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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]

Futurematic

Member
You think Sony or any company for that matter would tell you we're delaying a game 4+ months because the release schedule is too packed?

Movie studios do so all the time. But yeah, the games industry is immature and clinging to outdated models of marketing and PR.

Heck people enjoy watching TV more when it has been spoiled for them… I wonder if there's a lesson for games in there.
 
COD selling more on Xbox is completely expected. Just like how last gen a game like Final Fantasy sold more on PS3 despite the base difference. It's where the majority of that audience is. But that definitely doesn't mean Sony's partnership didn't do its job. I honestly can't imagine what the gap would be if activision stayed with MS for the marketing/DLC deal. The massive gap from the past was 100% closed by sony acquiring the rights for it.

Also it's nice to see Mulcair found work after the election.
 

Somnia

Member
Here are the numbers from ZhugeEX regarding Halo 5.

[/ZhugeEX ‏@ZhugeEX · Dec 9
Halo 5's first week sales in the US = >1.3m (Inc DD)
Halo 3's first week sales in the US = >3.3m

First mainline Halo games on 360 & One.

Note he made an update that Halo 3's 3.3 was actually first two weeks (but I'm just posting about Halo 5 #'s we all know its a massive decline already)

So week 1 in October Halo 5 did 1.3 million w/ retail, bundles and digital.

I could see Halo 5 being close to 2 million in the US end of November.
 

Yurikerr

This post isn't by me, it's by a guy with the same username as me.
Sure!

Electronic Arts's leading title, and the third-best seller of the November 2015 U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Channel) report sold 2.10 million unit sales including bundles, or 1.725 million units looking at the software side of things.


So if we look at the top three software when doing a like-to-like comparison factoring in all bundle sales, we have:

1.) Call of Duty: Black Ops III - (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC | Actvision Blizzard)
4.89 million unit sales including bundles

2.) Fallout 4 (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Bethesda Softworks)
2.54 million unit sales including bundles

3.) Star Wars: Battlefront (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Electronic Arts)
2.10 million unit sales including bundles

Wow, battlefront sold a lot of bundles! Almost 400K

Sony will wreck it in december
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Sure!

Electronic Arts's leading title, and the third-best seller of the November 2015 U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Channel) report sold 2.10 million unit sales including bundles, or 1.725 million units looking at the software side of things.


So if we look at the top three software when doing a like-to-like comparison factoring in all bundle sales, we have:

1.) Call of Duty: Black Ops III - (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC | Actvision Blizzard)
4.89 million unit sales including bundles

2.) Fallout 4 (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Bethesda Softworks)
2.54 million unit sales including bundles

3.) Star Wars: Battlefront (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Electronic Arts)
2.10 million unit sales including bundles

I'd like to note that people who think Battlefront is bombing seem off target, especially given that EA's target is 13 million units by March 2016, and Fallout 4 shipped 12 million units day one and is barely ahead of it.
 

Toki767

Member
Sure!

Electronic Arts's leading title, and the third-best seller of the November 2015 U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Channel) report sold 2.10 million unit sales including bundles, or 1.725 million units looking at the software side of things.


So if we look at the top three software when doing a like-to-like comparison factoring in all bundle sales, we have:

1.) Call of Duty: Black Ops III - (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC | Actvision Blizzard)
4.89 million unit sales including bundles

2.) Fallout 4 (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Bethesda Softworks)
2.54 million unit sales including bundles

3.) Star Wars: Battlefront (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Electronic Arts)
2.10 million unit sales including bundles

Interesting. So if Star Wars PS4 bundles accounted for 375K sales and COD PS4 bundles were around 280K, that puts the Uncharted PS4 bundle at around 880K.

Do you mind sharing the SKU breakdown for Xbox One bundles?
 

ZOONAMI

Junior Member
COD selling more on Xbox is completely expected. Just like how last gen a game like Final Fantasy sold more on PS3 despite the base difference. It's where the majority of that audience is. But that definitely doesn't mean Sony's partnership didn't do its job. I honestly can't imagine what the gap would be if activision stayed with MS for the marketing/DLC deal. The massive gap from the past was 100% closed by sony acquiring the rights for it.

Also it's nice to see Mulcair found work after the election.

I think it's surprising given the huge split in user base and exclusive marketing deal with Sony.

Wish I wouldn't have fallen for the marketing deal, then I'd be playing with my sweet elite controller instead of the ds4.
 

nib95

Banned
No. That is currently the highest month 1 digital split. It's a very impressive number.

