Sure. But fuck man, the damage is done already with these TR numbers for XB1/X360. I think the lesson has been learned, Spencer has stated as much.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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WordsintheWater
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Much appreciated
Yeah I thought that 1.5m number was off. I definitely think Uncharted 4 can surpass that.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
How? Where? On what system?Nah, it'll pick up again in a year or so
There's not any room for it to do that w/ the constant flux of new games coming out next year, especially next holiday season which is probably the earliest the PS4 version'll come out.
Just let it go y'all. She dead again.
Why would it do better? Xbone/PS4 were basically selling cheaper than WiiU during holiday sales given all the bundle/gift card deals.
ninjablade
Banned
Yea third party's have really stepped there game up last gen, your average gamer doesn't really care much about exlusives anymore. Shit, when you think about gtav or cod alone will sell more consoles then all exlusives combined.
Expected given its combined sales and Halo second month? But yeah, Halo in its days would have slaughtered most.
I think it's more Activision etc. turning their back or perhaps Microsoft knew they were screwed this generation early on so didn't bother wasting the money. I've always wondered if it actually matters, 360 was better, PS4 is better, would the exclusive marketing and early access favour PS3 and Xbox One instead even though 360 and PS4 are better, I kinda doubt that.
TheKastorian
Member
If Rise of the Tomb Raider was out on PS4 I would have bought it. And honestly, would prefer it over other AAA games, like Fallout 4. Hopefully the game stays relevant on PS4 next fall but I doubt it :/. Squeenix kinda messed up with this deal. They might have still made a profit through the "collaboration" with Microsoft, but this will damage the Tomb Raider IP. Who's going to get excited for another sequel at this point?
It it a multi-plat correct did it outsell halo on Xbox one.
Nah, it'll pick up again in a year or so
Against Horizon, TLG, Mass Effect Andromeda, Gears of War 4, COD 2016, Battlefield and whatever other big title will show up, as a 1 year old sloppy third?
I'm sure it will sell some, perhaps even better than what it sold on XB1 this year, but I don't think it'll sell anywhere near what it could have as a brand new title tbh.
But it's Halo 5... and it launched around the of October. If you weren't going buy at launch, I would imagine that people would be hunting for that around Black Friday week.
Think about it.
Where do you see this happening?
Halo is not Halo anymore.
Pristine_Condition
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BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
So clearly my prediction for Xbox one taking Oct-Nov-Dec was wrong. With these numbers, I don't think even December is possible now.
But I atleast got two things right,
1). Both console will be up YoY, in last NPD thread a dude got too defensive and was calling me delusional LMAO no time to find the post.
2). COD still pulls big numbers on Xbox. I remember lot of people were saying COD crowd has moved, etc. Had a good discussion when the marketing deal was announced. But majority of people refused to believe.
Again, COD will end up selling more WW on PS4. But that's because of the higher installbase, 2:1. and not because of the marketing deal.
But I atleast got two things right,
1). Both console will be up YoY, in last NPD thread a dude got too defensive and was calling me delusional LMAO no time to find the post.
2). COD still pulls big numbers on Xbox. I remember lot of people were saying COD crowd has moved, etc. Had a good discussion when the marketing deal was announced. But majority of people refused to believe.
Again, COD will end up selling more WW on PS4. But that's because of the higher installbase, 2:1. and not because of the marketing deal.
Need for Speed games always push big numbers, both good and bad entries to the series. I don't understand how the NFS name is still so damn strong after so many years.
Nope.
jmaine_ph
Member
Yup just looking at the charts year after year you see the same games in the top 10. Your best bet to get these consoles in the homes are to partner with the major third parties then you bring the exclusives but not at the same time of year if you ask me.
The Mad Draklor
Member
If there was a Top 20, it still wouldn't have made it.
Halo is the Halo killer.
Sony released 4 home consoles. 3 of 4 were dominant and all 4 sold well. And you think it is an accident.
MaineUPTDC
Banned
Nintendo's market cap is $21.67 billion, Microsoft's is $441.5 billion.......you do the math.
Microsoft can afford to buy Nintendo and Sony and laugh til the cows come home.
Regarding marketing deals, those were shifting more towards Sony this generation regardless of the hardware outcome.
To publishers:
Playstation --> worldwide brand
Xbox --> US and UK brand
It isn't like MS stopped trying for marketing deals. They just weren't going to get as many. With the PS4 selling as fast as it is worldwide this will shift more in the favor of Playstation. Look at the 180 EA has taken, even before the holiday season hit.
