry standard when it comes to review scores and not a GAF thread.
 

herod

Member
No weighted system. They haven't completely updated the page yet with all the newer reviews. Give it a day or two and it should be far more accurate with everyone else in account.

then we can do the sensible thing and take the average of gamerankings and metacritic and divide them by 20 and round to the nearest whole number to get a much more sensible idea of the overall opinion.
 

mnz

Unconfirmed Member
then we can do the sensible thing and take the average of gamerankings and metacritic and divide them by 20 and round to the nearest whole number to get a much more sensible idea of the overall opinion.
That's probably bad, too, since a 2 on a 5 star system is maybe a 50-60 on a 100 point scale. It's all fucked. Scores are dumb.
 

Chaos17

Member
Maybe the reviewers are not the only who are thirsty.

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7AM mark. In an hour the line can move across the street and wait by the #NintendoWorld Store for the #Splatoon #WiiU midnight release.
http://delildel.tumblr.com/post/120097071780/7am-mark-in-an-hour-the-line-can-move-across-the
 
IGN whines about that it needs more content even though more content is already slated to be added in the coming months
Edit: I know they aren't reviewing what's not in the game yet, but they score they give it now is the score people are going to remember, not the score they might ive it after the new modes are added
Then every outlet shouldn't review Splatoon at all. You can't make a review based on something you haven't seen/played yet. So if reviewing what they are selling in the store is "wrong," then they should just not review the game at all, which is a far worse fate, considering the review scores it's getting currently.
 
I was under the impression that the higher level weapon sets are just for variety. Like the stat distributions are different, but the beginning weapons would be just as viable in ranked battles as they are to a level 1. The other sets just give you different ways to play, that are perhaps better suited for a certain purpose, but the basic sets are good for a basic purpose and can still serve the team well.

I may be wrong though, just the impression I got from skimming the spoiler thread.

No, I'm pretty sure that's how it is. TF2 does it the same way, the default weapons in the game are viable (and some consider them the best anyway), but the droppable weapons provide alternate stats and tactics.
 

superbank

The definition of front-butt.
And none of them really matters in my experience. A level 1 in Splatoon can compete against higher levels. You just have to play matches to unlock the new weapons.

I hope I have your experience. Certainly I can see a Level 1 build competing with a Level 20, the basic game mechanics and how you use them are ultimately more important than new weapons or perks, but if you want a specific build you're gonna have to do some grinding. You'll have fun playing the matches to gain level/points/sea snails but then comes the time where you try to set specific sub-perks, and it's a high stakes dice roll. That sits in stark contrast to the beautifully crafted mechanics of the multiplayer.
 

phanphare

Banned
A quasi review from Canada's National Post (Financial Post) newspaper.

A guy interviews his 10-year-old daughter about her impressions of the game and first time playing an online shooter.

http://business.financialpost.com/f...st-online-competitive-shooter?__lsa=ff01-07d5

wow this is a really great read. so many little tidbits to take away.

I loved this exchange

I mean does it get you keyed up? Excited. Really into the action.

Yes! Very much. When I lose I get very mad. And I just want to start again. I want to play repeatedly. It's weird. I think I talk to the TV a lot when I play.

Yeah, I noticed. Once when you got hit by an opponent you shouted: "I hate this game! But I love it. Why?!"


also her not knowing what "immersion" meant and the rest of that exchange was pretty funny. "I don't want to feel like I'm covered in paint" was part of her dismissal of immersion, lol.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
I left this topic yesterday with many people truly focusing on the first 7.5 score, a lot of positive impressions by other magazines/sites despite some doubts, pending reviews and so on. I open the OP today and BAM all those perfect or very high scores.
Can't wait for my copy to arrive tomorrow!
 

TheJoRu

Member
A quasi review from Canada's National Post (Financial Post) newspaper.

A guy interviews his 10-year-old daughter about her impressions of the game and first time playing an online shooter.

http://business.financialpost.com/f...st-online-competitive-shooter?__lsa=ff01-07d5

I really like Splatoon a lot. But I feel like if I told the other kids that I was playing Splatoon they might not think it was all that great. Because it&#8217;s Nintendo, and they think Nintendo is for kids. And it doesn&#8217;t have blood and guts. And even if it was fun, they wouldn&#8217;t admit it. Because they want to seem more grown up.

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Depressing stuff.

Cute article otherwise, though. :)
 
So, the non-gaming websites gave it high scores, but the non-gaming sites are going low, primarily because of the lack of voice chat and the fact that the game is unfinished.

I think I'm going to wait for a deal to pick it up. If the game is 80% done, I'm only going to pay 80% for it.

Edit: Wait, I forgot, I have GCU. Well, 85% ain't bad.
 
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