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[Welfare]

No one would believe the old gen number

<75k.

 

[ULTROS!]

Out of curiosity, was SE happy with the LTD numbers? Here's hoping for some more Type-improved FFs.

They thanked everyone and they shipped 1m units WW so it seems like they're happy.

 

[Tivor Tontomo]

PS4 is a dead lock for 100+ million LT at this point

Whoa there. it took them 2+ years to reach 30, they would have to sell a decent amount WW above this year multiple years in a row to reach 100 million in the next 3 years or even be near it.

Remember it took the Xbox 360 and PS4 around 8 years to reach around 90. I know both consoles are selling better, but both consoles were also heavier in the front loading department. We also know that AR and VR are coming in too expensive to change the game and add life, such as what Kinect and to a lesser Extend Move and Wonderbook did for 360 and PS4 sales respectively. Without something to add on to their lives t seems unlikely any will be at 80 let alone 100 million.

Even going up till end of life, because already both consoles have only one SKU, they likely won't have something that will boost their life spans by a great amount, they also are already being sold at pretty cheap prices. While last gen even with multiple Sku's they all got cuts or replaces with similar or a cheaper model, and price cuts did quite a bit in extending the Life of the 360 and PS4. i am afraid the current price wars will remove that benefit for the PS4 and Xbox one. Or in some countries, price war plus bundles filled with incentives.

If the PS4 is to reach 100 million it's got to either have so many games reaching double the output and grabbing tons of exclusive deals, which won't happen because Xbox one is still sell relatively close and well and brinign in tons of money sans japanese developers, or it needs something to boost people interests in the consoles like Kinect or move etc. Which won't LIKELY be VR at the price announced/rumored about.

 

[The Last One]

~60K?

Holy shit.

Oh my... We need GTA 6. PLEASE!

 

[harSon]

PS4 is outselling it 2:1 globally, it is soundly beating the X1.

MS on their beat day never reached that, nowhere near it.

Just because one console is selling at near historic levels, doesn't mean that all other competitors are automatically horse shit by association.

 

[Dead Prince]

I don't think MS will be unhappy with 1.5m versus 1.25m if that ratio continues.

i'm sure they are. considering the games they had for xbox. touting the best game lineup in xbox history. while they beat last year's number they couldn't come out on top against sony. We'll see how they react in the coming weeks. if nothing happens then they are fine with it.

 

[eerik9000]

It's amazing how PS4 is selling like this with no exclusives. Sony will just cater to Indies while Nintendo and MS have AAA exclusives.

Bloodborne, The Order, Until Dawn, MLB, etc. don't count, because they were released before October, right?

 

[borghe]

I bought Yo-Kai. Lile TR, deserving of way more sales. It's a Pokemon game that's actually IN 3D.

 

[Kralamoonard]

Holy shit. It's insane.

(QFNP)

 

[Conduit]

They somehow shipped a million so I would assume so.

Kagari, ~200k for ROTR is on X360/Xbone or just Xbone?

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

Re-posting from the other page because you're throwing names out but not comprehending his tweet.



https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/675091109723394049

There are 9 tombs in the game, so 1 million divided by 9 would be 111k, but it's over that, so expect a bit higher.

The game did sub Type-0 numbers in the US, thanks Kagari for the 200k info there.

Why do you keep repeating this? He was joking lol.

 

[SplitYourInfinities]

/dead

 

[nib95]

Yeah, you guys are in for a real treat. It' a gem.

Oh I've already played and completed it. 95% done with collectibles if I remember rightly. It's a great game, and I have a feeling it'll be even better on the PS4/PC, with improved aiming and likely visuals/frame rate.

 

[kadotsu]

US launch month

Tomb Raider [All Formats] - 644,000
Rise of the Tomb Raider [All Formats] - 200,000 (-69%)

Bonus

Tomb Raider [Xbox 360] - 348,000
Rise of the Tomb Raider [All Formats] - 200,000 (-43%)

UK first week launch

(100%)

Tomb Raider [ALL Formats] - 206,500
Rise of the Tomb Raider [All Formats] - 44,000 (-79%)

Bonus

Tomb Raider [Xbox 360] - 103,000
Rise of the Tomb Raider [Xbox One] - 37,400 (-64%)
Rise of the Tomb Raider [All Formats] - 44,000 (-57%)

Edit: When I was doing this comparison I though that CosmicQueso was referring to Rise of the Tomb Raider when he said 200,000.

Please don't pay attention to this until we have the confirmed number.

The real question is if the GotY candidate The Order 1886 has sold more than RotTR. The European half year data would suggest so.

 

[Tivor Tontomo]

Install base has nothing to do with it? So a title can sell 10 million copies if the platform it's made for has an install base much lower than that? You're exaggerating to the point of being ridiculous.

Install base does not translate to a game selling high. I have no idea how one can argue it does, I jsut gave an example of how the PS2 install base didn't beat Halo or Gamecube yet had popular games in the FPS and platforming genre.

 

[joecanada]

It's amazing how PS4 is selling like this with no exclusives. Sony will just cater to Indies while Nintendo and MS have AAA exclusives.

LOL 6/10, too overused by now, (maybe we will see if anyone takes this bait)

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Halo has a lot of withering to do to become just another exclusive. See Rise of the Tomb Raider.

RotTR is a bomb not seen since The Order.

 

[N.Domixis]

i'm sure they are. considering the games they had for xbox. touting the best game lineup in xbox history. while they beat last year's number they couldn't come out on top against sony. We'll see how they react in the coming weeks. if nothing happens then they are fine with it.

they already cut price again so they are concerned.

