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New PS4 model (CUH-1200) announced

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Elios83

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biglittleps said:
Mostly its going to come with MGS V(its been confirmed that Limited edition bundle using new model) or holidays.
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Sooner than that, they're just waiting to get rid of the current units in the retail channels.
I think that most new consoles sold in September will be based on the new model.
 
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eMpTy23

Member
Elios83 said:
Sooner than that, they're just waiting to get rid of the current units in the retail channels.
I think that most new consoles sold in September will be based on the new model.
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Yea, I've actually been watching stock at local Targets/Walmarts, and they have done zero restocking in the last month. Many stores have been "sold out" the entire time where I live. IMO, it kind of hints towards a release sooner rather than later. Some sites have also said that it's coming in July, but I haven't seen anything official from Sony.
 
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crinale

Member
Facially CUH1200 doesn't give you any advantage over CUH1100 so Sony should fill supply chain as soon as previous model gets sold out.
 
Xander Crews

Xander Crews

Member
Elios83 said:
Sooner than that, they're just waiting to get rid of the current units in the retail channels.
I think that most new consoles sold in September will be based on the new model.
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I think you are right. While you can get one on Amazon, it's been through a third party seller for over a week at least.
 
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Eduardboon

Member
Does anyone know when the 1200 is available in Europe? Can't really find any answers. Really want to get that model since my 1000 model literally dries hair (I have tried it).

Just sucks I'll be losing my 1TB drive :(
 
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thenameDS

Member
Eduardboon said:
Does anyone know when the 1200 is available in Europe? Can't really find any answers. Really want to get that model since my 1000 model literally dries hair (I have tried it).

Just sucks I'll be losing my 1TB drive :(
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Why would you lose your 1TB drive?
Couldn't you just take it out and put it into the new console?
 
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Eduardboon

Member
thenameDS said:
Why would you lose your 1TB drive?
Couldn't you just take it out and put it into the new console?
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I could if I didn't threw out the PS4's box when I moved house. Turned out the HDD was in there. Live and learn.

cuh-1000 is going to be sold.

Edit: Just noticed I'm a member now. Hooray!
 
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ioriyagami

Member
knerl said:
Don't know about dramatically. The top line from Sony's presentation shows the max noise level which sits at ~53dB while the phone test shows 57dB. Also. In which game is the phone test from? Different levels in the same game alone would make the graphs differ.
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The top line is the temperature of the APU (in Celsius). The noise peak is reported as 37db (in game).

However, we don't know how those measurements were made (probably using better equipment than an Android phone's SmartTools app, I'd presume), and without that, we can't really get comparable values...
 
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Drackhorn

Member
I'll be waiting for the CUH-1200 to come to EU before I buy a PS4. I really can't stand loud consoles and hopefully it will indeed be quiet. Sent tweets to Sony about when these might arrive but got no reply. They probably want to get rid of their stocks first.
 
Hesemonni

Hesemonni

Banned
Two things I want about CUH-1200:

1) Benchmark to see if the SSD performance has improved
2) Teardown with analysis on the thermal used

:p
 
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Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
Oh man i hope this releases in europe before september 1st because if not i have no other choice but to get the old model.
 
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Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
Theonik said:
MGSV?
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No Mad Max.








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Hesemonni

Hesemonni

Banned
Zombie James said:
Did they upgrade to SATA III? SSDs are bottlenecked by SATA II in current models so the only way that's going to improve is if Sony updates their I/O.
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crinale said:
Here some quick translation of that guy's teardown:

Following chips existed at previous models are now missing:
- Fujitsu USB 3.0-SATA bridge
- Marvell Ethernet LSI
- Genesys Logic USB 3.0 hub controller LSI

The secondary processor CXD90036G has direct connection to all of them (the guy speculates Sony may have eliminated USB3.0 - SATA conversion).
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Here's hoping. Or am I reading this completely wrong?
 
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knerl

Member
ioriyagami said:
The top line is the temperature of the APU (in Celsius). The noise peak is reported as 37db (in game).