It is impressive indeed. A fair bit above the average for splits, but obviously not at the range some predicted....

Any number for Halo 5 this month, and Ltd so for in the US?

Edit: Just saw your Ltd edit above.
 

Raist

Banned
The month 1 split for H5 was just about 67:33 in favor of physical excluding bundles.

Takes life to date, physical and digital, excluding bundles, to the 1.5-1.6 range. Sure someone has a bundle number somewhere. Throw that on top.

For a mainline Halo game. That isn't good, even on one platform.

So ~1356 first month total then.

Biggest Halo launch ever indeed.
 
Sure!

Electronic Arts's leading title, and the third-best seller of the November 2015 U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Channel) report sold 2.10 million unit sales including bundles, or 1.725 million units looking at the software side of things.


So if we look at the top three software when doing a like-to-like comparison factoring in all bundle sales, we have:

1.) Call of Duty: Black Ops III - (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC | Actvision Blizzard)
4.89 million unit sales including bundles

2.) Fallout 4 (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Bethesda Softworks)
2.54 million unit sales including bundles

3.) Star Wars: Battlefront (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Electronic Arts)
2.10 million unit sales including bundles

Halo 5 numbers please?
 

leeh

Member
The month 1 split for H5 was just about 67:33 in favor of physical excluding bundles.

Takes life to date, physical and digital, excluding bundles, to the 1.5-1.6 range. Sure someone has a bundle number somewhere. Throw that on top.

For a mainline Halo game. That isn't good, even on one platform.
It will never be higher than 20% they said, low to mid 30's were ridiculous they said.
 
I think it's surprising given the huge split in user base and exclusive marketing deal with Sony.
I guess I just don't see the the surprise. The Xbox audience IS the call of duty audience. It's their bread and better. For a ton of Xbox gamers it's why they bought an xbox.

The fact that Sony closed the gap as much as they did is crazy to me.
 

ZOONAMI

Junior Member
I guess I just don't see the the surprise. The Xbox audience IS the call of duty audience. It's their bread and better. For a ton of Xbox gamers it's why they bought an xbox.

The fact that Sony closed the gap as much as they did is crazy to me.

I thought PS4 has largely stolen away the Xbox audience ;)

Guess that explains the gap closing.
 

johnny956

Member
Movie studios do so all the time. But yeah, the games industry is immature and clinging to outdated models of marketing and PR.

Heck people enjoy watching TV more when it has been spoiled for them… I wonder if there's a lesson for games in there.

Yea movie studios will straight up admit why they are moving a date. I don't think I've ever seen a video game publisher do the same. If someone has an example it would be news to me
 
Sure!

Electronic Arts's leading title 'Star Wars: Battlefront,' the third-best seller of the November 2015 U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Channel) report, sold 2.10 million unit sales including bundles, or 1.725 million units looking at the software side of things.


So if we look at the top three software when doing a like-to-like comparison factoring in all bundle sales, we have:

1.) Call of Duty: Black Ops III - (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC | Actvision Blizzard)
4.89 million unit sales including bundles

2.) Fallout 4 (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Bethesda Softworks)
2.54 million unit sales including bundles

3.) Star Wars: Battlefront (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Electronic Arts)
2.10 million unit sales including bundles

Wow, that's more BF bundles than I would have thought. Going to be interesting to see how much staying power it has, but it looks like it should hit EA's expectations.
 

leeh

Member
90% they said.....
Never said that, I simply used my mates as a trend as to more people were buying digital as they all used to buy physical. I said numerous times in the same and subsequent threads that I believed it would be 30-40. People just ran with the 9:1 thing. Not surprising though, it was funny.
 

nib95

Banned
It will never be higher than 20% they said, low to mid 30's were ridiculous they said.

Most predictions were actually for 20-30%. Yours went from above 50%, to 90%, even 900% (which obviously was a typo as it's mathematically impossible).
 

Josman

Member
Wait, so the Steam version of Fallout 4 sold close to PS4/Xbone combined numbers? Steam Spy has it at over 2million, that's pretty impressive if so.
 
From brilliant minds that brought you "Preseason"

Xbox is "not just for christmas" anymore

preseason.png
 

Toki767

Member
Never said that, I simply used my mates as a trend as to more people were buying digital as they all used to buy physical. I said numerous times in the same and subsequent threads that I believed it would be 30-40. People just ran with the 9:1 thing. Not surprising though, it was funny.

To be fair, Halo 5 is probably not at 30% digital anymore.
 

