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Uncharted 4 FULL E3 Video July 1st!

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FlashbladeGAF

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btags said:
I'll say this as someone who was unimpressed by the footage: people need to define what they mean by impressive. Graphically I think the game looks great but as far as gameplay, it really didn't impress me. You can say a bunch of stuff like "the transitions were seamless," "PHYSEX," or "you can actually drive the car now,"" but all of those do not cover up the fact that it was a slightly more advanced on rails section. I am more interested in gameplay experiences that are created by the player due to interaction with a sandbox, not what someone else thinks looks really cool for one playthrough.
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To me, uncharted is about playing a movie action hero with scenarios ripped from classic movies (most notable Indiana Jones)

The linear nature may put you off from a gameplay perspective, but if you were playing the game not knowing what was coming next, I bet you would be more in to the scene moment to moment
 
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Kinyou

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KyleCross said:
You have to understand how unfair that is. The press hyped it the fuck up, but it was glorious. Imagine if PlayStation said "fuck the time frame" and threw this entire demo on their E3 stage? You would've been super blown away.
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Oh most certainly. But I don't know if I ever would have thought it's "world changing" the media just went too wild over something we couldn't see ourselves. So it's not like I'm blaming ND, but I think it would have been better to show the demo to everyone at the same time
 
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WhiskerFrisker

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btags said:
I'll say this as someone who was unimpressed by the footage: people need to define what they mean by impressive. Graphically I think the game looks great but as far as gameplay, it really didn't impress me. You can say a bunch of stuff like "the transitions were seamless," "PHYSEX," or "you can actually drive the car now,"" but all of those do not cover up the fact that it was a slightly more advanced on rails section. I am more interested in gameplay experiences that are created by the player due to interaction with a sandbox, not what someone else thinks looks really cool for one playthrough. And yes, I understand that that may not be what uncharted is, but that doesn't mean that I can't criticize the game for being what it is.
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This was demonstrated at PSX.
 
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ViciousDS

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damn.....looks amazing, and the amount of shit that goes flying and how much of it actually reacts is just astounding. All the small details......and its only going to get better.....I want it now!!!
 
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hawk2025

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btags said:
I'll say this as someone who was unimpressed by the footage: people need to define what they mean by impressive. Graphically I think the game looks great but as far as gameplay, it really didn't impress me. You can say a bunch of stuff like "the transitions were seamless," "PHYSEX," or "you can actually drive the car now,"" but all of those do not cover up the fact that it was a slightly more advanced on rails section. I am more interested in gameplay experiences that are created by the player due to interaction with a sandbox, not what someone else thinks looks really cool for one playthrough. And yes, I understand that that may not be what uncharted is, but that doesn't mean that I can't criticize the game for being what it is.
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The game's gameplay reveal was at PSX:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7WPNriIL2I


btags said:
I can understand that opinion and believe it is a legitimate one, which is why I think it is ridiculous when people act like you cannot also have a negative opinion of the uncharted series. Both viewpoints are valid.
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Of course you can. But the meat and potatoes of the gameplay was shown at PSX, not by the linear E3 demo. That's the one we need to talk about if we would like to discuss the gameplay and interactions with the sandbox, not the E3 demo.
 
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btags

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FlashbladeGAF said:
To me, uncharted is about playing a movie action hero with scenarios ripped from classic movies (most notable Indiana Jones)

The linear nature may put you off from a gameplay perspective, but if you were playing the game not knowing what was coming next, I bet you would be more in to the scene moment to moment
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I can understand that opinion and believe it is a legitimate one, which is why I think it is ridiculous when people act like you cannot also have a negative opinion of the uncharted series. Both viewpoints are valid.
 
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Mononoke

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Rimon-hanit said:
Probably posted already but here is a YT mirror
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Oh man that scene where he is in the upside down car and it catches fire. That was too intense. I was in a car accident where something similar happened. Was getting panic attacks watching this it looks so real.

Kudos to ND this looks truly next gen. Really amazed by how they frame all the scenes. And the gameplay looks like so much fun. What surprises me is how well the gameplay stuff blends with the cinematic aspects.
 
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Goose_7

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I'm pulling a Colin Moriarty and not watching a single minute of it. I know ND can deliver, a dev is only as good as their last game and their last 4 offerings have all been amazing.

I'll play it when the game releases next year. In the meantime I'll wait for the Uncharted Collection and platinum those games again.
 
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Omnistalgic

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Really can't wait to play this on crushing. Drake is still no Snake, but his move-set looks quite beefy now, and seems to have much more at his disposal than before. Oh how I just wish we could drag bodies around and hide them.
 
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BluenoseGames

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btags said:
But we are not talking about the psx footage are we? This thread is about this new demo that was supposed to be super impressive. For me it wasn't.
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Yup this is the thing. The media hyped it up like it was the majorly impressive thing. If they showed it us all in one go at the press conference, I think i'd be more impressed.

