People resorting to calling Miyamoto and Co. old and dinosaurs as a means to shun them, champing at the bit for their retirement is high in the list of things that piss me off on this forum, the nonchalant ways in which they brush off their accolades is just as entertaining. Have some tact please.
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Kimishima: Young Generation of Nintendo Developers to Lead Forefront of NX and Mobile
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flatearthpandas
Member
This is really interesting news. Excited to see what they've got in store; hopefully a nice mix between the old and new.
The saltiness of Smash Bros. fans sustains him and keeps him young
Wow, that shows that you don't actually know what Miyamoto does. Miyamoto has managed to turn the direction of games so many times and make them be utter classics, even when they aren't his games. Yes, that hasn't always worked (Sticker Star), but successes far outweigh the failures. Saying he needs retirement just because of his age is disgusting.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Yep, no respect.
I bet all these young whippersnappers learned most of what they know about game design from the likes of Miyamoto, etc...
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
SM64 seems like a starting point for a very good hubworld, removing it did not make the game better in and of itself.
Orniletter
Banned
Yeah, in contrast to all those western manager positions at SCE Japan Studio, Capcom, Namco Bandai, SE Japan, Tecmo Koei .
Literally scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something to complain about.
Some people are of the belief that hiring a western manager will suddenly turn everything around and they'd suddenly appeal more to western audiences.
GhostTrick
Banned
I dunno. I wouldn't mind if Nintendo bought a couple of western studios like Sony has. Also give some autonomy back to NoA. NoA/NST used to make some things like 1080 Avalanche, it wouldn't hurt to rebuild more in the west.
The games don't have to aim squarely at Sony or MS's audiences, there was a time when Nintendo had Conker's Bad Fur Day. They need some diversification in this area.
The games don't have to aim squarely at Sony or MS's audiences, there was a time when Nintendo had Conker's Bad Fur Day. They need some diversification in this area.
Dog Pile on the Rabbit
Member
Miyamoto will probably still be at Nintendo when he is a hundred and ninety. And when he finally does pass on he will likely use his ghost powers to upend tea tables all throughout the company.
Deals with iTunes and other music publishing places would be nice. I like that there are all these Pokemon soundtracks there now from the Pokemon Company. I mean, if they can't get CD's over, or if they're all limited run, iTunes worldwide would be great for everyone after the run is over. Also would be neat if their new account system could also give you coupon codes for their stuff on iTunes. I mean, they do seem to want the account system to be robust and reach more people.
Possumowner
Member
Have to say I think this is great news,shows confidence and trust to the young generation of Nintendo staff...and those,strangely attacking Miyamoto should hang your heads in shame
It's not just one thing with them, though.
Nintendo World Store Exclusive was a long-running joke for a lot of people. That's unfortunately the reality of Nintendo, even today. Look at how much Splatoon merchandise Japan gets. What's NOA/NOE got to show for it? Those Kid Icarus AR cards that were such a huge deal for the game weren't even sold in stores in NA. I'm sure there's tons of other examples out there as well. It's this kind of thing that makes those audiences shun Nintendo after a while since it's one thing in a pile of other frustrating things they do.
This is a good point too. I'd love for more of this stuff to come over and hit more stores. Splatoon is doing well and it needs more merchandise on store shelves outside of just the amiibo. I want some shirts and hats even if it's store exclusive like Wal-Mart or Target.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Aren't they renaming the World Store as Nintendo New York? I hope this means they'll launch specialty stores across the US (Not like retail chain though, they probably gotta be special destinations.
I hope so. I hope there is at least one close by where I am in Texas, but I have my doubts one will show up in Texas.
Joelstinton14
Member
I hope so. I think Nintendo can look quite insular at times, with Iwata, Miyamoto and Reggie being the public face of the company.
I would imagine a lot of good stuff goes on behind doors and i can't see why Nintendo shouldn't celebrate that.
Having the Treehouse stuff at E3 was a great way to start showing people the Nintendo beyond Miyamoto , Iwata and Reggie etc. And Iwata asks, and using Shiabata and Bill for directs too.
To be honest i think the industry in general would benefit for people knowing more about developers and the development process. There are a few household names, but it not quite the same vane as knowing about Film Directors.
I would imagine a lot of good stuff goes on behind doors and i can't see why Nintendo shouldn't celebrate that.
Having the Treehouse stuff at E3 was a great way to start showing people the Nintendo beyond Miyamoto , Iwata and Reggie etc. And Iwata asks, and using Shiabata and Bill for directs too.
To be honest i think the industry in general would benefit for people knowing more about developers and the development process. There are a few household names, but it not quite the same vane as knowing about Film Directors.
