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SHENMUE 3 kickstarter (PC/PS4) - FINAL DAY - NEW KS RECORD GO GO GO!
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i'll say it as many times as i need to, awesome japan does not reflect on yu suzuki.
at all. he was the most calm, collected, and natural during the whole of the Q&A livestream, and the properly translated answers reveal that he's well aware of what he's doing in terms of development.
That's my plan. I'll get the PC collector's edition with my pledge and buy the PS4 version when it comes out. I'll probably buy two copies if a boxed PS4 version comes out.
Die Squirrel Die
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I say this as someone who has been keeping a fairly comprehensive spreadsheet tracking hourly funding changes (I've missed a handful here and there, and obviously don't update when I'm asleep) for the last 11 days, until we get some movement on new funding tiers, or even a sense of an increased focus on pushing the campaign from Ys Net and Awesome Japan, people need to be prepared for a rough ride.
If people don't think they can handle that, they maybe need to exercise some self-discipline and keep that browser page that's been locked on the Kickstarter page closed.
pretty much how i'm feeling right now. i know there won't be much progression until the last big surge. i think that'll at least send it over 6 million though.
Acquiescence
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Has this article been posted already? It's a few days old so probably.
Why is everybody so excited? WHAT'S A SHENMUE?
It's an educational read for the newcomers curious as to what the big deal is surrounding Shenmue. And for the fans, it's another reminded of why we hold the series so dear to our hearts.
Why is everybody so excited? WHAT'S A SHENMUE?
It's an educational read for the newcomers curious as to what the big deal is surrounding Shenmue. And for the fans, it's another reminded of why we hold the series so dear to our hearts.
I'll have what I get from Kickstarter, and then I'll probably buy a physical PS4 copy for collection's sake. Who knows, maybe another 10 years and Shenmue 4 comes out, and then Shenmue 3 will become highly sought after. Having the game on PSN will at least make it easier for people to jump in, compared to what we have to do now to play the previous Shenmue games.
On a side note, I'm bummed because the second disc of my copy of Shenmue 2 has scratches in it. I'm going to try to repair it but I don't think there is any saving it. Dreamcast won't even recognize it.
It's been a really disappointing campaign. That goes without saying.
I have to admit though, I thought there were a few more Shenmue fans out there waiting for this. Now though, I think there's probably only been 50k people clamouring for this all along. Surely, there can't be any fans out there just sat on their hands at this point.
I have to admit though, I thought there were a few more Shenmue fans out there waiting for this. Now though, I think there's probably only been 50k people clamouring for this all along. Surely, there can't be any fans out there just sat on their hands at this point.
Yeah, I don't see how any Shenmue fans couldn't have already pledged.
As has been said numerous times, the amount of people who donate on a kickstarter does not equal the entire fanbase, or the amount of people who are at least interested in it.
In fact, I'd say that this is a pretty impressive number for such an obscure game series that can't easily be played today. It's true though, that AJ needs to continue to do more things to bring people in. It can be done.
Unfortunately, I think the best scenario would have been to have Sega release HD 1 & 2 before the kickstarter. That would have caused a LOT of new people to be exposed to the series. But that's not something we can change now. Hopefully we will get them down the road.
Acquiescence
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Huge fan of Shenmue since day one, and I haven't pledged yet. Still waiting on the promise of a PS4 physical copy, but if that doesn't come to fruition then I'll just put my money towards a reward that already exists at some point during the last day.
I stand corrected then. As long as you donate before the end, you can still claim your Shenmue fandom.
Huge shenmue fan here waiting on a ps4 disc based version but if that doesn't work out I'll just get the PC version in the last few days
even speaking anecdotally, i know many people who haven't yet or may not pledge despite being fans.
your posts in this thread are always along the lines of "wow this kickstarter is run badly" and "guess there aren't that many shenmue fans after all".
i wonder why. are you stuck in the echo chamber or are you just driveby posting for the sake of it?
Yeah, I'm sure there are a good number of people who played the game back in the day that just don't keep up with gaming like us. I wish there was some way to get more people aware of this project.
And some people just don't want to put money into a Kickstarter. I know quite a few of them myself. I've also seen comments from Shenmue fans who don't want to pledge on Kickstarter because they feel like they're being ripped off (all those new stretch goals turned quite a few people off).
Me ? I pledged as soon as I got back from the Sony conference (you could see me standing up for Yu Suzuki on the Sony stream). I just want the game to be made and to be as good as it can be.
I just think this KS has been rushed out of the door for Sony conference and they were simply not ready.
But it's still going to reach 4m in the next few days and easily surpass 5m by the end.
Btw I still haven't pledged
Yeah. I have pledged, but my pledge remains at the $29 level. I will gladly increase it for physical PS4. I would increase it upwards to $175 if one of those tiers includes the PS4 physical.
