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[Obliterator]

Someone at SCEA better be sweating right now that November turns spectacular. Otherwise they need some explaining to do.

Now this is also true. If the PS4 isnt somehow up significantly YoY at a much cheaper price, with better games, and with custom hardware bundles then we really need to ask some serious questions about the state of things.

That said it has to do a million right?

 

[Boke1879]

Someone at SCEA better be sweating right now that November turns spectacular. Otherwise they need some explaining to do.

Not really. As long as Sony hits their margins I'm sure they are fine. Not to mention I'm sure they know better than any of us how many preorders they have for the cod and BF bundles

 

[super6646]

Wut?
https://twitter.com/mrfight6666/status/665034090450554880

Shh... I'm medita... OH FUCK I CANT KEEP IT IN! HALO 5 SUB 1 MILLION?!!!! HOLY SH!T.... I'm getting off neogaf now, this is going too far. I mean I've become addicted to foruming on this site.... From 350 to 500 posts in one day.

 

[ethomaz]

Not sure touching this is a good idea but Zhuge is incredibly smart, does great analytics, and has constructed all his numbers from publicly available info like some kind of data ninja.

Doubt the results if you want, but I would not recommend doubting the guy.

I don't need more confirmation

 

[ZSaberLink]

He kept getting banned for attacking other people, so after he came back for the 2nd or 3rd time he said he's done with gaf and he did a self ban.

Ah ok thanks for the info.

 

[orochi91]

Lol, there's no way ~276k is a win for Sony, no matter how close it is to MS.

While the impending November sales are probably a very likely explanation, you only have to look at the aggregate predictions to remind yourself how poor this month is for sales. I still can't get over it. I expected so much from this price cut. And the PS4 is down from last year. It's crazy.

Perhaps November siphoned off a fair bit of sales from October.

Still, I personally had PS4 at 400K+ for October due to the perceived impact of the price-cut lol

 

[Ihyll]

Ps4 didn't have any big games coming out in October, the price drop shouldn't be that big of a difference when everyone is waiting for all the big games in Novemver.

I think we will definitely see the effects of that priced drop this month and the next.

However for Microsoft to only move 300k or so units is disappointing considering Halo is the flagship Xbox title and a big system seller.

 

[Welfare]

Now this is also true. If the PS4 isnt somehow up significantly YoY at a much cheaper price, with better games, and with custom hardware bundles then we really need to ask some serious questions about the state of things.

That said it has to do a million right?

If the PS4 is really the market leader in the US, it needs to around what the Xbox One did last November. Better games/bundles, same price and $299 during BF, it needs to do at least that.

 

[Japanmanx3]

Shh... I'm medita... OH FUCK I CANT KEEP IT IN! HALO 5 SUB 1 MILLION?!!!! HOLY SH!T.... I'm getting off neogaf now, this is going too far.

Just go bananas Supe

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Wow. Bad.

 

[orochi91]

Shh... I'm medita... OH FUCK I CANT KEEP IT IN! HALO 5 SUB 1 MILLION?!!!! HOLY SH!T.... I'm getting off neogaf now, this is going too far. I mean I've become addicted to foruming on this site.... From 350 to 500 posts in one day.

Did you really get Juniored today?

lol, what did you do?

 

[Primethius]

Perhaps November siphoned off a fair bit of sales from October.

Still, I personally had PS4 at 400K+ for October due to the perceived impact of the price-cut lol

Same, I had it even higher actually. I mean, I expected some siphoning to occur but certainly not anything this drastic.

The PS4 needs to sell like crazy in November.

If the PS4 is really the market leader in the US, it needs to around what the Xbox One did last November. Better games/bundles, same price and $299 during BF, it needs to do at least that.

Agreed on all fronts. Otherwise, there's a problem.

 

[Obliterator]

If the PS4 is really the market leader in the US, it needs to around what the Xbox One did last November. Better games/bundles, same price and $299 during BF, it needs to do at least that.

Agreed anything less than 1 million November NPD for the PS4 would be a pretty bad performance imo given the context.

 

[JaggedSac]

So given MS's statement that Halo 5 brought in $400 million in revenue and we are looking at 1 million at retail, maybe 200,000 digital assuming the average 20%. Maybe 200,000 rest of world since UK only did around 125,000. So we are looking at around $100 million for the actual game and $300 million made from everything else from bundles, controllers, req packs, and special editions. That is pretty crazy.

