SmoothRunningGun
Member
Better have destruction for sp or fuck them. Rfg did it on the fucking xbox 360!
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Crackdown 3 Gameplay First Look
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they specified full destruction in multiplayer. i'd imagine that means there will be some in single player, but you cant level the city (for fairly obvious reasons)
Big Green Anus
Member
Is the whole game cloud-based or just multiplayer?
gamechanger87
Member
Isn't Microsoft Azure the second largest provider of server capacity only behind Amazon? I believe they have 16 data centers around the world.
I think MS is making around $600M a year from Azure alone. This isn't like Sony or someone whom is renter server capacity and will shut it down on whim. MS is going heavy into Azure and they own all of their capacity. They believe Azure is the future of the Company and they are aggressively building it out.
They use the VMs to adjust to load.
pixelation
Member
This game reminds me of the Dreamcast, and i mean that in a good way. By that i mean... how i imagine a Dreamcast game would look like running on a system with XBO's specs... if that makes sense (it does to me lol).
It seems like they've done this a few times. Didn't they basically help Ruffian Games and Feel Plus (Lost Odyssey) get off the ground as well?
Dog Problems
Banned
Hmm, too much shooting. I hope there's still the beat'em up action in place and being able to pick up things and throw them. Making it focused on shooting would be so boring.
I think those two were on their own, but yeah Microsoft worked with both of these studios on major projects, and despite everything (time given, sales, etc.), they are reasonably talented and should have been easy, low cost acquisitions. But maybe they didn't want to play ball and wished to remain independent. Fair enough.
Cloudgine and Reagent Games appear to have been set up solely to work on MS IP, using MS technology and MS funds. They're like 343i and The Coalition, only MS didn't create them. It seems like such a missed opportunity to bring those developers into the fold when MS could really use some more AAA game studios.
I'm positive Feelplus was initially created by Microsoft. Not so sure about Ruffian.
You're right. They gone now.
They did the same thing with Mistwalker.
Ruffian
"What the fuck, Microsoft?" amirite?
Death Metalist
Member
Really excited for this. Upgrading your character and co-op through the city taking down the bosses/freaks was my favorite thing about Crackdown 1/2.
NippleViking
Banned
Day one. Looks absolutely incredible, and can hardly believe some are downplaying this level of destruction. A 20x leap might be contestable sure - it's hard to quantify - but the destruction show blows RF:G away eaaasssilllly. Most if not all of the buildings looked to be enterable as well (imagine 32-64 player TDM?!). Sounds like it's not online-only also fortunately.
Only have three legitimate concerns:
Will destruction be on this level (or greater) when it releases, or is this super-optimised closed-environment footage?
In the footage shown all of the buildings were pretty much the same height; there were no towering super-structures like the Agency tower from Crackdown 1, or really-wide complexes like malls. Even if super-structures aren't collapsable due to cloud-limitations, I really hope they don't axe them as they were the highlights of the first and second. Frankly needs more deviance in building heights in general to facilitate that platformy nature.
The street and ground level worried me. Looked really barren and totally void of assets. Could be possible that will be added later however. Also noticed that there didn't appear to be any undulation in ground, which is a big immersion-killer for me.
Oh well! Feel this shouldn't have been shown quite so early, but there's so much damn potential here that it could be truly incredible (similar sentiments with Scalebound). If they equip this with GTA:5 level community and multiplayer-features (city-building mode, plz!!) this will be my game of the generation.
Only have three legitimate concerns:
Will destruction be on this level (or greater) when it releases, or is this super-optimised closed-environment footage?
In the footage shown all of the buildings were pretty much the same height; there were no towering super-structures like the Agency tower from Crackdown 1, or really-wide complexes like malls. Even if super-structures aren't collapsable due to cloud-limitations, I really hope they don't axe them as they were the highlights of the first and second. Frankly needs more deviance in building heights in general to facilitate that platformy nature.
The street and ground level worried me. Looked really barren and totally void of assets. Could be possible that will be added later however. Also noticed that there didn't appear to be any undulation in ground, which is a big immersion-killer for me.