To publishers:
Playstation --> worldwide brand
Xbox --> US and UK brand
It isn't like MS stopped trying for marketing deals. They just weren't going to get as many. With the PS4 selling as fast as it is worldwide this will shift more in the favor of Playstation. Look at the 180 EA has taken, even before the holiday season hit.
If it releases in November it's going to be up against another onslaught of heavy hitters. The team did a great job though. Hopefully MS gave SE enough money to cover a situation like this so that we see a sequel on schedule.
boredandlazy
Member
Ooooph, geez...
A portion of those sales arnt counted due to it being bundled too right? If your comparing combined NFS sales against Halo 2nd month, its not surprising, considering what has been revealed last month. I'd assume things would be quite different in individual charts
Yeah, I know you're referring to me. I apologize for being so harsh at the time. It just seemed very unlikely for the XB1 to up YoY and many others thought so too. On the bright side, both consoles did really well.
SomedayTheFire
Member
You're hilarious.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Microsoft can, but can the gaming division afford it?
Trogdor1123
Member
Maybe this halp tr come to ps4 earlier... Please
Of course they can.
KurtSloane
Banned
And none of that is going to happen so its all a lot of bollocks.
Alebrije
Member
Yep NX is a must for Nintendo for 2016.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
all cool bruh.
That's not how it works, that's not how any of it works.
You can't buy something that's not on sale at the first place. What's wrong with you people.
With this logic, MS can buy EA, Activision, Sony, Nintendo all together because they have almost 90 billion of cash reserved.
Anyway, games sold well on PS4 so ROTR will sell well especially at 40$/
Just don't face off Mass Effect or any big franchise for the release haha
The weird thing is now I'm hearing on multiple podcasts they don't think it will happen.
MaineUPTDC
Banned
Of course it won't happen, but to question their affordability to do so is also a lot of bollocks
Tivor Tontomo
Member
I'm not downplaying anything, I am using the current sales and increases and what caused the PS4 to increase.
The PS4 would have to sell more than this year by a decent amount for multiple years to reach 100 million by say 2019-2020. So any time before that is even mroe questionable.
The PS3 and the Xbox 360 had life extending events, so did the PS2. I'm being realistic, what does the PS4, and even the Xbox one, have to extend their lifes to bring back in large sale numbers? Already the PS4 and Xbox one are doing price wars, which will make price no too big of a factor for the latter part of life then it would have been.
We don't see any Kinect or move type devices in sight so far...VR and AR are priced too high to bring in the Kinect/Move etc. Boost.
I mean youa re expecting the PS4 to cross 10 million in the next 3 years, they would have to sell over double this years to do that for 2 of those 3 years, how are they goign to do that?
The PS2 example is flawed because the PS2 had multiple life extending properties, a few of those were online, Eye toy, Cheaper price, PS3 not taking off, dying of Xbox and Gamecube making PS2 games being prominent on shelves (which the Xbox being the main competition in NA and UK, being pulled from shelves before everyone else.), Slim revisions, and TP exclusives, and having mostly the sole market for downgraded cheaper versions of then next gen games.
There's more as well but that's already a huge factor of how the PS2 got to 155 million and 100 million. The PS4 has few if any of this.
What's going to cause PS4 sales to explode or be nearly or tripling what it sold this year for multiple years? The PS4 has tons of factors the PS2 and even the PS3 DO NOT have that will prevent a runaway such as that.
The PS4 has the Xbox one chomping at Marketshare, and to a lesser extend the Wii u, and with the market Nintendo had before being gone the Wii u is in the same market at the PS4 and the Xbox One.
You have the PS4 and Xbox one already doing price and incentive wars world wide and more importantly, in the biggest console buying countries (which if not mistaken are U.S., Britain and Germany). The NX will release soon and will likely takes sales. A lot of games are shared between the PS4 and Xbox One. The PS4 is not running away in the biggest console buying countries with the exceptions of Germany. PS4 sales are down in Japan, PS4 does not have the PS2 sales for piracy in South and Central America and rumorly, is losing to Xbox in the region.
The PS2 had to deal with very little of this and when it did in some form it was usually removed later, or it didn't do much damage.
Your 360/PS4 example is also bad, because as I have said repeatedly, the 360 and PS3 had events that extended their lives and also still had and HAVE the choice of dropping the price more to gain even more sales. $99 or below Xbox 360's and PS3';s would sell, they gradually decreased the prices of each and that gave a lot of sales. Also again and again, Kinect, move, updates, etc. etc.
There's a 1 week gap between Halo 5 and NFS release dates.
And it's fucking HALO. You know, an IP for which each main entry sold multiple millions in the first couple of weeks.