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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]

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Markoman

Member
So, October in the end "was not interesting". Halo 5 mini-bomba.

Wait, where is this guy who has posted crow-gifs in the MS Halo 5 PR thread, trolling everyone how Halo 5 has a 50-60% digital attach rate?????

If I was him, I would open up a new account :D

Can we all agree on one thing?: Exclusives won't do anything for the Bone, now that their former flagship has sunken. QB, Gears, Fable, Recore, Scalebound won't change a thing.
360 grew with the Dudebros-games, and the Dudebros moved on.
Only something like Minecraft 2 would move the needle.
I bet Gears will do even worse. It's over - but MS can still be the Samsung Galaxy in this game, whilst PS4 is Iphone.
 
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hydrophilic attack

Member
Maybe it's already too late. If Halo launches at below a million. If it only barely manages to push the XBO above 300k. I think the era of traditional gaming might be over. Welcome to a brave new future of F2P mobile games, super-casual CoD lol-shooters and Japanese pedo games. The future of gaming everone! Hope you fucking like it!

I don't think a future without Halo is a future I want to be a part of. Maybe I should just give up on gaming all together.
 
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Trup1aya

Member
Alo0oy said:
The IP was relying on a singular market, it was a bad idea from the start, any change in that market basically kills the entire IP, compared to something that is successful in multiple markets (like Final Fantasy), a decline in one market doesn't mean the IP is dead.
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It's an FPS. What other markets care about the genre?
 
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Impeccable

Member
hydrophilic attack said:
Maybe it's already too late. If Halo launches at below a million. If it only barely manages to push the XBO above 300k. I think the era of traditional gaming might be over. Welcome to a brave new future of F2P mobile games, super-casual CoD lol-shooters and Japanese pedo games. The future of gaming everone! Hope you fucking like it!

I don't think a future without Halo is a future I want to be a part of. Maybe I should just give up on gaming all together.
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Haha the troll posts get funnier each passing month.
 
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leeh

Member
panda-zebra said:
Wasn't trying to be smart, an arse, or a combination of the two.

Filling in the gaps is part of what salesGAF do. But it's important what you attempt to fill them with.
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Feel free to do your own calculations.

I feel it's quite important to gauge this against the same numbers for other games like BF and CoD. It'd be interesting to see the sales numbers between them on Xbox compared to Halo.
 
Y

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
now you all understand my Wow Wowowowo and O_O and "one million" pieces of truth telling factoids I got from my neural network
 
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Alo0oy

Banned
Trup1aya said:
It's an FPS. What other markets care about the genre?
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Call of Duty is very successful in Europe & even Japan, of course not as successful as it is in the US, but it found a huge marketshare in a market that doesn't care about FPS that much. Maybe they should do a genre that appeals to all markets across the board, like an RPG or TPS? It will sell less in the US but other markets can make up to it.

That discussion is moot at this point anyway, since Xbox is dead outside the US/UK, they should have tried harder last gen.
 
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Jumeira

Banned
hydrophilic attack said:
Maybe it's already too late. If Halo launches at below a million. If it only barely manages to push the XBO above 300k. I think the era of traditional gaming might be over. Welcome to a brave new future of F2P mobile games, super-casual CoD lol-shooters and Japanese pedo games. The future of gaming everone! Hope you fucking like it!

I don't think a future without Halo is a future I want to be a part of. Maybe I should just give up on gaming all together.
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Halo isnt going anywhere haha, its still brings in money other titles can only dream of. We'll see how it fares, but Halo 6 is inevitable. Question is how will the positive reception of H5 improve its launch compared to H5. If at all.

gaming_noob said:
Let 343i work on a new franchise. Masterchief and the Halo universe has run its course and will never be as big as it was. I'd like to see them try a WWII FPS that's story based.
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God no! The wonderful thing about Halo is that its not just another military FPS, its fictional, with fictional weapons and vehicles that are finely tuned. Its a well balanced alternative to the COD style shooters. Best thing for 343 is to continue with Halo, theyve proved themselves to be the right people for it. Just get some talented guys in for the story :)
 
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Devilgunman

Member
I can't tell if these salty comments are for real anymore lol


What we've learnt from this month, videogames are doing just fine and first party games doesn't mean jackshit.
 
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Trup1aya

Member
Alo0oy said:
Call of Duty is very successful in Europe & even Japan, of course not as successful as it is in the US, but it found a huge marketshare in a market that doesn't care about FPS that much. Maybe they should do a genre that appeals to all markets across the board, like an RPG or TPS? It will sell less in the US but other markets can make up to it.

That discussion is moot at this point anyway, since Xbox is dead outside the US/UK, they should have tried harder last gen.
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It's a chicken and egg thing, but Halo has always been an FPS, so naturally UK and NA would be the go to market.

COD is an anomaly. And it being a MUltuplatorn title is a large reason why it could find some success outside of the usual territories.

MS has done a number of genre's including TPS and JRPGs... None of them turned out to be huge successes.
 
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SparkTR

Member
Alo0oy said:
The IP was relying on a singular market, it was a bad idea from the start, any change in that market basically kills the entire IP, compared to something that is successful in multiple markets (like Final Fantasy), a decline in one market doesn't mean the IP is dead.

Not that Halo is dead, this is all relative of course.
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I think they wanted to expand looking at Halo Online. The issue there is that those emerging markets that would be receptive to this sort of game are never, ever going to buy Xbox's in droves.
 