After hearing a number of you saying you haven't pledged yet, I think they are sitting on a really huge potential boost with the PS4 physical copy. If there is only one more change they ever would make to the kickstarter, better it be that than anything thing else. We're talking hundreds of thousands of a boost.
Kwansu Dudes
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I recall reading that some countries can't use a CC on kickstarter so there's probably a good chunk of people waiting for PayPal support. Doubt it'll go to 10m but its better than nothing.
Oh, so that guy standing in the crowd that looked completely astounded was you?
Die Squirrel Die
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I'm only at $29, but I'm definitely going to $160 by the end, but I'm waiting until the $30 on the 3rd to increase, and who knows maybe beyond I'm still working out how much more I can possibly pledge and weighing that against the rewards.
Will the boost be enough to cover manufacturing costs though?
John Bender
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Well, I have 7 friends who are big Shenmue fans but they don't won't to back the KS as long as there isn't a PS4 disc version coming. So there's that :/
I hope they're gonna add that in the upcoming days.
I hope they're gonna add that in the upcoming days.
Yep, totally agree.
I've made literally one post saying something about the Kickstarter being run badly, and that's the post you quoted which I made a few minutes ago.
I want this to happen as much as anyone here, but I want to see it done right. As someone who's intimately close to modern game development, I know you don't make a game like Shenmue for five or even ten million. And that's what worries me, we're not going to get the satisfying sequel we all crave.
I'll be honest, I'm not a huge Shenmue fan. I'm more of a Yakuza fan. I'll still put in money for this though, I'm also just waiting for a potential PS4 physical edition before pledging. Also want to see what else they have left in their campaign and what else they do to spur pledges.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of people like me. After all, someone has to spur the final day huge numbers right?
Is this happening a guarantee? I'm beginning to wonder.
If there already is a plan for physical copies to be made, then it would literally be water under the bridge. They would just need to time it with the bulk amount, and perhaps Kickstarter backers could get their copies earlier than everyone else.
i mean at this point it's all but a given that something fell apart in the chain of preparing the kickstarter.
that said, when you look past the lacking surface elements the pieces are coming together very strongly. when the detailed update on new game mechanics surfaces, i think we're going to get a real picture of what shenmue 3 is all about.
we've got an idea of the plot (going after the four chi-you-men leaders), and once the gameplay details are expanded upon we've got something potentially very exciting on our hands. at that point, who even cares about awesome japan's bungling?
hopefully we get the update before we start the new kickstarter thread. a section with the detailed ideas for the game should be given some prominence to encourage people who've not played shenmue or are lapsed fans of the series to donate.
i hope that those of you who are reading this and haven't donated yet will do the right thing before the deadline for the kickstarter. this is our one shot at contributing to shenmue 3. whether it's not coming out on a platform you want, or you didn't like some of the direction the game is going in, or you just thought the kickstarter sucked, just remember that starving the game of funds is only going to limit how much it can do. don't wait for the final version to come out to impress you. make a difference to the game right now.
that said, when you look past the lacking surface elements the pieces are coming together very strongly. when the detailed update on new game mechanics surfaces, i think we're going to get a real picture of what shenmue 3 is all about.
we've got an idea of the plot (going after the four chi-you-men leaders), and once the gameplay details are expanded upon we've got something potentially very exciting on our hands. at that point, who even cares about awesome japan's bungling?
hopefully we get the update before we start the new kickstarter thread. a section with the detailed ideas for the game should be given some prominence to encourage people who've not played shenmue or are lapsed fans of the series to donate.
i hope that those of you who are reading this and haven't donated yet will do the right thing before the deadline for the kickstarter. this is our one shot at contributing to shenmue 3. whether it's not coming out on a platform you want, or you didn't like some of the direction the game is going in, or you just thought the kickstarter sucked, just remember that starving the game of funds is only going to limit how much it can do. don't wait for the final version to come out to impress you. make a difference to the game right now.
don't make me go into your post history son because we know that's not true
Agreed.
I do think there are a lot of people who will end up donating at the end beforehand who are in this position.
Fox Mulder
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i havent pledged yet, but probably will, especially for a physical version. I don't own a ps4 and my pc sucks so I don't want to buy a code. Xbox version would be great, but i get why they won't do that.
ArisenDragon
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Hopefully they can confirm a physical disk soon, seems like that will really make people up there pledges.
shinobi602
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You do know the amount of backers doesn't mean there's literally only that many fans in the world right lol?
As with literally all successful game Kickstarters, there's usually a big uptick the last 24 hours or so.
The sales will largely be dependent on how much Sega intends to charge for the remasters. What price will the market accept? I don't think they can hit 250K if it's a $20-40 package. If they charge like $5-7 they will sell more but of course that drastically reduces revenue.