Oh well! Feel this shouldn't have been shown quite so early, but there's so much damn potential here that it could be truly incredible (similar sentiments with Scalebound). If they equip this with GTA:5 level community and multiplayer-features (city-building mode, plz!!) this will be my game of the generation.
TetraGenesis
Member
Woof.
gamechanger87
Member
If you can buy the first one you should check it out. If not, go read the plot summary. You will be surprised.
Not really. This is the first Crackdown to have this kind of destruction.
It was mostly a game where you took down rival factions(probably the part they need to upgrade the most since the main missions were really anticlimactic), platformed for orbs and upgraded your character through repeated use of certain actions sort of like Skyrim.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
I'll have to keep an eye on this. Seems pretty rough but the destruction looks awesome.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Wonder if they specified destruction only for MP since you need an online connection to play that at all. Meanwhile SP destruction being on or off will depend on you being on or offline.
IIRC they said around the time of SR4 that it just wasn't worth the hit in graphical fidelity at that point. MS seems to be bypassing this con by using the Cloud.
IIRC they said around the time of SR4 that it just wasn't worth the hit in graphical fidelity at that point. MS seems to be bypassing this con by using the Cloud.
Basketball
Member
The game will no doubt have destruction but I think in the singleplayer
it will be toned down a bit. Think about it Crackdown games have always had agility orbs
even in the trailer of 3. Lots of Agility orbs are mounted on high to reach places like skyscrapers and such
A big part of the game is seeing how much you progressed and in terms of agility from 5 feet in the air to 50 feet or more over buildings ... Being able to just destroy the building would break the mechanic.
it will be toned down a bit. Think about it Crackdown games have always had agility orbs
even in the trailer of 3. Lots of Agility orbs are mounted on high to reach places like skyscrapers and such
A big part of the game is seeing how much you progressed and in terms of agility from 5 feet in the air to 50 feet or more over buildings ... Being able to just destroy the building would break the mechanic.
In Service
Member
It is amusing to me that in years gone by the discussion would have been about how many features are missing from multiplayer to get it to run at a decent FPS rather than how much has been added to it.
Power of the cloud? lol
MP still might look like trash of course - we are only talking about one feature
Power of the cloud? lol
StaSeb posted this footage from Gamescom over in "The Power of the Cloud" - what happened?" thread. It's a fascinating insight into how Azure is used and the servers scale to calculate physics based destruction in Crackdown 3's multiplayer.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Volition doesn't have it anymore, the tech went to Nordic along with the Red Faction IP.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Not sure if already posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFWIpAPvF-Q&feature=youtu.be
The orbs.... they come down with the building. oO
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
This needs to be added to the OP.
Definitely next level destruction here. This fills me with more hope.
... and over in the "Power of the Cloud" - what happened?" thread.
Really impressive stuff.
That looks pretty awesome.
So the destruction being computed on the cloud, will it mean that the mayhem of all players wrecking stuff won't really affect the performance?
That's amazing, why didn't they do this in the actual conference?
The point where they've put charges in and they're using 10x the amount of power which is locally available for physics, that's intense. The whole area crumbles.
This video is nuts. Honestly I think people are being a bit harsh (standard on this forum) its alpha footage after all.
If they can pull off what they show in that video at launch, sign me up.
Isn't that why they did it, for marketing purposes. Tech looks impressive but I just want to see all the transforming cars and if the wing suits are back.
This looks amazing!
Backfoggen
Banned
Mother of gawd.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Should probably listen to what he says at the last few seconds.
It's a tech demo and not representative of the final gameplay
Alx
Member
That's because you won't spend all your time in the game destroying buildings and watching them fall down... You'll also have orbs to find, bad guys to shoot, vehicles to drive etc.
gamechanger87
Member
Yeah, I mean they are using overpowered weapons and just spending time using a debug version of the game to show stuff. Doesn't mean the baseline tech is different.
They can do this stuff in game and they are showing you.
