TheGreatMightyPoo
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That's what I thought.
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NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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Movalpolos
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They won't aim for high spec. They will aim for low cost.
Is not a contradiction at what I said.
Well I meant it more in that Polaris may actually be credible, but I don't think Zen is...
IsntChrisL
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I'm kind of shocked that they are not even going to show the thing at E3. This sounds like a terrible way to keep Nintendo on consumer minds this year.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Nope.
Possible Reasons for the NX Delay:
- Nintendo planned to release in 2016 all along, but after the announcements of the PS4K and Xbox 1.5, they feared releasing a console that would quickly become the least powerful and prefer to take a wait and see approach until Sony/Microsoft announce their official specs.
- NX didn't have enough games ready for launch and did not want to make the same mistake as the Wii U.
- By releasing in March, it will enable Nintendo to sell the console cheaper with higher specs on it.
- Handheld was taking longer to complete and want to release both at the same time (If it is a Hybrid console).
- Still making deals for more 3rd party support
- Nintendo feels they can finish strong by lowering the Wii U's price to something like $175-$199 this year and for the holiday season and sell out of their remaining Wii U Stock.
- Release of PSVR, Oculus and Hive along with PS4K and XONE.5 would take away from the NX's hype and by releasing in March, they have that date all for themselves.
- Nintendo planned to release in 2016 all along, but after the announcements of the PS4K and Xbox 1.5, they feared releasing a console that would quickly become the least powerful and prefer to take a wait and see approach until Sony/Microsoft announce their official specs.
- NX didn't have enough games ready for launch and did not want to make the same mistake as the Wii U.
- By releasing in March, it will enable Nintendo to sell the console cheaper with higher specs on it.
- Handheld was taking longer to complete and want to release both at the same time (If it is a Hybrid console).
- Still making deals for more 3rd party support
- Nintendo feels they can finish strong by lowering the Wii U's price to something like $175-$199 this year and for the holiday season and sell out of their remaining Wii U Stock.
- Release of PSVR, Oculus and Hive along with PS4K and XONE.5 would take away from the NX's hype and by releasing in March, they have that date all for themselves.
Schnozberry
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Polaris + ARM makes the most sense.
I belive the rumours are that the PS4k will release in March also.
bryanee
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It will though. They would be stupid to miss the NX launch.
So what's wrong with option to upgrade your console ? They can do a basic model "low cost" and if you want, you buy the extra SCD or whatever this could be for better performance. Or maybe later in the console lifespan to expand it.
Schnozberry
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Yeah, my mistake. I was confusing the two dates.
mckmas8808
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Then why ever make commercials for a video game?
But didn't Emily Rogers shoot down the idea?
What A Time To Be Alive
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These are those "we moving out the console industry" moves.
Which is why i said "closer to the ps4k". Because i dont expect them to surpass or match it. But the extra time may put certain hardware or features within their reach at a lesser cost even. Who knows
TheGreatMightyPoo
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It still could very well be a launch NX game.
I think she didn't denied specifically 10k rumor about polaris. She basically said that we were expecting too much about the specs (PS4K specs).
Edit : I meant PS4K specs yes
This is my line of thinking as well.
No? And I doubt most developers know the specifics of the GPU other than performance targets and Dx12 compliant GCN.
RPGCrazied
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So what is the big holiday game this year? For Wii U that is.
1. Wait, the first Neo rumours said that Sony was planing to launch Neo in Q1 2017. This cat and mouse game won't help Nintendo. This will be Uncharted vs. Tomb Raider all over again.
If Sony wants to crush Nintendo they will release Neo alongside NX. Sony should not be afraid of doing so, as they've released PS when XboxOne launched and came out on top of the game.
2. Wat? Is March magic month or something? What kind of technological advancement or major price reduction do you expect in a 5 month time frame? There has to be a more plausible reason to skip holidays 2016.
I'm assuming that you meant PS4K, so I edited your post accordingly for the quote.
Either way, PS4K specs should be a bit cheaper by 2017, so having the NX Console be within that ballpark shouldn't be impossible at a decent price by March 2017. Then again, the NX Console supposedly has a better CPU than the PS4/PS4K (with the PS4K supposedly just having an overlocked version of the PS4's CPU).
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Retro's Diddy Kong Racing.
Annotated with my thoughts (removed your speculation one about handheld etc)
morthbound
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I hoped for 2016 but I always knew it was going to be 2017.
What's disappointing is that the NX is a no show at E3. We were SO FREAKING close!
News will come sooner or later but this news makes me feel so deflated.
What's disappointing is that the NX is a no show at E3. We were SO FREAKING close!
News will come sooner or later but this news makes me feel so deflated.
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Then it'll be downgraded. If there's one thing that last night taught me, it's that Nintendo will go out of their way to ensure that everyone is disappointed no matter how low their expectations are. If I start expecting an overclocked Wii U, they'll somehow put out a Wii-level machine.
BengaBenga
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There seem to be a lot of issues at Nintendo internally. Not being able to meet the hardware and/or software deadlines in order to launch in the most profitable part of the year - especially without any key title to bring in the all important Christmas revenue - is really worrying. It basically means Nintendo will have a shockingly bad Financial Year.
But for me more importantly, it points towards an organization that more than five years after the Wii started dying doesn't seem to have its act together. With such strong competition from so many different parties (Sony, MS, Steam/PC, phones) this could be bad news for NX and for Nintendo.
