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[knerl]

Hitman game gets repetitive?

I knew I shouldn't have got my hopes up for this. I know, I know..only one review, one opinion but repetitive and Hitman should never be uttered in the same sentence.

Ever.

Depending on the player the game gets repetitive. MGSV for example can be extremely repetitive IF you as a player doesn't bother to experiment.

 

[Karak]

Always love your reviews man, loyal subriber here

Thanks NY. Appreciate it man.

Depending on the player the game gets repetitive. MGSV for example can be extremely repetitive IF you as a player doesn't bother to experiment.

Ya true as well as what difficulty. I am also noticing that many didn't use the alternate starts which offer some surprises I don't want to mention but allow you to go to places that you probably wouldn't even go to unless you used them. Also the opportunities and assassination types are through the roof. A bit spoilery to read but my god there are tons.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Hitman isn't repetitive...how about that sentence miles.

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I'll check out your review tonight.That was one of the few I was waiting on to be honest.

 

[The perfect Dark]

Woah, metro gives it an 8. they're usually pretty harsh

http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/10/hitman-intro-pack-review-honouring-the-contract-5744802/

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

Hitman isn't repetitive...how about that sentence miles.

Traditions of the Trade remains one of my favorite if not favorite Hitman missions. I loved the attention to detail and how we were able to access so many rooms. Is the Paris level comparable to Traditions of the Trade in that sense?

I hope DF comes with a analysis soon, I'd always like to know how significant the differences are. DF has yet to analyze Division, don't they?

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Depending on the player the game gets repetitive. MGSV for example can be extremely repetitive IF you as a player doesn't bother to experiment.

This is very true. Still, I'd like to believe those who are reviewing it early are Hitman vets and know that experimentation is a huge element of the gameplay.

 

[Karak]

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I'll check out your review tonight.That was one of the few I was waiting on to be honest.

You know I had to razz you lol

This is very true. Still, I'd like to believe those who are reviewing it early are Hitman vets and know that experimentation is a huge element of the gameplay.

Reviews probably hit all kinds of gamers. As I can tell just by watching and reading that some didn't see a vast number of things. Or they would have mentioned them

 

[Screaming Meat]

Depending on the player the game gets repetitive. MGSV for example can be extremely repetitive IF you as a player doesn't bother to experiment.

^This. So much this. You're given a huge array of tools and systems. You're limited by your imagination. If you only do Ghost runs, of course its going to be repetitive.

 

[DedValve]

Hm I like the idea of Hitman "seasons". I think if priced properly with sufficient content it can be amazing as Hitman has always been more about missions and it seems that they have the core gameplay downpack.

It could go a route of 1 hitman per generation with great gameplay improvements and new maps in order to keep the franchise fresh.

Damn I just checked the store and its out tomorrow. Oh well I'll read reviews and keep episode 1. I'll enjoy buying this piecemeal rather than a front up a full $60.

 

[Doctor Decimate]

This game is dead for me :-/

Yeah that kinda sounds like a dealbreaker with how much reloading I typically do in Hitman

 

[Karak]

^This. So much this. You're given a huge array of tools and systems. You're limited by your imagination. If you only do Ghost runs, of course its going to be repetitive.

Just the special targets alone will break up the pattern you might have set. They would have to because...well thats one reason they are there lol. So ya it depends on playstyle and just how much someone played.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

The stuff about bad A.I. sounds a little disappointing though. Those are the kind of things you'd expect to be improved.

 

[captainnapalm]

Hitman game gets repetitive?

I knew I shouldn't have got my hopes up for this. I know, I know..only one review, one opinion but repetitive and Hitman should never be uttered in the same sentence.

Ever.

Isn't the very concept of playing a Hitman level repetition, though. Sounds like the reviewer didn't quite get that. It's exploring the area, finding different ways to get things done, different assassination methods, coming across different NPCs, etc.

A good Hitman level should encourage repetition.

