The dream is dead
Fucking thieves. Buy games you own not once or twice, but THRICE.
$ony: For the player$.
The dream is dead
Fucking thieves. Buy games you own not once or twice, but THRICE.
$ony: For the player$.
Nintendo got railed brcause they charged an upgrade fee. I was fine with the upgrade fee to help offset the additional work, but people shouldn't have to pay full price for a couple additional features they may not even care about. Why not provide a discount, though maybe there's still a chance???
This is literally the case 90% of the time lol people are going to eat these things up. Ima be one of them I'm a sucker for dark cloudHmmm...guess I'm in the minority here (and the UC4 new character thread lol) that thinks this is awesome news? I'm sorry guys, but the whole playing older games doesn't cut it, I never played any of the ps2 classics even on my PS3, most games look terrible and I would much rather have things remastered and buy stuff over.
This is honestly a case where I think GAF and maybe forums in general is completely out of touch with more mainstream gamers. People are going back playing crash bandicoot, twisted metal black, etc...I mean, I would much rather have remakes and HD emulation.
Yeah, I lost all interest in PS2 backward compatibility when I saw that. Having to download games I already own on disc is mildly annoying. Having to pay to play them again feels like I'm being given a giant middle finger.
Hmmm...guess I'm in the minority here (and the UC4 new character thread lol) that thinks this is awesome news? I'm sorry guys, but the whole playing older games doesn't cut it, I never played any of the ps2 classics even on my PS3, most games look terrible and I would much rather have things remastered and buy stuff over.
This is honestly a case where I think GAF and maybe forums in general is completely out of touch with more mainstream gamers. People are going back playing crash bandicoot, twisted metal black, etc...I mean, I would much rather have remakes and HD emulation.
Are you really a sucker though? I think the people up in arms are a very small part of console gamers. My ps2 is up in some closet somewhere with broken controllers and missing cords. The few games I'm so fond of I want to play again I would happily buy again for higher quality emulation. The gamers that have a hundred game collection of each console in each generation, man you guys just don't represent the market like you think you do. If Sony has an Nintendo like system in place to start putting older games on ps4, I'm in...dunno what the negative posts are about.This is literally the case 90% of the time lol people are going to eat these things up. Ima be one of them I'm a sucker for dark cloud
I just hope Sony provides entire library of PS2. There are lots of great PS2 games I would like to revisit. I'm glad they are offering upgraded visuals and trophy support.
Are 360 games enhanced on Xbox One?
I'd rather pay a reasonable amount to have it in my digital collection, especially if the game is getting a little love in the process.
FFX, X-2, Valkyria Chronicles, Gravity Rush, etc...are not being ignored. They are being bought multiple times. And the pill is not hard to swallow because the last time I bought one of these games was half a decade ago, why would I be upset about buying the same game over. I mean, fan service is nice, it would be cool if some ps2 Classic emulation would be free, or at least some ps1 emulation, but you know that PS3 is still alive and kicking. How much ps1 gaming is going on on that platform I wonder. I feel like people just want this stuff to say "Tks nice guy Sony" but not because they actually want to take advantage of it. Give me a remaster any day of the week.PS1 and PS2 classics is in pretty big part fueled by enthusiast gamers like gaf users. Most "mainstream" gamers will ignore re-releases of games old games like Suikoden or Dark Cloud, whether they're upscaled or not.
Are people expecting Sony to give a remaster of a game for free just because they have the disk? I am sure it costs them money to remaster it and they are not a charity organisation.
These aren't remasters.
FFX, X-2, Valkyria Chronicles, Gravity Rush, etc...are not being ignored. They are being bought multiple times. And the pill is not hard to swallow because the last time I bought one of these games was half a decade ago, why would I be upset about buying the same game over. I mean, fan service is nice, it would be cool if some ps2 Classic emulation would be free, or at least some ps1 emulation, but you know that PS3 is still alive and kicking. How much ps1 gaming is going on on that platform I wonder. I feel like people just want this stuff to say "Tks nice guy Sony" but not because they actually want to take advantage of it. Give me a remaster any day of the week.
This is all done by the emulator. The game's code and assets are unaltered from the original release.1080p and trophies were in the original version?
1080p and trophies were in the original version?
I bought the PS2 Contra games on PSN like a month ago. Not having to re-buy them to play on PS4 would not be "fan service", it would just be common sense. I don't re-buy my mp3s every time I upgrade to a new phone...
This is all done by the emulator. The game's code and assets are unaltered from the original release.
These games will be upscaled to fit the screen, that's all it really is. This shouldn't be compared to actual remasters where the devs go back to touch up the textures and add content.
where did it say that? Sorry must of missed it.
I bought the PS2 Contra games on PSN like a month ago. Not having to re-buy them to play on PS4 would not be "fan service", it would just be common sense. I don't re-buy my mp3s every time I upgrade to a new phone...
This is all done by the emulator. The game's code and assets are unaltered from the original release.
where did it say that? Sorry must of missed it.
These games will be upscaled to fit the screen, that's all it really is. This shouldn't be compared to actual remasters where the devs go back to touch up the textures and add content.
1080p and trophies were in the original version?
Upscaled =/= Increasing internal res.
Upscaling is merely the stretching of the aspect ratio to fit your TV screen. Increasing internal res is actually increasing the resolution of the game to higher than it originally was.
Many remasters such as Dishonored HD really do only increase native res and things like that compared to their last gen counterparts. And although we call them lazy, they are still considered enhanced ports.
Of course this does not detract from your original point, they should not be considered 'new games' that people who already bought them on PSN should buy again, atleast for full price.
"PS2 Classics and PS2-Formatted discs are incompatible with the PS4 system."
Fuck this shit. Especially the PS2 Classics part.
No way in hell I'm purchasing a PS2 game on PSN for the second time.
Is this real? You don't ever have to buy anything over? Like is this real? Just wtf is going on here?
Does it have to be coded on a game-by-game basis or can an emulator do it across every game?
They're incompatible, it doesn't say 'you need to buy them again' (and disc support was never likely to be a thing). Journey PS3 is incompatible with PS4, and yet...
Neither do i buy DVDs every couple years. Problem is there is no universal console or format that plays everything. The closest thing is PC. So yeah your argument seems entitled at best and just weak overall, the gaming industry doesn't have a standard, you can play contra on the system you bought it on.I bought the PS2 Contra games on PSN like a month ago. Not having to re-buy them to play on PS4 would not be "fan service", it would just be common sense. I don't re-buy my mp3s every time I upgrade to a new phone...
This is all done by the emulator. The game's code and assets are unaltered from the original release.
It depends on the emulator in question and the compatibility rate.
For the one Sony is using right now for PS4, it seems they choose different resolutions based on each specific game for best performance metrics.
Since it is old code just running straight through an emulator, not everything is going to just automatically run at full speed i suppose. That CPU of the PS4 is lower than an i3 after all.
Luckily, the horsepower of the PS4 makes it so that every PS4 game will see a huge increase in IQ by default, above 720p at the very least.
Oh, I didn't consider that. Strange wording from their part then.
I guess we'll have to wait a couple of days until we get the full picture.
Lol...yeahfaux rage
Neither do but DVDs every couple years. Problem is there is no universal console or format that plays everything. The closest thing is PC. So yeah your argument seems entitled at best and just weak overall, the gaming industry doesn't have a standard, you can play contra on the system you bought it on.
I was happy, but no disc support can fuck off.
this isn't BC
and no MS aren't doing the same
I don't understand the complaints....
If you already have the game just.... Play it ?