But for me more importantly, it points towards an organization that more than five years after the Wii started dying doesn't seem to have its act together. With such strong competition from so many different parties (Sony, MS, Steam/PC, phones) this could be bad news for NX and for Nintendo.
Hm, kinda OT (or not)
So back to this thread : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1188554
The 2016 marketing budget.
First of all, Zelda was listed at 10m of the wii u 34m. But I guess that wasn't set in stone and is now changed?
But more notably, is the N-Stars game:
To me, this seems like an amiibo centric game, for all systems, and a big holiday launch game. However, if NX is delayed to 2017, I wonder what the means for this game. Will it still come out in 2016 on just Wii U and 3DS? Will it be revealed at e3 2016 anymore?
I thought it was this ^^ n-stars thing.
So back to this thread : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1188554
The 2016 marketing budget.
First of all, Zelda was listed at 10m of the wii u 34m. But I guess that wasn't set in stone and is now changed?
But more notably, is the N-Stars game:
To me, this seems like an amiibo centric game, for all systems, and a big holiday launch game. However, if NX is delayed to 2017, I wonder what the means for this game. Will it still come out in 2016 on just Wii U and 3DS? Will it be revealed at e3 2016 anymore?
I thought it was this ^^ n-stars thing.
RPGCrazied
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I know the Wii U is dead, and they are ending production. But to miss a holiday season is madness. Don't think the 3DS will be enough.
That's more like it.
Resident Evil 4 was only exclusive for a little while, Turok also came out on PC...
That's what I've been doing for a while even with all the supposed rumours and "leaks".
I'm sorry, was this supposed to be related to what we were discussing?
Actually, #2 is correct. We're so early on the 14nmFF life cycle that every month counts as far as yields and cost go, which is likely a big reason for why PS4k is most likely also aimed for March.
It's Nintendo though. Half as powerful as XBone is extremely optimistic.
Duh. This will be the worst launch of any console in terms of third-party support, ever. Wii U irreparably and permanently ruined it for Nintendo. They most likely do have a more strict NDA than the others, but that has almost nothing to do with the lack of leaks.
I doubt NOA Twitter would be specifically using the "next generation of Nintendo" phrasing to hype NX if it were weaker than the XB1.
UnemployedVillain
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This joke is really played out
How would that be weird? It would still be the next generation of Nintendo so i'm not sure what you're implying here.
DeathSparks
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I made this
DragoonKain
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Well... it'll help my wallet, but I really want Zelda ahhh!
Really interested in seeing just how powerful a console they are making the NX.
Really interested in seeing just how powerful a console they are making the NX.
I hated the joke too, but yet again Nintendo managed to do worse than the lowest possible expectations. It's a recurring theme, so now I'm taking the worst possible expectation and assuming that it'll be even worse than that. So, handheld on-par with Wii U and console just powerful enough to play handheld games at 1080p. I'm ready to be disappointed from now on.
Also, Wii U gets to have droughts for more than 50% of its life, and now I know that if NX isn't a hit Nintendo will just leave fans high and dry and won't release anything for 2-3 years. How can I trust a company like that?
Yes, absolutely. I'm going to adress Nintendo defense force here: pls, hold your tits and get real! I'm not a fanboy, I own a WiiU.
No marketing budget/incentive is going to recover what Nintendo has lost in the last 20 years: PS1, PS2, PS3 did the marketing for PS4 if you really think about it.
Nintendo is living on a fanbase that is only decreasing with time. The Nintendo man-childs drooling in nostalgia will go the way of WWII eye witnesses. There will come a time when there's no one around anymore to tell stories about Nintendo magic.
The Wii was the Rubik cube of the 2000s. Nothing more, nothing less: A trend.
And now Nintendo is sacrificing one year of mindshare. Does anyone remember the last years of the Wii. Basically they stopped supporting Wii in 2010 - a successful console - and yet they had no library at WiiU's launch.
Missing holiday 2016 is one thing. Dropping WiiU support is also understandable BUT behaving like a bullied school kid who hides in the shadows is just plain stupid. Nintendo needs a pair of magnificent balls or they're done. End of story.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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Everyone I know IRL who grew up loving Nintendo has moved on to smartphones, PC, PS4 and Xbone. They remember Smash Bros 64 and Melee fondly but they've moved on. If Nintendo doesn't act sooner they are going to lose all their potential mindshare and marketshare in gaming. Their fans have aged and they haven't done a thing to compete to keep them or to reel in the new generation of children glued to tablets and smartphones. And now they're letting MS and Sony get ahead AGAIN with new console refreshes, maybe even before they get to release NX.
Insanity.
JetSetRadio
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No.
Yes. And, if the XBone - 2nd Gen rumors are true, we're out of AMD projects for x86 aren't we?
Potentially for the very same reason.
This is whybi disagree with people who say that the Wii U is the upper bound for their core audience. There are a lot of "lapsed" fans who have moved on because they stopped appealing to them. They need to focus on getting them back.
May I ask how old you are?
Yes, I agree with you. I really wonder what my 6 year old niece is going to remember about her gaming youth in 10 years. Is she going to remember Mario Kart on her 2DS or the runner game she's constantly playing on her kiddie-tablet now? I really don't give a rat's ass about the Ninty denial force anymore, because the kids right now are going to write the next chapter in gaming history and none of us is able to connect with the youths just like every generation before wasn't able to do. Problem is: the writing is on the wall. The trend is obvious. The day my nephew (now 9) is introduced to more "mature" games will be the day Nintendo becomes just a thing from his past.
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