 

[Karak]

The stuff about bad A.I. sounds a little disappointing though. Those are the kind of things you'd expect to be improved.

Gonna be honest here. If agree but also feel that judging the AI in the new location and size requires some flexibility in expectations especially within the game design. If they were Mensa level with this many entities, it would probably be a bit unfun and it would also kill a CPU if a bunch of them were running larger/indepth AI packages.

Isn't the very concept of playing a Hitman level repetition, though. Sounds like the reviewer didn't quite get that. It's exploring the area, finding different ways to get things done, different assassination methods, coming across different NPCs, etc.

A good Hitman level should encourage repetition.

Correct. As I said in my review Hitman levels are somewhat like racing game tracks. You return to better your score, explore new situations, and improve your playstyle. But with the massive additions this game has...its broken that wide open.

 

[SomTervo]

Sounds like exactly what I'm after. Bravo, IO.

Yeah, this just flew back onto my radar at garrote-neck speed

Think I might wait for the full game release, though. Then again - the series is best when you replay levels a lot, so maybe getting them one at a time so you really sink into each one would work better?

Man!

 

[ashecitism]

IGN - 7.9

 

[MaKTaiL]

IGN - 7.9

IGN and their broken scores.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

Digital Foundry has their first performance analysis up.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-performance-analysis-hitman

Improved over the PS4 Beta and framerate cap now included (30fps) for people that hate the framerate jumping all over the place when left unlocked, it seems pretty stable when locked to 30fps too.

 

[Karak]

Digital Foundry has their first performance analysis up.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-performance-analysis-hitman

Does it also talk about the Division for most of it lol

 

[Saty]

So is any Challenge unavailable if you aren't connected to the servers?

 

[Ricky_R]

The beta/demo actually put me off a bit. Felt rather clunky and I expected more in that respect.

 

[Ludens]

What's the point on doing reviews now?
The game is episodic, so the review should be based on the whole game.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

Does it also talk about the Division for most of it lol

Thankfully they don't.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

I don't understand why you'd assign a score to this :/

Not unless you do it for each episode but let's face it that won't happen

 

[feint_ruled]

That opening sentence is borderline parody!

In the actual review, it's the last paragraph. Which in a way, is even more odd. "So in summation of our Hitman Review, Tom Clancy's The Division is excellent!"

Another weird thing is, they have a (IMHO stupid) policy of not scoring episodic games until the end - they didn't score any Telltale Game, or Life is Strange, for example, until the last episode realised. But here, they just score 'Recommended' it because, well, why not?
I like EG, but wonder what the hell they are at half the time. Really scattergun approach.

 

[prudislav]

So is any Challenge unavailable if you aren't connected to the servers?

From what i read its like this:

Saves are differentiated between online/offline , when internet falls down game kicks you to menu and you need to load offline save, you cant see stats or play escalation or contracts( not even your own custommade) while offline

 

[Karak]

What's the point on doing reviews now?
The game is episodic, so the review should be based on the whole game.

Because the titles is purchasable now as an episode and people want to know...if its worth buying that episode.

 

[GeeTeeCee]

Between what I played of the beta and the reviews here, I'm happy enough to drop £12 on the intro pack for now, and if Paris impresses me enough I'll decide whether or not to upgrade to the full experience later on.

 

[Chû Totoro]

The beta/demo actually put me off a bit. Felt rather clunky and I expected more in that respect.

Yeah me too and since my preorder for the "light" version got cancelled (no funds lol) I'm still waiting for more impressions. I'll replay the demo to be sure to really feel what the game has to offer but the word "clunky" is perfect to describe what I felt while playing :/

Performance seems to be average-bad on PS4 even in the final version so... but ACG's review makes me want to try harder to like it

 

[Luq]

So is any Challenge unavailable if you aren't connected to the servers?

You can only do story missions when offline. Contracts are not available without connection.