 

[DR2K]

You can't win anything being down YOY after a pricecut.

You can if your competition just released it's biggest title/ip that it will ever release in its lifespan and only outsold it by 30k in one region.

 

[Liabe Brave]

Too much speculation. He never said what that number was for. If he was banned from here why is he getting so much attention?

Because without creamsugar's real numbers, people will cling to anything that's presented. They're willing to ignore that his excuse for retracting a number he tweeted earlier was because he "misread PR". Which indicates he was doing estimated calculations, not using inside info.

 

[super6646]

Did you really get Juniored today?

lol, what did you do?

Well, during the nintendo direct, there was a super smash bros FFVII something, I forget. I thought they announced FFVII for nintendo platforms, so I went onto neogaf and instantely showed my excitment. I was wrong... sadly, and I temporarly crashed the site and ignited a few twitter feeds. Long story short, I better start making my speech to beg the mods for my position back in 6 months.

 

[ethomaz]

So given MS's statement that Halo 5 brought in $400 million in revenue and we are looking at 1 million at retail, maybe 200,000 digital assuming the average 20%. Maybe 200,000 rest of world since UK only did around 125,000. So we are looking at around $100 million for the actual game and $300 made from everything else from bundles, controllers, req packs, and special editions. That is pretty crazy.

You can be sure the $400m MS told us were shipped (sell in) data.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Perhaps November siphoned off a fair bit of sales from October.

Still, I personally had PS4 at 400K+ for October due to the perceived impact of the price-cut lol

When you look at it all of Sony cards are in Nov but the $50 price drop ( which rather small after 2 years )
They have been taking pre orders of COD and BF for months and they hitting 299 also .

 

[zsynqx]

Shh... I'm medita... OH FUCK I CANT KEEP IT IN! HALO 5 SUB 1 MILLION?!!!! HOLY SH!T.... I'm getting off neogaf now, this is going too far. I mean I've become addicted to foruming on this site.... From 350 to 500 posts in one day.

LOL at least you recognize that you are having a meltdown which puts you above most people in my books!

 

[Boke1879]

Because without creamsugar's real numbers, people will cling to anything that's presented. They're willing to ignore that his excuse for retracting a number he tweeted earlier was because he "misread PR". Which indicates he was doing estimated calculations, not using inside info.

Yet we have two people in this thread in the know giving us at least hints.

 

[MaulerX]

You can if your competition just released it's biggest title/ip that it will ever release in its lifespan and only outsold it by 30k in one region.

Wut?

 

[BigSoftieFF]

Well, during the nintendo direct, there was a super smash bros FFVII something, I forget. I thought they announced FFVII for nintendo platforms, so I went onto neogaf and instantely showed my excitment. I was wrong... sadly, and I temporarly crashed the site and ignited a few twitter feeds. Long story short, I better start making my speech to beg the mods for my position back in 6 months.

So you're the guy who killed GAF.....

 

[Obliterator]

So given MS's statement that Halo 5 brought in $400 million in revenue and we are looking at 1 million at retail, maybe 200,000 digital assuming the average 20%. Maybe 200,000 rest of world since UK only did around 125,000. So we are looking at around $100 million for the actual game and $300 made from everything else from bundles, controllers, req packs, and special editions. That is pretty crazy.

Remember they probably gave sell in numbers not sell through. So software would be a larger chunk than that.

But yeah they must be raking in on cash spent on average per consumer

 

[EventHorizon]

I don't think anyone really "won". Everything was underwhelming.

I think everybody was waiting for the big hits of November. Exclusives don't have the pull that they use to. On the other hand, November should be a very big month.

 

[Somnia]

Wasn't the $400 million for first week sales for Halo 5? NPD wouldn't track the entire first week btw it bled into November.

Just an FYI about that number.

 

[wapplew]

Ps4 didn't have any big games coming out in October, the price drop shouldn't be that big of a difference when everyone is waiting for all the big games in Novemver.

I think we will definitely see the effects of that priced drop this month and the next.

However for Microsoft to only move 300k or so units is disappointing considering Halo is the flagship Xbox title and a big system seller.