Anyway, I'm still getting this game day one. The PSX demo is what sold me.
 
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hawk2025

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btags said:
But we are not talking about the psx footage are we? This thread is about this new demo that was supposed to be super impressive. For me it wasn't.
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But you weren't just talking about this one demo:

btags said:
I'll say this as someone who was unimpressed by the footage: people need to define what they mean by impressive. Graphically I think the game looks great but as far as gameplay, it really didn't impress me. You can say a bunch of stuff like "the transitions were seamless," "PHYSEX," or "you can actually drive the car now,"" but all of those do not cover up the fact that it was a slightly more advanced on rails section. I am more interested in gameplay experiences that are created by the player due to interaction with a sandbox, not what someone else thinks looks really cool for one playthrough. And yes, I understand that that may not be what uncharted is, but that doesn't mean that I can't criticize the game for being what it is.
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kinggroin said:
Don't. C'mon don't.


Will his answer actually satisfy you? Or will it just be confirmation of what you already believe his character to be?
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Seriously, people.

It's ok if Seanspeed doesn't like this and doesn't think it's fun. We've been through this too many times already.
 
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Wabba

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btags said:
I'll say this as someone who was unimpressed by the footage: people need to define what they mean by impressive. Graphically I think the game looks great but as far as gameplay, it really didn't impress me. You can say a bunch of stuff like "the transitions were seamless," "PHYSEX," or "you can actually drive the car now,"" but all of those do not cover up the fact that it was a slightly more advanced on rails section. I am more interested in gameplay experiences that are created by the player due to interaction with a sandbox, not what someone else thinks looks really cool for one playthrough. And yes, I understand that that may not be what uncharted is, but that doesn't mean that I can't criticize the game for being what it is.
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Uncharted will never be a game full of open choices. They have already showed a more semi-open approch to the gameplay. I just want a game that is a tight 12-14 hours of incredabile experiences. Naughty Dog does what they do best, there are so many other games out there with a different and more open style, play thoose and leave my Uncharted alone.
 
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Mononoke

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JawzPause said:
Holy shit are people seriously not impressed? To me that looked amazing. People are hard to impress these days
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Opinions are fine. I think game looks amazingly fun. Don't see how it looks dull or boring. But hey. This game won't be for some people. That's fine.
 
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papercan55

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Kinyou said:
The media just went a little too nuts, especially gamesradar


http://www.gamesradar.com/extended-uncharted-4-e3-demo/
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I can't remember which website said this but one of them basically wrote bullshit for the entire mud rope section, they said that it will revolutionise gaming...drake almost gets run over by bike which clips his ear so he starts shooting it, unable to do any damage he has to carefully aim at the gas tank on the bike. Once shot the bike spins through the air throwing mud everywhere and covering drake, the bike bounces, spins and flips exploding just above drakes head as he clinging on for dear life, all of this took place in an open world with cars, bikes weaving in and out of multiple paths and hills.

games journalism gentlemen.
game looks amazing but they've been caught out as the assumed we would't see this section until next year.
 
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The Artisan

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hey_it's_that_dog said:
I would have found it especially not refreshing if an Uncharted game failed to exhibit industry-leading fidelity.
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graphics are more important to me, but if there's one dev who'd be able to maintain their vision of the game graphically while still doing 60fps, it's ND.
hesido said:
Me too. I was excited for that 60fps thingie but I had my doubts that they could pull it off. Still, I won't complain like I did with Ratchet And Clank doing 30fps on PS4.

Having 60fps for the multiplayer is awesome though.
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speaking of mp...I noticed on the twitch comments section that ND responded "no word yet" for a coop mode.

ugh.

i'm one who wants splitscreen and as unlikely as that may be, that was a new addition to Uc3. It'd be a bummer if they take it out of Uc4.
 
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Piggus

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btags said:
I'll say this as someone who was unimpressed by the footage: people need to define what they mean by impressive. Graphically I think the game looks great but as far as gameplay, it really didn't impress me. You can say a bunch of stuff like "the transitions were seamless," "PHYSEX," or "you can actually drive the car now,"" but all of those do not cover up the fact that it was a slightly more advanced on rails section. I am more interested in gameplay experiences that are created by the player due to interaction with a sandbox, not what someone else thinks looks really cool for one playthrough. And yes, I understand that that may not be what uncharted is, but that doesn't mean that I can't criticize the game for being what it is.
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So basically the gameplay sucks since it's not an open world sandbox game? In what universe does that resemble Uncharted?