 

[Saty]

From what i read its like this:

Yeah, but Gamersyde say: http://gamersyde.com/news_what_we_think_of_hitman-17650_en.html

- Challenges are blocked if not connected to servers

Is it every kind of Challenge? Lets say you are playing offline and killing the target in X way is a challenge. You pull it off but it won't unlock the challenge? I guess if there are separate offline\online saves then the only way to have it registered you completed that challenge is by playing online. I also understand you need to complete the mission in the same run for the challenge you completed during it to be saved.

 

[LordBaztion]

I'm gonna wait for the complete release. I enjoyed Absolution a lot and this one seems solid. By the end its going to be excelent.

 

[FrontalMonk]

Yeah, but Gamersyde say: http://gamersyde.com/news_what_we_think_of_hitman-17650_en.html



Is it every kind of Challenge? Lets say you are playing offline and killing the target in X way is a challenge. You pull it off but it won't unlock the challenge? I guess if there are separate offline\online saves then the only way to have it registered you completed that challenge is by playing online. I also understand you need to complete the mission in the same run for the challenge you completed during it to be saved.

If it's how the beta worked, the challenges just didn't show up at all if you were playing offline. You could still play, but yeah, it's kind of a "nothing counts" sort of situation. I honestly expect that the servers will probably get the shit kicked out of them this weekend, then smooth out after that, just like literally every single other game with online functionality that's come out in recent memory. I'm hoping I'm wrong, because it's more of a niche game, but who knows.

 

[Fishook]

I quite like the idea of episodic content, the reviews seem pretty much as expected, with different targets and stuff per map, it should be enough between episodes.

I understand a lot of gamers like to binge on games within the first week of release, and it can be pretty annoying spiiting content, but its no worse than people moaning about lack of end game in MMO or such within two weeks (watch Division's players drop) and then new players struggle to find a group to play low to mid level content.

No everybody has x amount of hours to play, I am off on holiday in a weeks time and it will be enough content to keep be busy until then.

I have just bought the Into pack for know,

 

[Screaming Meat]

Yeah, this just flew back onto my radar at garrote-neck speed

Think I might wait for the full game release, though. Then again - the series is best when you replay levels a lot, so maybe getting them one at a time so you really sink into each one would work better?

Man!

Its a tough decision.

If Paris pans out well, then I'll probably take it as it comes monthly. I think this model really works for Hitman (for reasons you already covered).

 

[SolidusDave]

Nah, I'll wait for the full(er) release.
It's likely that there will be a price reduction until then and that the game will be patched and possibly further improved.
Basically a GOTY release with the difference that even release buyers won't have seen all the content yet.

 

[Got the Shakes]

Are the load times an issue on PS4 only, or PC as well? Also are there any reviews talking about PC performance vs PS4? Still torn on which version to get with PS4 have the additional content. Also normally I'd read all the reviews for myself, but I'm on mobile at the car dealer waiting for my car to be serviced.

 

[torpet]

Mine
Rated it a Buy for ACG (Formally Angrycentaurgaming) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26MTiR-6GTg

I would say its one of the more enjoyable levels of Hitman I have ever played and adding in the challenges and other addons I have logged more time with that one level than 4 or 5 in past titles. There is something to be said for almost sliding through a level from point to point and then finding an opportunity you never heard before and having to decide which way to go. Sadly A couple issues exist in the PS4 version when it comes to frame-rate that even locking it doesn't fix.

Great review, loved watching it. I think all in all I am happy that I pre-ordered the intro pack.