Destiny move more PS4 then Halo move Xbox one, don't know how to process this.

 

[Japanmanx3]

Because without creamsugar's real numbers, people will cling to anything that's presented. They're willing to ignore that his excuse for retracting a number he tweeted earlier was because he "misread PR". Which indicates he was doing estimated calculations, not using inside info.

Cosmic just cosigned the dude on the last page...

 

[Kenzodielocke]

So what are the estimates for PS4?

 

[super6646]

So you're the guy who killed GAF.....

Yeah, I was. I wonder how many views that post had anyway

 

[ethomaz]

Wasn't the $400 million for first week sales for Halo 5? NPD wouldn't track the entire first week btw it bled into November.

Just an FYI about that number.

NPD tracked the first week too.

So what are the estimates for PS4?

276k with a lot of confirmation already.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Ps4 didn't have any big games coming out in October, the price drop shouldn't be that big of a difference when everyone is waiting for all the big games in Novemver.

I think we will definitely see the effects of that priced drop this month and the next.

However for Microsoft to only move 300k or so units is disappointing considering Halo is the flagship Xbox title and a big system seller.

This is what I was thinking.

 

[orochi91]

Yeah, I was. I wonder how many views that post had anyway

I'm actually impressed, you brought GAF servers to its knees.

Last time this happened was at Sony's 2015 E3 conference, which simply destroyed the site lmao

 

[opticalmace]

So what are the estimates for PS4?

276k, based on zhuge's combined number.

 

[HORRORSHØW]

what a paltry number

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

Guess we ain't gonna get creampie'd tonight, huh? To bed it is then!

 

[Somnia]

NPD tracked the first week too.


276k with a lot of confirmation already.

NPD only tracked to Oct 31st correct? That wouldn't be the whole week for Halo 5.

 

[BigSoftieFF]

I'm actually impressed, you brought GAF servers to its knees.

Last time this happened was at Sony's 2015 E3 conference, which simply destroyed the site lmao

Pretty much, he should be Elite!! Not junior lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah, I was. I wonder how many views that post had anyway

I was browsing it on Chrome on my phone, and I thought it was my phone at first, lol. Glad to know what really happened.

 

[Conduit]

I predicted 900k for Halo 5 ( without bundles ) in predictions thread. Is above that number or below?

 

[ethomaz]

NPD only tracked to Oct 31st correct? That wouldn't be the whole week for Halo 5.

The whole week for Halo 5 is 5 days ending on Oct 31st lol

 

[Kenzodielocke]

NPD tracked the first week too.


276k with a lot of confirmation already.

276k, based on zhuge's combined number.

So we are looking at a bad performance of both consoles, but worse for XBox One, because Halo 5 released and that did sub 1 million ?

 

[JaggedSac]

Remember they probably gave sell in numbers not sell through. So software would be a larger chunk than that.

But yeah they must be raking in on cash spent on average per consumer

That's true.

 

[super6646]

I'm actually impressed, you brought GAF servers to its knees.

Last time this happened was at Sony's 2015 E3 conference, which simply destroyed the site lmao

It did 10k in around a minute that it lasted.... lol.

 

[Boke1879]

Guess cream won't be in here huh

 

[Obliterator]

That's true.

Hey man I'm kinda thinking you may be right about Halo on PC after seeing these numbers. If not at launch at least a late port. Maybe 1 year later or something

 

[Somnia]

The whole week for Halo 5 is 5 days ending on Oct 31st lol

A whole week would be the next Tuesday, MS would count the first 7 days on sale not the first 5 with that reporting.

Though it honestly doesn't matter, just saying the $400 million was spread further out is all.

 

[De_Legend]

You can if your competition just released it's biggest title/ip that it will ever release in its lifespan and only outsold it by 30k in one region.

In the fing US.. this is some crazy stuff.

Who would've told that a few years ago...

 

[BigSoftieFF]

Guess cream won't be in here huh

I'm giving up, gotta work tomorrow.

 

[opticalmace]

So we are looking at a bad performance of both consoles, but worse for XBox One, because Halo 5 released and that did sub 1 million ?

Who can say. PS4 had that $50 price cut too.

Next month will be interesting for sure.