Games are entertainment experiences. Not all games have to be deeply interactive sandbox experiences to be good. The devs are trying to tell a story in a fun, action-packed way. Their way. And most people would agree that they're really fucking good at it. You'll probably enjoy more games if you appreciate them for what they're trying to achieve rather than how they compare to other games.
 
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dankir

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Holy mother of god. The whole thing was incredible, the haitian guy standing next to Nate and his bro after the truck explode was probably the most amazing thing to me. His expression, body movement.

Goddam the motion capture is incredible. Get fucking hype!!!
 
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jett

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The Artisan said:
graphics are more important to me, but if there's one dev who'd be able to maintain their vision of the game graphically while still doing 60fps, it's ND.
speaking of mp...I noticed on the twitch comments section that ND responded "no word yet" for a coop mode.

ugh.

i'm one who wants splitscreen and as unlikely as that may be, that was a new addition to Uc3. It'd be a bummer if they take it out of Uc4.
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I wouldn't keep my hopes up, but I guess it's a possibility if they're honestly targeting 60fps, splitscreen would theoretically run at 30.
 
zkorejo

zkorejo

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Mind blown. Cant wait for the game. esp. the multiplayer.

This is probably the last thing Uc4 demo I will watch. ND spoiled all the best parts of UC3.
 
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The Artisan

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jett said:
I wouldn't keep my hopes up, but I guess it's a possibility if they're honestly targeting 60fps, splitscreen would theoretically run at 30.
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I wouldn't care about that. I'm a big believer in local mp being the true mp. Not that online isn't important, but I hate that the industry is slowly forgetting about two+ friends sitting on a couch playing through a game together.
 
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Seanspeed

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xenorevlis said:
It's Seanspeed. He has a lot of opinions on things he has never tried or knows about. Just move on lol.
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So you've played this game already? Amazing how you guys don't realize the obvious flaw in this line of thinking.

Sorry for not thinking this looks fun from what I've seen. I see that is simply not allowed around here to the point where people have to make up personal attacks to discredit unwanted opinions.

Unsurprised.
 
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hawk2025

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jett said:
I wouldn't keep my hopes up, but I guess it's a possibility if they're honestly targeting 60fps, splitscreen would theoretically run at 30.
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That would be just fine, I'm sure.

I'd rather have splitscreen at 30 than not at all!

The Artisan said:
I wouldn't care about that. I'm a big believer in local mp being the true mp. Not that online isn't important, but I hate that the industry is slowly forgetting about two+ friends sitting on a couch playing through a game together.
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Agreed.

Love couch co-op and couch multiplayer experiences.
 
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btags

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Piggus said:
So basically the gameplay sucks since it's not an open world sandbox game? In what universe does that resemble Uncharted?

Games are entertainment experiences. Not all games have to be deeply interactive sandbox experiences to be good. The devs are trying to tell a story in a fun, action-packed way. Their way. And most people would agree that they're really fucking good at it. You'll probably enjoy more games if you appreciate them for what they're trying to achieve rather than how they compare to other games.
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Didn't say that at all. I never said open world. I said sandbox. You can have a linear game with an interesting sandbox consisting of unique weapons, vehicles, ai, and environmental interactions.
 
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gundamkyoukai

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btags said:
I'll say this as someone who was unimpressed by the footage: people need to define what they mean by impressive. Graphically I think the game looks great but as far as gameplay, it really didn't impress me. You can say a bunch of stuff like "the transitions were seamless," "PHYSEX," or "you can actually drive the car now,"" but all of those do not cover up the fact that it was a slightly more advanced on rails section. I am more interested in gameplay experiences that are created by the player due to interaction with a sandbox, not what someone else thinks looks really cool for one playthrough. And yes, I understand that that may not be what uncharted is, but that doesn't mean that I can't criticize the game for being what it is.
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This makes no sense why would come into a thread about a game knowing what type of game it is just to criticize it.
It's like going into a fighting game thread and complain it's a fighting game.
 
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The Artisan

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posted by Eggbock in the Sam chase thread:
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WhiskerFrisker

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btags said:
I didn't mean to imply that. I meant to say that this section didn't show sandbox gameplay, therefore it wasn't interesting to me.
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I understand. However, the beginning portion has multiple routes the player can take.
Dictator93 said:
If we are going to be picky about sentence fragments and singular words to criticize people's opinions, we might as well go into what we mean by "sandboxy".
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Surely more open ended unlike past games in the series.
 
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btags

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gundamkyoukai said:
This makes no sense why would come into a thread about a game knowing what type of game it is just to criticize it.
It's like going into a fighting game thread and complain it's a fighting game.
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So criticism cannot exist if something defines itself? Then no one can criticize any game because people can claim it is exactly what the dev intended it to be.
 
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prophecy0

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It's been said multiple times already, but the small bit with Elena was the best part to me. I've always loved the interaction between her and Nate.
 
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