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Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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Newtype-001
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Im hoping this is just the day for terrible rumours.
MassiveNights
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SCOOOOOPS
$1000 GPU added to run The Last of Us at 4K?
The claim that it would run current games in 4K is bullshit.
If this happens it will be to increase resolution/framerate of VR games, and increase framerate of existing games.
A GPU upgrade for a consumer-affordable game console is not going to make even 90% of existing games magically upgrade to 4K. That GPU would have to be extremely powerful.
Not to mention, you can't just change resolution output and keep playing. It has to actually be developed to support multiple resolutions. Any overlay/2D elements onscreen have to be dealt with so they aren't tiny and/or out of position, and the images themselves possibly updated if they appear pixelated at a higher resolution.
The claim that it would run current games in 4K is bullshit.
If this happens it will be to increase resolution/framerate of VR games, and increase framerate of existing games.
A GPU upgrade for a consumer-affordable game console is not going to make even 90% of existing games magically upgrade to 4K. That GPU would have to be extremely powerful.
Not to mention, you can't just change resolution output and keep playing. It has to actually be developed to support multiple resolutions. Any overlay/2D elements onscreen have to be dealt with so they aren't tiny and/or out of position, and the images themselves possibly updated if they appear pixelated at a higher resolution.
Obliterator
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They basically never are. This is almost TruthFact at this point
Chezzymann
Member
Look at how a lot of last gen game ports are handled. Lots of them are badly optimized. If this iteration stuff happens with consoles you probably won't be getting the super optimized games fully taking advantage of the hardware late in the gen like Hall 4 or God of war Ascension. Instead the priority for optimization will be for the latest PS4 hardware and stuff like the original will probably be an afterthought
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Umm... The console lifespan was incredibly feasible, the hardware was stable, the performancs unchangjng, and the box a means to an end. Even a smaller company like Nintendo could compete against a giant like Microsoft or Sony because you weren't constantly pumping an unsustainable (for them) amount into R&D. They were always developing, but their hardware they got out of that could last a good several years, instead of a constant need to pump out annual hardware products. Sony and Microsoft bought into the model too, and their boxes were rarely profitable. If we're entering a world of heavily marked up annual console models that's a change to the industry...and not a good one.
I don't get it, one of the best things about consoles is the fixed hardware imo.
celsowmbr
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Admiral Woofington
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If true and I need to buy an entirely separate fucking console you can go fuck yourself Sony I can handle a lot of shit but not this.
pasta_fire
Banned
I really hope this isn't the case. At the very least, I would want them to give the option to upgrade to anyone who already owns the console. The reason I don't play on PC is because I don't want to fucking deal with upgrading all the time.Come on.
entremet
Member
Man, talk about hyperbole lol.
Let it get confirmed at least. I think it will happen eventually. These longer console cycles are very risky. Basically, every generation, it's from square one again. That's really bad for the industry.
Semantics
Urgh, hope not.
It would definitely be a case of buying a new system and personally, I'm on in favour of this kind of system.
Consoles staying the same throughout the gen is one of their strengths (And weakness too in fairness), but if consoles are going to be doing this...they're just making the case for PC's much stronger. In fact I can see more people just switching to PCs if consoles carry along this path.
It would definitely be a case of buying a new system and personally, I'm on in favour of this kind of system.
Consoles staying the same throughout the gen is one of their strengths (And weakness too in fairness), but if consoles are going to be doing this...they're just making the case for PC's much stronger. In fact I can see more people just switching to PCs if consoles carry along this path.
NoLongerALurker
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Cool. I'm fine with dropping money on a more powerful console every couple of years.
Krisprolls
Banned
I buy one.
Oh please. This is a fucking awful idea, but this is not arrogant Sony back in the saddle.
MatrixMan.EXE
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DirtyLarry
Member
If this is true, just keep in mind developers using get a dev kit or an idea for the next console well in advance of the consoles actual release. So I think the earliest we would be seeing this would be Holiday 2017. The earliest.
So by then, components will have dropped in price and it will be much more realistic to release a new console that is capable of 4k in the $400 to $500 price range.
So by then, components will have dropped in price and it will be much more realistic to release a new console that is capable of 4k in the $400 to $500 price range.
Juxo
Member
Don't give them any more stupid ideas!
We don't know how much cheaper, though. If they're aiming for 4K, it won't be cheaper at all. If they can keep it at current price? Sure, whatever. But we don't even have the next generation of video cards in the PC space available at consumer-prices yet.
As for the all in one package... I mean, a PC is too. Plus I'd argue that they're arguably easier to set up for a consumer compared to current-gen consoles. You can buy a whole gaming PC for $1000 and not have to set anything up. Just plug it all in.
I dunno, it all comes down to price for me.
No. A 970/980 won't run a game super well at 4K.
Switch to PC for good.
And I wouldn't be too upset about it. Well, maybe a little, since I've been a console gamer since I was a wee lad, but it's just how the industry is now.
Xamtheking
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Guys, if the officially fake Kaz is joking about it, it's probably real
Mass Effect
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well then. Assuming this is true, I guess this is the end of normal generations.
god please no
god please no
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Honestly...I think MS and Sony both seem to have an idea of where they are going...I mean they might not need a new console for this....Look at this:
Its an external GPU that connects to a laptop providing extra power. When Phil Spencer first mentioned this...this is what I thought of rather than a completely new box.
The industry is about to get very interesting and change if either Sony or MS followup.
Its an external GPU that connects to a laptop providing extra power. When Phil Spencer first mentioned this...this is what I thought of rather than a completely new box.
The industry is about to get very interesting and change if either Sony or MS followup.
Papacheeks
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Because of their closed off nature. The OS, API's and all that jazz are designed specifcally to play,render games.
That's the main reason people buy a console over pc, or why people invest in PC. PC is open more choice in terms of what you can do with it. Your not just using it to play games.
Dee Dah Dave
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Yep. Microsoft were forced into it due to releasing such a bad console. A replacement from them was always going to come sooner rather than later.
Sony either stick with PS4 for a while longer or follow the same route. Otherwise they become the ones with the weaker, under powered console.
4K is BS too. They will support it for movies and maybe some indie games, but not AAA titles. They would require far too advanced hardware to fit in a console sized box for a 'cheap' price.
Chû Totoro
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No, Sony. Don't ! Even 4 years after the launch I don't want to buy a new system. Games started to really take advantage of the system only this year, and still it's not like there is already 50 must have games on the system...
I guess if both Xbox and Playstation systems are going this way I'll go for PC.
I guess if both Xbox and Playstation systems are going this way I'll go for PC.
PS4.5 to be bundled with Knack 2
Surely this will sell millions
Surely this will sell millions
Dang lol
Sorry, just felt like a opportune time to be pedantic.
But I dunno, it could work, or it could be a catastrophe, I mainly play on PC so I guess I'm not sweating the idea that badly myself.
Why would a person in the console market pay $600 when they could get a $300 model tho
Bartholomuse
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I don't know why I find this so funny. I'm personally hoping for a GTAV remaster on 4.5, or perhaps...maybe they could release Resident Evil 4 on it? That would sell surely?
CassidyIzABeast
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Sony Too