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Is there ever a good reason to beat somebody up?

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Tax evasion, embezzlement, theft, fraud, defamation, financial/emotional harm upon family.

Tax evasion a good reason to beat someone up? I somewhat agree with the others, but tax evasion?
Anyway, I read today, that during the Clinton years, Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton a dog in one of his radio rants. I would want to inflict violence on that man if that was my kid.
 

ThisGuy

Member
Yes. I've noticed middle class white America believes it's okay to literally shit on a person verbally and that if someone retalliates physically they act as if that person's behavior is out of line.

Seriously, keep your mouth shut, won't be nothing.
 
Eh rarely.


There are some places where urban violence is rampant, so they set it you can fight, boxing ring, referee, and all to sort out violence.

The idea has merit. Unlike courts, the results are immediate, and generally people are satisfied. If you aren't, you can always just get in the ring again.
 

jaekeem

Member
Violence is usually an unproductive way of solving problems, but people say plenty of things for which they deserve to get hit.
 

JordanN

Banned
Sounds like something a corrupt cop would say.

"Hey, can we beat this guy up even though he's harmless?"
 

ApharmdX

Banned
No, there's never a good reason to initiate violence. For self-defense, including defending someone else, I can accept that. But beating someone up? Christ no. I'm a pacifist. I do like combat sports though, which is consensual.
 

Tubobutts

Member
Yes. I've noticed middle class white America believes it's okay to literally shit on a person verbally and that if someone retalliates physically they act as if that person's behavior is out of line.

Seriously, keep your mouth shut, won't be nothing.
Yep. It's apparently fine to call me a subhuman and to imply that me, my family, my ancestors, any kids I might have etc should have been killed, but I hit you and now I'm out of line.
 

Soapbox Killer

Grand Nagus
I don't believe so. People should protect themselves, but if you are in a dominant enough position to "beat somebody up" then I believe you are abusing your power over someone else.

Often times you can't determine "dominance" over someone until the physical confrontation happens. I'll probably get some slack for this but if I'm honest, some people just need their ass whipped. I have many examples and many of them are in dangerous situations but the one that sticks out are men that slap women around. I have and will intervene if I have the ability to make a difference. Not if my wife or kids are around but sometimes you just can't be a bystander.
 
Severe sustained mental abuse would be an exception where I may hit first to make something/someone go away. Just being honest, I'm human and words can really hurt me or others and I react. I'm a fight not flight guy.

I have "movie face slapped" someone out of being out of control twice in my life, two different people. Do those count?

Also when I was a teenager I stopped a huge carpark melee of about 6 a side by decking the leader first, he had a bottle in his hand and they were looking to fight anyone that had been where we were that night. Wrong time, wrong place and I stand by getting everyone out of that situation. It could have gone any which way and worsened the situation but I wasn't going to let that bottle put one of us in the hospital just because they wanted to fight on the weekend with any group around.
 

Parch

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Yes. I've noticed middle class white America believes it's okay to literally shit on a person verbally and that if someone retalliates physically they act as if that person's behavior is out of line.

Seriously, keep your mouth shut, won't be nothing.
And some jerks continue to do it because they know they can get away with it. Being a jackass is a game to them.
Sometimes a punch in the mouth is the only thing some people respond to.
 

Kenstar

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Yep. It's apparently fine to call me a subhuman and to imply that me, my family, my ancestors, any kids I might have etc should have been killed, but I hit you and now I'm out of line.

I mean where do you draw the line if you start hitting people over hostile words? Unless they're directly threatening violence and have the means to follow through with it I wouldn't hit anyone.

This is coming from someone called a nigger to his face last friday btw. Many people would've punched the guy over that. Then where do we draw the line? 'Nigga'? Severely racist but technically slur free insult? ('You people were better off a couple hundred years ago')? I'm aware of Fighting Words but have little faith the law will apply that to me and not put my ass in jail on assault charges after his friends say he didn't do anything. All it takes is one guy on a cameraphone just far enough away to get footage of you swinging out of nowhere but not close enough to hear what the inciter was saying.
 

Soapbox Killer

Grand Nagus
I mean where do you draw the line if you start hitting people over hostile words? Unless they're directly threatening violence and have the means to follow through with it I wouldn't hit anyone.