People always seem to think that remasters are like this simple and cheap process, but they can and do cost a good deal of money and there's plenty of stuff that can go wrong (Silent Hill HD, Tony Hawk HD). I thought the games were caught up in some legal limbo anyway, due to some of the game engine using licensed middleware.
Die Squirrel Die
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Away from thinking about the end, Shenmue III is ~100k away from overtaking Mighty No.9 to become the 4th highest funded game and 12th highest funded overall Kickstarter ever.
IrishNinja
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garbage FUD & awesome japan no doubt didn't help, but we've still set records here...id say this is way more than many argued prior. more importantly? i know we need to see new blood but i really wanna see the final push before i speak on this overall, could be surprises in store.
*big ol' edit: - some quick #'s
Mighty No 9 - 67,226 backers pledged $3,845,170
Bloodstained - 64,867 backers pledged $5,545,991
Shenmue 3, week 2 - 46,459 backers pledged $3,745,694 so far
how are you people disappointed? did you think Shenmue was bigger than mega man/castlevania?
Yep that's pretty cool. It will definitely surpass it. The question is, if it will eventually surpass Bloodstained or not. If they really push out some good content and changes, I think it will make it.
On Shenmue Dojo we have been working at getting our concerns about Awesome Japan addressed. Cedric Biscay, head of Shibuya productions seems to be listening.
See his twitter...
https://twitter.com/CedricBiscay/with_replies
See his twitter...
https://twitter.com/CedricBiscay/with_replies
It's cool, he's definitely interacting with people on twitter, and retweeting some good messages. I hope he and others can bring those ideas to the table before it's too late.
VistraNorrez
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This biggest mistake was to set the funding goal at $2m and then talk about how at $10m it will be the full Shenmue experience. And that is Yu Suzuki's fault. He either should have set the goal higher or never said what he said about the $10 million goal. But that is all hindsight, no one predicted how quickly it would reach $2m.
With that said, the game is coming. I can't call this campaign a disaster for that reason alone. The whole point of a KS is to get the game funded, and it was achieved. All Shenmue fans should be happy. The story is continuing and it's continuing as a videogame. I remember for years people wanted closure anyway possible. And now we know a videogame continuation is happening. That's as big of a success as Shenmue fans could have ever hoped for.
With that said, the game is coming. I can't call this campaign a disaster for that reason alone. The whole point of a KS is to get the game funded, and it was achieved. All Shenmue fans should be happy. The story is continuing and it's continuing as a videogame. I remember for years people wanted closure anyway possible. And now we know a videogame continuation is happening. That's as big of a success as Shenmue fans could have ever hoped for.
unsubstantiated claim, but might be accurate considering shenmue was using a lot of very new technology from companies that may have since been bought up, gone under, or had their assets and intellectual property sold off several times over.
as for simple and cheap process... simple? probably not. cheap though? maybe. sega shanghai handles those dreamcast ports and i'm sure there's a favourable exchange rate on the money coming from japan to fund the shanghai team.
I can't believe...after all the years of him hoping, and eventually getting a license with Sega and a promotional campaign with Sony...that Yu couldn't get a first-rate kickstarter campaign together.
No matter what happens, the team will never be able to start fresh and introduce the project anew. They will never have the ability to state where the kickstarter money is going from minute one, what kind of financial support the outside parties are specifically contributing toward, and - most importantly - how much is needed for which goals.
Every other day could have been a new reveal of concept art, sections of music, a discussion about the engine, interviews with project leads, and finally teasing / showing / discussing new characters, etc.
Look at GAF. We are talking about this game every day, with so little coming from the Kickstarter campaign itself. The team should be leading the conversation with continual updates to further whet our appetite. Instead its been damage control from day three on.
Why should uncommitted fans & newcomers be excited about this project and contribute towards it when the campaign itself inspires so little confidence...?
I can only contribute so much myself.
I still can't believe how much of a blunder this has been. I am heart-broken.
In my opinion they need to show something about the game, they could make a target render showing their vision, a cutscene or something interesting that showcases a few of the key gameplay elements they plan to implement.
They need to get new people on board, new gamers that find the project worthy and interesting on its own and not just because of 15 years old memories.
If they're targeting just the hardcore Shenmue fans I doubt they'll go much further than 5 million, which is still a LOT, especially if they get extra funding later, but they could get more people on board if they handled this better.
They need to get new people on board, new gamers that find the project worthy and interesting on its own and not just because of 15 years old memories.
If they're targeting just the hardcore Shenmue fans I doubt they'll go much further than 5 million, which is still a LOT, especially if they get extra funding later, but they could get more people on board if they handled this better.
Do it. I have nothing to hide.
I'm confident because until the last day or so, I thought people in the thread were overreacting by saying the KS had been badly run.
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