Boke1879

Member
I'd like to note that people who think Battlefront is bombing seem off target, especially given that EA's target is 13 million units by March 2016, and Fallout 4 shipped 12 million units day one and is barely ahead of it.

I think people think 13 million sell in by March is too much. I do think the game will sell over 10 million plus lifetime sales though. Especially with this new promotion with ps4.
 

Saty

Member
Cosmic, any color regarding NFS and how it compared to Rivals or previous entries? Did the year break pay off? Did the awful reviews damage it? Is the IP in danger of joining EA's benched franchises?
 
To be fair, Halo 5 is probably not at 30% digital anymore.

Declines over time, yes. Excluding H5 and TKK, month 1 dig split looks like is averaging somewhere around 15-20% for the top 10 right now but is growing. H5 dig split is an upside outlier.

Cosmic, any color regarding NFS and how it compared to Rivals or previous entries? Did the year break pay off? Did the awful reviews damage it? Is the IP in danger of joining EA's benched franchises?

Good bump. I guess so. Haven't seemed to. No idea.
 

panda-zebra

Banned
From brilliant minds that brought you "Preseason"

Xbox is "not just for christmas" anymore

preseason.png

Ummm... give a dog a bone?

"A dog is for life, not just for xmas", all about the responsibility required throughout the year and the rest of its life... maybe this means Uncle Phil and co. are going to care more for their bone during pre-season.
 

johnny956

Member
I think people think 13 million sell in by March is too much. I do think the game will sell over 10 million plus lifetime sales though. Especially with this new promotion with ps4.

Yea it'll be close, 2.1 million in November. Guess it comes down to how well it'll sell in December. With the Battlefront bundle being $299 I'd imagine they'll get a nice boost from that. Did we get UK numbers for November or just first week for it?
 

Chris1

Member
In all fairness, would it have entered the charts even if it was multi?

I mean, #8 was freekin Halo and #9 AssCreed..

The "Fuck sake MS" wasn't about the exclusivity, it was more about the lack of advertising/mass bundling. The release date didn't help either but mass advertisement or bundling could have helped offset that a tiny bit. I still can't believe it wasn't bundled to the high heavens like AC last year.. just completely baffles me.

If it was multi it probably would have charted but regardless I still think it would have sold poorly if it was sent out to die like it was. It's just a shame, it really is one of the best games this year and MS sent it out to die for no reason. The game deserves to be played.
 

pastrami

Member
Declines over time, yes. Excluding H5 and TKK, month 1 dig split looks like is averaging somewhere around 15-20% for the top 10 right now but is growing. H5 dig split is an upside outlier.

So do you have access to digital splits for games? I'm curious how well PSN/Xbox Store sales do. Sony and Microsoft have been getting pretty good with digital discounts, but I wonder if they make a dent when it comes to overall sales like they do on PC.
 

leeh

Member
Most predictions were actually for 20-30%. Yours went from above 50%, to 90%, even 900% (which obviously was a typo as it's mathematically impossible).
No I didn't. I went with 50% to begin with, then lowered that after seeing the financial report from EA. I thought it would of been higher LTD. I never thought it'd outsell physical. I was joking when I said that digital outsold physical by 900%.
To be fair, Halo 5 is probably not at 30% digital anymore.
Agree with that as well, I kept on stating that I thought the higher perecentage was for launch week, the week of numbers which the thread was made for.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
I'd like to note that people who think Battlefront is bombing seem off target, especially given that EA's target is 13 million units by March 2016, and Fallout 4 shipped 12 million units day one and is barely ahead of it.

It's also true that Fallout 4 (which had a fantastic first month, especially when you include PC sales) probably saw a massive overshipment at day one, I don't know how much I'd consider that as an example to follow (even if, again, sales to customers are fantastic, way more than most of us was expecting).

Battlefront is doing a bit less than what I was expecting: I thought it could be around 2.2-2.4 millions without bundles being considered. But, again, this is a game that should receive a pretty good push this month, thanks to The Force Awakens, thus it's way too soon to say its sales are "disappointing" compared to the forecasted target (without considering it, those are big sales as well, and the bundle sold very well too).
 

FerDS

Member
Never said that, I simply used my mates as a trend as to more people were buying digital as they all used to buy physical. I said numerous times in the same and subsequent threads that I believed it would be 30-40. People just ran with the 9:1 thing. Not surprising though, it was funny.


As I remember you started by saying that people were "mad if they didn't think digital isn't drastically outselling physical"
 
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