 

[prudislav]

Mine
Rated it a Buy for ACG (Formally Angrycentaurgaming) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26MTiR-6GTg

I would say its one of the more enjoyable levels of Hitman I have ever played and adding in the challenges and other addons I have logged more time with that one level than 4 or 5 in past titles. There is something to be said for almost sliding through a level from point to point and then finding an opportunity you never heard before and having to decide which way to go. Sadly A couple issues exist in the PS4 version when it comes to frame-rate that even locking it doesn't fix.

nice review... might get it one day , will see when FULL game is out... although the crippled offline seems to be pain in the ass (iirc in Absolution you could at least play your own custom made contracts)

 

[Saty]

If it's how the beta worked, the challenges just didn't show up at all if you were playing offline. You could still play, but yeah, it's kind of a "nothing counts" sort of situation. I honestly expect that the servers will probably get the shit kicked out of them this weekend, then smooth out after that, just like literally every single other game with online functionality that's come out in recent memory. I'm hoping I'm wrong, because it's more of a niche game, but who knows.

If they have an offline and online saves couldn't they just have the challenge unlock on your offline save? I'm not sure why you must play the game online to basically have it do a checkmark on something? All of it is available locally. It's like unlocking an achievement offline and it not registering when re-establish a connection.

 

[prudislav]

If they have an offline and online saves couldn't they just have the challenge unlock on your offline save? I'm not sure why you must play the game online to basically have it do a checkmark on something? All of it is available locally. It's like unlocking an achievement offline and it not registering when re-establish a connection.

datamining?

 

[Sub Zero]

Didn't someone from IO Interactive recently confirm that a Season 2 is coming next year? The episodic model will do wonders for this game if they are planning to offer multiple seasons

 

[dreamfall]

Can't wait to play this later tomorrow! It's always the best exploring many ways to get the job done. There's a slickness involved with the Hitman franchise that I love deeply!

 

[Visualante2]

So what are we looking at pricing wise?

£39.99 for everything
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£10.99 for tutorial and Paris in March
£10.99 for Italy in April
£10.99 for Morocco in May
£10.99 for Thailand in mid 2016
£10.99 for United States
£10.99 for Japan in late 2016
= £65.94

Hope the expansions are cheaper. Wonder if you'll be able to buy them and play them out of order if one of the episodes looks boring.

I appreciate they're keeping the last three episodes vague so they don't end up with inevitable delays. Even though Brad suggested 6 episodes over 6 months. I really don't understand why they're waiting until January for the disc release. I don't think they're confident they can get Japan done in good time which is weird.

 

[WhiskerFrisker]

Even though the beta was janky, I enjoyed trying different ways to approach my target. The only thing that truly bothered me was how the A.I reacted to things. If you killed the target, after awhile they pretty much shrug their shoulders and act like nothing happened. I was hoping for heightened security throughout.

 

[25_Cans_Of_Bacon]

I'm taking these scores with a large mountain of salt as I believe there's going to be a bit of a negative bias created from its episodic release model. Not to mention, what we are getting now is not fully indicative of the final product. I/O is looking for feedback and we may see many improvements come new levels. I loved the beta to death, so if it's like that I'm golden. The AI would be disappointing, but eh. Can't have everything.

Are these 1 minute load times just for PS4 or for PC as well?

 

[Black Mantis]

I'll definitely wait for the complete package to release first.

 

[torpet]

Even though the beta was janky, I enjoyed trying different ways to approach my target. The only thing that truly bothered me was how the A.I reacted to things. If you killed the target, after awhile they pretty much shrug their shoulders and act like nothing happened. I was hoping for heightened security throughout.

Yeah. Also the reaction of the soldiers when killing the target by manipulating the ejection seat.

 

[Fishook]

I think the episodes will be around $10 or around £7.50 each, or cheaper if there are available with third party web sites. If it takes off I can see it being a good thing. Rather than a full price game with a silly price Season pack with half the content being cosmetic filler.

Paid £8.25 for into pack on PC, as I am unsure for now how well is does, as I can decide whether I need to pick each episode when needed.

 

[Karak]

Yeah. Also the reaction of the soldiers when killing the target by manipulating the ejection seat.

Wait until you guys see some of the many ways you can take out people. I will say this. If you guys thought there were a good number in the prologue the Paris mission is going to blow your minds lol