 

[Conduit]

No one would believe the old gen number

7-10k?

 

[Bluenoser]

Kagari, ~200k for ROTR is on X360/Xbone or just Xbone?

All platforms combined :/

 

[TheJoRu]

Such a console war in here, a quite embarrassing read so far. PS4 and Xbox One have seemingly had great months, good to see and not surprising considering the great BF-deals both of them had. Interested in seeing how Wii U fared. Lack of Nintendo PR thus far isn't encouraging.

 

[Silent Chief]

I think you mixed Life is Strange with Tomb Raider

I played Underworld and I had no idea what was going on.
If that wasn't episodic, I don't know what is.

 

[GeoramA]

We will remember this TR scenario in our archives

Runner-up behind Konami as the biggest fail of the generation.

 

[DangerMouse]

Wonder what this means for the TR franchise. I hope the Lara Croft series continues since I like that one.

Agreed, I enjoyed the first reboot game.

They somehow shipped a million so I would assume so.

Cool.

 

[jelly]

Who decided the Tomb Raider release date, Square or Microsoft?

 

[GusBricker]

Sad numbers for Tomb Raider for sure, but it's still my GOTY, it was fantastic.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

That is crazy.

I have to be honest, I thought PS4 sales would start winding down by now. Seems both consoles are doing pretty decent all around.

Wait, hold up....that changes the dynamic drastically. Didn't PS2 have a Nov. of 1.7 million at one point?

 

[Welfare]

Bloodborne, The Order, Until Dawn, MLB, etc. don't count, because they were released before October, right?

I thought the calender goes October November December and there is 273 days of nothing.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Lets just hope this does not ruin the franchise going forward.

 

[Alebrije]

So WiiU numbers are by 250,000 consoles sold?

 

[tapedeck]

ROTR is such a fantastic game, deserved better, hopefully it has legs for the next few months.

 

[shandy706]

when you look at it from a grander scales of WW sales, Sony is doing great, Microsoft not so much. also losing your biggest market to Sony is seriously bad thing.

I see one doing great and one doing incredible.

I'm an optimist though, lol.

The all or nothing society of today is annoying.

 

[Kralamoonard]

I thought the calender goes October November December and there is 273 days of nothing.

And remember, Japanese games and indies don't count.

 

[Chobel]

For Tomb Raider? Only thing that would surprise me is if NBA Live 16 did better.

He is talking about hardware, apparently less than 100K.

 

[Dash Kappei]

PS4 beating X1's best month ever, Tomb Raider's uncharted, crazy ass month

 

[ethomaz]

Thanks!

Is there a source?

Yes you can read it in any major outlet site like IGN.

I'm on phone now

 

[Kill3r7]

Wait, hold up....that changes the dynamic drastically. Didn't PS2 have a Nov. of 1.7 million at one point?

Nope, 1.3.

 

[TrebuchetGames]

The real question is if the GotY candidate The Order 1886 has sold more than RotTR. The European half year data would suggest so.

They must ... have considered that the drop off was going to be big... I'm sure they would have wanted more sales, but missing out PC and PS4, they must have known what effect it would have.

If they didnt... then gah...

 

[SmoothRunningGun]

the fact is halo 5 sold way less than previous entries.

Yeah I don't know why people think #8 is good for a Halo game.

 

[Pancake Mix]

Why do you keep repeating this? He was joking lol.

I stopped because we have ~200k now. Why quote it now? Also, it was less off the mark than the figure from a banned source that I won't repeat that was posted here.

 

[Welfare]

And remember, Japanese games and indies don't count.

What's a Japan and why would someone vote for the independent?

 

[SPAW]

Close to 200K for Rise of the Tomb Raider? Jesus christ.

So sad. worst business decision post Wada by SE.

 

[therealbigrich]

it's all about being on top of everything.

I don't know about that . I mean is consoles the only business that happens cause I doubt coming in second in other industries causes the same result

 

[xxracerxx]

Lets just hope this does not ruin the franchise going forward.

It shouldn't. We will probably see the PC/PS4 version of RotTR sooner than expected I would hope.

 

[nib95]

So ~200k for RotTR includes Xbox One and 360? What is the Xbox One only number?

 

[Mahonay]

PS4 beating X1's best month ever, Tomb Raider's uncharted, crazy ass month

New thread subtitle?

 

[Frozenprince]

Bungie started the downfall but 343 continued. They knew people hated Reach but they went even further with it in 4, then had the MCC problems. And then 5 has the worse story in the series, with a marketing campaign dedicated to something that isn't even a main focus of the story.

343 did the damage. Destiny really has nothing to do with it.

What killed Halo has nothing to do with 343 or Bungie or MS.

It has to do with the fact that the casual public simply moved on from arena based twitch shooters, they don't control the casual market base the used too, that's it.

 

[mangochutney]

i'm sure they are. considering the games they had for xbox. touting the best game lineup in xbox history. while they beat last year's number they couldn't come out on top against sony. We'll see how they react in the coming weeks. if nothing happens then they are fine with it.

Yes but when you consider the bad sentiment toward the console, and the power of the networking effect then the ratio isn't too bad.

 

[kadotsu]

It's amazing how PS4 is selling like this with no exclusives. Sony will just cater to Indies while Nintendo and MS have AAA exclusives.

 

[Raist]

Does anyone have comprehensive data on best november sales?

IIRC the Wii did 2Msomething in its best year. Not sure about the 360 though.