DaSorcerer7
Member
All of these moves started under the old guard and initiated under Iwata's leadership (RIP).
Basically this, although he stopped directing games in like 2008... :/
the thoroughbred
Member
Nintendo's team are warlords. Even their young'ns are geniuses. Their shit shits on everything else. Or as The JZ would say the whole team ball.
I keep hearing this about TP's development. Do you have any sources for that? I'd love to read about it in greater detail.
Earthpainting
Member
Whoa what. This is new to me, and my Google-fu is turning up empty. Do you have a link?
test_account
XP-39C²
To be fair, he didnt say that he needs to retire just because of his age. He says its because of the games that he have made more recently. That said, his age doesnt really matter that much. Creativity isnt bound by age.
TheMoon
Member
Your momma is region free.
Seriously, though. Assuming you're serious with the question: nobody knows. Last we heard from Iwata is that it was under "positive consideration" for the next platforms.
Western R&D manager will probably put microtransations in every singke game.No thanks.
This sounds exciting if they can pull it off.
Sakurai found the fountain ofdreams youth.
My appearance is a loophole
Sakurai found the fountain of
they talk about it in some detail here:
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wii/twilight_princess/0/3
in 2004, mitsuhiro takano was supposedly going to be the director while eiji aonuma was made publisher. then something happened that year and aonuma became the director (for the last time), and miyamoto assumed the role of producer. takano was the cutscene director and did other work on the game.
support for this idea is the conversation directly preceding the above quote:
yeah, i get the idea takano had his role severely reduced. he seems to know most about the changes that were made to the final product. at least, he talks about them more than anyone.
DrROBschiz
Member
Holy shit!
Some real NX news!
And some good news too!
Its about time they cash in their new talent. Miyamoto cant be ruining games forever
Some real NX news!
And some good news too!
Its about time they cash in their new talent. Miyamoto cant be ruining games forever
DaSorcerer7
Member
He's using up all the Nintendo magic.
Why is that bad?
Ah Wii Music, the game that is probably talked about more by those who have never even played it than those who have. The E3 showing was just extremely poor and not at all reflective of the final product.
……forgetit
Member
They aren't THAT young. I think most of them are in their 30s.
Why exactly should they not do this?
Most of the young people they have and have hired over the years are also fans of other games not made by Nintendo and made by Nintendo. Many also have nostalgia for older games too. Yusuke Amano being a fan of Perfect Dark. Don't forget that Splatoon came about because the devs are fans of shooters and wanted to make one of their own.
Plus as TheTrin brought up earlier in the thread, not allowing younger generations to have active roles in a company is a common problem in Japan in general. Nintendo is bucking this trend and that's a good thing. It will offer newer perspectives, new ideas, filling in gaps in genres (like Splatoon), even revitalization of a company.
The new blood will have a better understanding of what's cool too. Back in the hayday, Mario was cool, then Sonic was cool, then Crash Bandicoot was cool (I think?). So having a younger perspective helps here too.
Just like any other game out there.. What's your point?
GhostTrick
Banned
Because its crowded market and it always was a fable that if Nintendo had 1st parties and 3rd parties, they would be the defacto winners.
People are tied to brands and ecosystems.
TheMoon
Member
No they're not. They're usually cheaper than most other games.
……forgetit
Member
It's also the biggest market and Nintendo's is shrinking to non-existance. They can't just invent a new market out of thin air like the Wii, those customers have moved on.
GhostTrick
Banned
Despite numerous flaws, Nintendo is still on a 70M units consoles sold market. I doubt that the key to growth is to be a "me too !! " but rather to offer sth others dont.
I reaaaallly don't agree with your examples (TP is the most boring mainline Zelda, SMG1 > SMG2, etc), but I agree being a good designer is more than coming up with interesting ideas. It's also being able to scope, get shit done and have a keen sense of what will turn a profit, and this is invaluable experience that Miyamoto will always have above younger designers.
Still, the man is and always has been a toy designer at heart, and it shows in his recent games which tend to be more gimmicky and eschew growth or stories, compared with contemporaries in the industry. On the one hand this is what makes Nintendo great and always has, but also led to a sometimes monomanic approach to games.
TheDinoman
Member
The thing is, the railshooting segments made up only about 1/3 of the game. The bulk of Uprising was on-foot as an TPS/action game hybrid.
OrbitalBeard
Member
It's definitely pathetic and it makes those users look incredibly ignorant.
TheMoon
Member
Most definitely.
Even the Kimishima praise that's resulting from this, as if it's not obvious that they didn't think up of all of this stuff in the last month and all of this has been conceptualized under Iwata and has been in the works for a long time. It's just sad that it's only now starting to bear fruit and he couldn't really see it through to the end himself.