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Digital Foundry Performance Analysis: Fallout 4

EctoPrime

Member
Using V.A.T.S with a 100 hour savefile is going to be fun. Expect 30 minutes per bullet if Fallout 3 (PS3) is anything to go by if you use a rifle over long distances.
 

bombshell

Member
What's up with that comment?

Gee, I wonder if it could have anything to do with the massive thread where a large part of the conversation was about trying to prove the Xbox One version to be the better version.

Search me, judging by his post history I think he might really like to point out that the Xbox One is bad.

I do? I think there's an almost perfect correlation between me posting a lot in Digital Foundry threads (because tech interests me) and the fact that PS4 has the best versions in almost all multiplats this generation.
 

kraspkibble

Permabanned.
so an i3/750 ti does pretty well. much better than consoles. i wonder what my i5/290 will manage. i will lock to 40/50fps if i can't manage a solid 60. i'm not getting this on console. not with those insane drops.
 
Are you okay?
It's okay, we get it..
Honestly, even if that was never patched, if I could only get the XBone version it wouldn't bother me. Other games have done that shit. When Halo CE came out it was a promoted feature. Micro-load times or whatever, it was cutting edge for disc consoles. IMO, It's not really that big of a deal and it's only through comparison that it becomes relevant. There are reasons to get FO4 outside of frame rates and shadows.
 

Theorry

Member
Think its crazy the reviews are so high when there is such poor performance on consoles.
I mean some sites give a game a lower score because there is no splitscreen. But a very medicore performance of a full game is oke. I just..
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Retrofitting the old engine while trying to push out even more in terms of open world I expected this.

As long as it's not unplayable it's fine. That being said Bethesda should be knocked for it in reviews.

But if you want. You know what your going into all the way back since Morrowind hit the OG Xbox.
 

Apathy

Member
Lol people and their conspiracy theories that Bethesda did more to the xbox version then the ps4 version. People forget hanlon's razor. It's just that Bethesda and their stupid engine are just bad.
 
The 750TI near always runs better than the consoles in their tests.

Isn't a 660ti like 30% or so more powerful than a 750 ti as well? I imagine there's still a pretty significant amount of people still chugging along with their 660ti's from 2012. How you holding up 660TI GAF?
 
How a technical mess like this still receive some 10/10's from reviewers?

Review copies were PS4 (iirc) so they never hit 0fps.

Edit: Looking at that video below, though... ugh, yeah, I can't unsee shit like that and I find it hard to believe people who's professional jobs it is to review games don't notice it, either.
 

DooMAGE

Member
Think its crazy the reviews are so high when there is such poor performance on consoles.
I mean some sites give a game a lower score because there is no splitscreen. But a very medicore performance of a full game is oke. I just..

It's hard trust reviews because of this bullshit
 

woen

Member
Game has 2011 standard AAA graphics and don't even run smoothly on 2013 hardware. Meh. GTAV was last year, 1080p@30fps steady and it looked way better than Bethesda's new alpha-released game.
 

Micerider

Member
Isn't a 660ti like 30% or so more powerful than a 750 ti as well? I imagine there's still a pretty significant amount of people still chugging along with their 660ti's from 2012. How you holding up 660TI GAF?

660 Ti runs consistently better than consoles for sure, except for scenarios with Heavy VRAM usage.

But I suspect that for Fallout 4, the CPU is what makes the difference, not the GPU (I wouldn't even be surprised if a GTX 560 Ti would still run it decently enough)
 

Nzyme32

Member
Well $400 isn't quite a hyperbolic enough price for me to use in my shitposts.

On a related note, can it run Crysis?

Is your pride hurt or something? This is a weird tangent to keep hammering on. And yes it can play Crysis easily, considering that is better than my laptop, and it can run Crysis just fine.

If you are in the UK you can build a system that is £308, where the PS4 is £299, but you'd still have to factor OS mouse and keyboard into the mix. Having said that, there are a number of obvious questions to ask at this point. Why would you want to go for such a system when you are not limited to it? There is even better value from investing more money into a better performing system. Why are we floating around $300, when a PC is not the same as a console. They have different applications and use cases, which can easily justify an increased cost, should that be what you want to do, not to mention not need a subscription to play online.