However, we don't know how those measurements were made (probably using better equipment than an Android phone's SmartTools app, I'd presume), and without that, we can't really get comparable values...
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Then those are bullshit digits. Sony themselves have another official presentation in regards to fan noise etc. where they explicitly state the launch model sitting at ~53dB average in-game.
 
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ioriyagami

Member
knerl said:
Then those are bullshit digits. Sony themselves have another official presentation in regards to fan noise etc. where they explicitly state the launch model sitting at ~53dB average in-game.
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Do you have a link? The presentation I linked (http://vr-zone.com/articles/sony-engineer-unveils-functional-beauty-ps4s-cooling-system/69852.html) contains the only official Sony information about fan noise I have been able to find, and they mention an average of 31dbA in game (using Killzone). It is worth mentioning that the units they are using are dbA (A-weighted decibels), but not sure if that is enough to account for the 22db difference...

EDIT: Noise levels in dbA:

decibel-22202604.jpg


Yeah, no way my PS4 is as loud as a "quiet living room". I call that early Sony presentation bullshit.
 
Shin-Ra

Shin-Ra

Junior Member
Zombie James said:
Did they upgrade to SATA III? SSDs are bottlenecked by SATA II in current models so the only way that's going to improve is if Sony updates their I/O.
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If SSDs were bottlenecked by SATA II they'd still transfer data more than twice as fast compared to the stock HDD instead of 10-40% faster.
 
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Guymelef

Member
Sn4ke_911 said:
Oh, is it really?

Edit:

Looks like those are still the old models?

CUH-1116A

https://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblogeurope/18637771825

https://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblogeurope/18635575761
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The screens are old, the MGS bundle is the new model, Limited Edition console at least.

Further differences between CUH-1100 and CUH-1200 PS4:

【Features】
1. HDD bay cover
gloss finish -> matte finish
2. Power / Eject button
electrostatic type -> mechanical type
3. Port layout
OPTICAL―HDMI―LAN―AUX -> OPTICAL―AUX―HDMI―LAN
* No change for AC IN connector layout
4. Length of LED light: Long: CUH-1100 / Short: CUH-1200

【Specs】
1. Maximum power consumption
250W -> 230W
2. Weight (approximate)
2.8kg -> 2.5kg

Extra information:

The limited #MGSV #PS4 console will be a CUH-1200 model. Releases on 2/9/2015
The limited Edition Batman: Arkham Knight #PS4 Bundle will be a CUH-1100 model. Releases on 23/6/2015
HDD bay cover compatibility:
HDD bay cover for CUH-1100 is not compatible with CUH-1200 PS4.
HDD bay cover for CUH-1200 PS4 is compatible with CUH-1100 PS4.
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crinale

Member
Guymelef said:
HDD bay cover for CUH-1100 is not compatible with CUH-1200 PS4.
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Maybe this applies to just for limited edition covers but first guy who did audible noise report is saying they are indeed compatible with CUH-1200 (he put Toro-featured cover to new model, which was released before CUH1200 even existed). Maybe only OG cover comes with CUH1100 alone isn't compatible with CUH1200?
 
nicoga3000

nicoga3000

Saint Nic
I was contemplating grabbing a PS4 like, today. I probably should wait.

When is the release date on this in the US? Have they said?
 
Kudo

Kudo

Member
nicoga3000 said:
I was contemplating grabbing a PS4 like, today. I probably should wait.

When is the release date on this in the US? Have they said?
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I think MGS5 bundle included the newer model so one would assume at least then the normal models have been replaced with this too.
It's already out in Japan so could be earlier too, Sony haven't announced any date though.
 
//DEVIL//

//DEVIL//

Member
i think they are waiting to sell the stock available right now in before they silently release the new model here.
 
nicoga3000

nicoga3000

Saint Nic
Hmm...OK. I'll probably wait until there's some confirmation. The upgrade isn't huge, but I might as well hold out a little longer if that's the case.
 
Chronos24

Chronos24

Member
nicoga3000 said:
Hmm...OK. I'll probably wait until there's some confirmation. The upgrade isn't huge, but I might as well hold out a little longer if that's the case.
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If you're OCD like me then I would hold out on noise alone. I've been through too many to count to finally come across a mostly quiet console.
 
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