This is coming from someone called a nigger to his face last friday btw. Many people would've punched the guy over that. Then where do we draw the line? 'Nigga'? Severely racist but technically slur free insult? ('You people were better off a couple hundred years ago')? I'm aware of Fighting Words but have little faith the law will apply that to me and not put my ass in jail on assault charges after his friends say he didn't do anything. All it takes is one guy on a cameraphone just far enough away to get footage of you swinging out of nowhere but not close enough to hear what the inciter was saying.

True. There are times where getting physical poses a threat to your freedom. There are also times when the threat of consequence don't outweigh having to defend the honor of someone or something worth fighting for.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
If I don't have to defend myself or others, then no. Violence without necessity is always a failure of intellect, character, wit, and humor.
 

wiggleb0t

Banned
Guys who beat their wife, partner or kid need to be kneecapped. Police struggle to deal with domestic violence and it's such a burden on society.
 
No. Never.

I completely understand the motivation behind it. It feels good to punish people who wronged or hurt you.

But violence solves nothing. Hurting someone else, causing more pain solves nothing. It is objectively wrong unless it's in the interest of self defense.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Of course.

Let's say your dumbass kept picking on someone at school. Finally that kid snaps and beats the snot out of you. You earned it. Take it as a life lesson and walk.

Now if he took a chair to your head, No you didn't earn that.
 

Baraka in the White House

2-Terms of Kombat
Of course.

Let's say your dumbass kept picking on someone at school. Finally that kid snaps and beats the snot out of you. You earned it. Take it as a life lesson and walk.

Now if he took a chair to your head, No you didn't earn that.

Agreed. It's why I hate zero tolerance policies in school. It's pretty much empowering bullies who don't give a shit.
 

weshes195

Member
Aw, I was gonna go all on in that misleading title lol

Hm, yes I believe so. I understand about being a better person and human being, however as someone who was bullied trust me sometimes being physical is the only way a person can understand.

Always roll my eyes when people cry about no violence. Man, how about you live 4 years being constantly bullied 5 days a week. Meanwhile, after beating the crap out of someone I got to live a happy high school life :)
 
I'm seeing a lot of clearly legitimate reasons to clean someone's clock, how about something more ambiguous?

If someone spat in your face, would you throw a punch? It's harmless technically, but damn that calls for an ass-whooping.
 

weshes195

Member
I'm seeing a lot of clearly legitimate reasons to clean someone's clock, how about something more ambiguous?

If someone spat in your face, would you throw a punch? It's harmless technically, but damn that calls for an ass-whooping.

Oh yeah, no question about that. However, I don't believe I would personally do it as I've lived with far worse than that.
 

Rival

Gold Member
My 11 year old self thought it was ok to beat someone up because they didn't like the Oakland A's.
 

AlexBasch

Member
My dad punched the fuck out of some dude that was married to my aunt a long time ago and was abusive to her.

I'm was surprised that guy didn't go to the Police, but then he would have faced some shit because my aunt did the whole "wearing long sleeves and shades" to hide the bruises.
 
Only if the situation calls for it, which is any situation where all alternative methods will lead to more harm done to some individual.

My 11 year old self thought it was ok to beat someone up because they didn't like the Oakland A's.

And your 11 year old self was 100% correct.

I'm seeing a lot of clearly legitimate reasons to clean someone's clock, how about something more ambiguous?

If someone spat in your face, would you throw a punch? It's harmless technically, but damn that calls for an ass-whooping.

Nah, I'd just yell at them.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
I'm seeing a lot of clearly legitimate reasons to clean someone's clock, how about something more ambiguous?

If someone spat in your face, would you throw a punch? It's harmless technically, but damn that calls for an ass-whooping.


I don't think its a hard principle to understand at times, since it involves taking responsibility for your actions.

You call a girl a skank at the club because she wasn't feeling you. She proceeds to dump her drink on you? Its something that you earned. Should she have done it? Probably not. But you were being an ass. Its within that range of reasonable responses, bit on the higher end.

Spit on a guy and he decided to deck you. Again, it is something where that outcome is a likely possibility and you shouldn't be spitting on him. He shouldn't hit you, but I'm not going to say you didn't deserve a smack either.


Its typically when the punishment does not match the action. You call that girl a skank and she smashes a bottle on your head. No, that's too much. Guy you spit on beats you half to death, again, no that's uncalled for. It's like if you push someone then they push harder back. Not take out a bat and wail on you.
 
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