Why this needs debating at all though, in this thread, I don't know
 

amnesiac

Member
A game that performs like this getting 9+ reviews is an insult to games that actually are well optimized. The actual game must be fucking phenomenal if it runs like this and still gets above a 9.
 
What's crazy is I think I heard they were saying Fallout 4 was basically done at E3 and that they were just now spending months ironing out the game. What exactly did they do with the their time?
 

danowat

Banned
A game that performs like this getting 9+ reviews is an insult to games that actually are well optimized. The actual game must be fucking phenomenal if it runs like this and still gets above a 9.

Or maybe this game is, as a whole, greater than the sum of it's parts?
 

valkyre

Member
Review copies were PS4 (iirc) so they never hit 0fps.

Edit: Looking at that video below, though... ugh, yeah, I can't unsee shit like that and I find it hard to believe people who's professional jobs it is to review games don't notice it, either.

PS4 is far from having a good performance framerate wise, + all the bugs + all the last gen tech. So yeah , its kinda insane people give this 10/10. Imagine if it didnt have any of these issues... they would've given it a 12 or something.
 

N30RYU

Member
Another

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Looks like being happening during large city loads and when you're switching guns?? look at this gif... the freeze is just when the cross-air appears. As if you're entering a "fight" area.
 

erbazzone

Neo Member
A game that performs like this getting 9+ reviews is an insult to games that actually are well optimized. The actual game must be fucking phenomenal if it runs like this and still gets above a 9.

This game has the same scores and reception than The Witcher 3. It's the same kind of game so we could compare every compart of the software and find a winner.
I don't know about the game, maybe FO4 it will be better and more fun than tw3 (I doubt it) but I think this is an insult to CDPR and good developers.
 

Composer

Member
I know DF had a hard time locking the PC version to 30fps. For anyone who has the game, can we lock it down in the ini?
 

Kaako

Felium Defensor
Lmfao @ ZERO FPS. It's like an automatic pause function for the XB1 version. Bethesda always ahead of the game.
 

T.O.P

Banned
A game that performs like this getting 9+ reviews is an insult to games that actually are well optimized. The actual game must be fucking phenomenal if it runs like this and still gets above a 9.

Yeah it kinda baffles me, especially with reviews like the Polygon one where they give 9.5 to all the 3 versions

Hell if i was stucked with a game that has console performances like this one i'd be pretty pissed
 

ISee

Member
so an i3/750 ti does pretty well. much better than consoles. i wonder what my i5/290 will manage. i will lock to 40/50fps if i can't manage a solid 60. i'm not getting this on console. not with those insane drops.

Just visit the pc performance thread. You should be fine by running everything at mixed high/ultra settings for 60fps. Most demanding stuff seems to be the god rays. But even on medium/high they still look okay and give you a nice fps boost.
 
Retrofitting the old engine while trying to push out even more in terms of open world I expected this.

As long as it's not unplayable it's fine. That being said Bethesda should be knocked for it in reviews.

But if you want. You know what your going into all the way back since Morrowind hit the OG Xbox.

I really hope this can be the engine's swan song and TES6 has completely new tech... but I really doubt it will happen. It'll be interesting to see how long FO4 can keep my interest in relation to the past TES and FO games. Skyrim had me really feeling some engine fatigue and while it was a far better game I ended up spending like 100 hours less compared to around 200 in Oblivion.
 

Nzyme32

Member
Review copies were PS4 (iirc) so they never hit 0fps.

Edit: Looking at that video below, though... ugh, yeah, I can't unsee shit like that and I find it hard to believe people who's professional jobs it is to review games don't notice it, either.

Surely that can't be true for all outlets though, right? I mean, an Xbox site / magazine would surely cover the Xbox version........... I suppose that's why I'm not seeing Xbox review sites in the OP then
 

kingwingin

Member
Just Canceled my Xbox pre order.

After seeing this I'll hold out for a while to see what happens after months of patching
 
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