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gundamkyoukai

Member
Alo0oy said:
Call of Duty is very successful in Europe & even Japan, of course not as successful as it is in the US, but it found a huge marketshare in a market that doesn't care about FPS that much. Maybe they should do a genre that appeals to all markets across the board, like an RPG or TPS? It will sell less in the US but other markets can make up to it.

That discussion is moot at this point anyway, since Xbox is dead outside the US/UK, they should have tried harder last gen.
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Hell the new COD sold in Japan what Halo 5 did in the UK in the first week .
Which just shows how much they depend on 2 markets .
 
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watdaeff4

Member
I know the thought for Halo 5 is <1million based of assumptions of Cosmic and Harker's comments, but have we gotten any confirmation yet?

Tried going through the pages and didn't see it.

I aw the updated OP with XB1 #'s any for PS4 or WiiU?
 
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jelly

Member
allan-bh said:
Certainly a lot discussions are taking place on Microsoft about what's going on with Halo franchise.

It's an iconic IP for Xbox and they will try to bring back the huge sales. But first they need to identify the problem. Is 343i? Is a natural fatigue? Is a change in the market?

Some things need to change for Halo 6.
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I don't think they make bad games. The simple story has been lost now, masses don't care or can't get into it and when they do something interesting it's just advertising. Single player structure is far too similar to every other FPS. The new abilities are nice but the beats and feel of the campaign aren't Halo enough. 343 are better than competent, very good in fact but they miss the mark in certain areas and knock it out the part elsewhere. Bad story, FPS standard campaign moments, arguably poor art design and underwhelming maps but fantastic player movement, control, weapon feel and punch. They are kinda Bungie flipped although Bungie got better with weapons. Halo 6 ending that story arc will be a blessing and they can rethink the whole thing, do something else. 343 are back up there with multiplayer, maps need to be much better though and campaign has to become more of an experience that isn't a standard FPS template with added Halo gloss.
 
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Alo0oy

Banned
SparkTR said:
I think they wanted to expand looking at Halo Online. The issue there is that those emerging markets that would be receptive to this sort of game are never, ever going to buy Xbox's in droves.
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I sometimes wonder if MS ever had a chance of capturing Europe & RotW, those markets didn't seem fazed with the PS3's astronomical price, I think the Playstation brand was too strong in those markets, some of them even "verbed" the word Playstation, it's hard to win a market where gaming = Playstation.
 
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m@cross

Member
Don't like XB, and Halo bores me, but glad to see it did well this month. Gamers all benefit from a competitive market and if XB1 couldn't win NPD in the month of a true Halo launch, it would be a bad sign for all of us.
 
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Jack The Nipper

Banned
Y2Kev said:
now you all understand my Wow Wowowowo and O_O and "one million" pieces of truth telling factoids I got from my neural network
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Was ur wow all on halo? It's sort of surprising but good.that gamers won't be.pushed around by mcc and what they want. We finally taking a stand is a good thing overall.


I'd still like to see comparisons with assassins
 
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BriGuy

Member
By the time another Halo rolls around, it might be competing with Destiny 2, Titan Fall 2, and CoD: Whatever. I think the series' halcyon days are clearly behind it now. There's just too much competition.
 
E

Elandyll

Banned
Doh... I wake up and no pie for breakfast...

Cream, why hath ye forsaken us so?

/cry

Edit: It's funny that of all scenarios I thought of, it's my "catastrophic" one that prevailed, things being bad all around.
 
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Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
No, but seriously, the "issues" in mobile and casual gaming are obviously migrating to the core now. Costs are escalating, buyers are shrinking. Games need to monetize the crap out of the fanatic gamers that buy them, so everything is microtransaction'd, season pass'd, and "REQPACK"'d to hell. I hope people that like to shit on indie games get over it because I can see a very possible near future where there are 10 or less retail releases per year (excluding sports titles) and the rest is indie.

This has to send a very troubling sign to major publishers that the barbarians are at the gate, so to speak.

Next month will be different, but this is pretty concerning.
 
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Alo0oy

Banned
Y2Kev said:
No, but seriously, the "issues" in mobile and casual gaming are obviously migrating to the core now. Costs are escalating, buyers are shrinking. Games need to monetize the crap out of the fanatic gamers that buy them, so everything is microtransaction'd, season pass'd, and "REQPACK"'d to hell. I hope people that like to shit on indie games get over it because I can see a very possible near future where there are 10 or less retail releases per year (excluding sports titles) and the rest is indie.

This has to send a very troubling sign to major publishers that the barbarians are at the gate, so to speak.

Next month will be different, but this is pretty concerning.
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I don't think that's the case, most games released this year showed huge growth, Halo and AC are the anomaly, & those were the two biggest "broken" games last year.

I think sales are even more consolidating towards the big games, in the PS2 gen everything sold 1+ million, last gen less games were selling 1 million but more games started selling 3+ million.

Now this gen, it seems like every game sells 5+ million, at the expense of smaller AAA games, bigger indies are remedying that imo.
 
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jelly

Member
Alo0oy said:
I sometimes wonder if MS ever had a chance of capturing Europe & RotW, those markets didn't seem fazed with the PS3's astronomical price, I think the Playstation brand was too strong in those markets, some of them even "verbed" the word Playstation, it's hard to win a market where gaming = Playstation.
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Sony had to earn that though. PS3 was rough early on. Some PS2 good will for sure but it was a long road with the PS3 and if Xbox One wasn't a complete balls up, I don't think so many 360 users would have jumped to PS4. Yeah, MS coasted with 360 in the end which probably helped push some users away as well while Sony built up momentum. Xbox One would have been a good challenger without the missteps even with the power of the PlayStation brand, Microsoft just kneecapped themselves.
 
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