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[Insumatposa]

Excellent skin/hair shader.

Not only that but the game has the best use of volumetric clouds in any game and its tech was detailed in last year's SIGGRAPH, all that in open world settings.

 

[GHG]

Just watched the trailer...

I can't wait for this.

 

[wapplew]

I know it's wrong...can I play as kid Aloy for the whole game?

 

[Shin-Ra]

Excellent skin/hair shader.

Little-Aloy's hand looks too waxy, at first I thought it was wet and out of focus but the wrist band's in focus. The face is fantastic.

The old lady in shadow's skin looks super convincing.

(3x slowmo)

 

[Lemondish]

The Witcher 3 had some awful trailers from that standpoint, so I'm hoping this is a similar case. Like I mentioned before, people are taking issue with this because of Guerrilla's track record. CDPR gets the benefit of the doubt because they've proven themselves.

I still don't understand how they've proven themselves. For one, PlayStation gamers know them for only one game - Witcher 3. Two, it has some seriously lackluster combat with some of the wonkiest controls ever. Third, it was plagued with terrible slowdown in several main areas that required a year's worth of patches to fix. If there was ever a developer that did not deserve the rap they get around here it would be CDPR.

GG on the other hand have a long track record with PlayStation fans. They've seen how their work with Killzone was marked by a shaky start, then major success, and finally growth and risks taken. Look to this game with a cautious optimism. I would never suggest the same for CDPR's Cyberpunk project. Not in any serious way.

 

[BigTnaples]

I still don't understand how they've proven themselves. For one, PlayStation gamers know them for only one game - Witcher 3. Two, it has some seriously lackluster combat with some of the wonkiest controls ever. Third, it was plagued with terrible slowdown in several main areas that required a year's worth of patches to fix. If there was ever a developer that did not deserve the rap they get around here it would be CDPR.

Well, them proving themselves as devs does not have to be only on Playstation. Also the game has excellent combat.

Yeah it had some slowdown, but that was patched, and it is one of the most technically impressive games ever released.

They also have a BEYOND excellent trackrecord with post game support.

 

[NullPointer]

I will HAVE to have a NEO to enjoy this game to its fullest.

I know, right?

Can't wait to spend another $400 to play this game as advertised.

So awesome.

 

[GeoramA]

Watched it 5 times already, lol. Really interested in the story now.

Early 2017 is looking so STACKED right now, but everything is getting set aside when this comes out.

 

[Ran rp]

Little-Aloy's hand looks too waxy, at first I thought it was wet and out of focus but the wrist band's in focus. The face is fantastic.

it looks like motion blur.

 

[Skux]

You can tell this guy just fucking hates that the PS4 has some awesome games.

Hates it in his core.

On topic: Why the hell are they still calling this Zero Dawn? Please Guerilla, axe this stupid ass subtitle or whatever its called.

It is terrible. Just call it Horizon.

It needed a better title in the first place. "Horizon" is generic as hell and provides no information about the game. Even Halo had a meaning in its title.

 

[Shin-Ra]

it looks like motion blur.

I framed through where she's fiddling with the earpiece and even with little movement it's very waxy and lacking in detail.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

To all the people dissing the story based on this trailer, name the upcoming games with better story trailers that have you more hyped. Genuinely curious as from games with released media this is one of my most anticipated.

Kind of hard when most trailers haven't been released yet. But if you want to play that game, P5.

 

[trikster40]

Dig the box art, bright and colorful. I'm hyped for this one!

 

[Insumatposa]

Little-Aloy's hand looks too waxy, at first I thought it was wet and out of focus but the wrist band's in focus. The face is fantastic.

it looks like motion blur.

Indeed, in the last pic both the hand and the wrist band are looking blurry because they move and motion blur caused that.

 

[Lemondish]

Well, them proving themselves as devs does not have to be only on Playstation. Also the game has excellent combat.

Yeah it had some slowdown, but that was patched, and it is one of the most technically impressive games ever released.

They also have a BEYOND excellent trackrecord with post game support.

Release a complete game at the beginning and you don't have to provide that much post game support.

Second, the fact that they had to patch in alternate control schemes BECAUSE combat was slow and unresponsive suggests the opposite of excellence. The severe lack of any real difficulty and the amount of cheese builds the game has shows how badly this game is balanced.

There are redeeming qualities, like great story telling and like you said one of the most technically impressive games yet, but that all came with a serious downside: boring gameplay. The trailers were especially cognizant of this fact, preferring to show as little of it as possible.

Horizon actually looks quite fun to play based on what we've seen.

 

[kyser73]

It looks great,but everyone I see footage of it, I'm reminded aboiut how stupid the concept of this game actually is. High-tech tribe and mecha-dinos? Someone must have found his junior grade drawing book in a closet. Actually thinking about it this way makes it somewhat interesting, but the tone is so serious instead....

Every time I see a post like this I'm reminded of the astonishing limitations some people put on their imaginations.

 

[the-pi-guy]

It needed a better title in the first place. "Horizon" is generic as hell and provides no information about the game. Even Halo had a meaning in its title.

How do you know that Horizon provides no information about the game?

 

[GribbleGrunger]

It looks great,but everyone I see footage of it, I'm reminded aboiut how stupid the concept of this game actually is. High-tech tribe and mecha-dinos? Someone must have found his junior grade drawing book in a closet. Actually thinking about it this way makes it somewhat interesting, but the tone is so serious instead....

The premise is good. It's just that you lack the imagination to see the potential.

 

[Galactic Barret]

It needed a better title in the first place. "Horizon" is generic as hell and provides no information about the game. Even Halo had a meaning in its title.

Maybe the title and subtitle will become apparent as the story unfolds? Zero Dawn HAS to mean something. Its just too convenient.

To all the people dissing the story based on this trailer, name the upcoming games with better story trailers that have you more hyped. Genuinely curious as from games with released media this is one of my most anticipated.

I have no problem with the story; there is no such thing as a 'new' story and using tropes as an excuse to put down a game is weak. Everything is a trope, its just how the story is presented, which is the only thing about H:ZD I'm not feeling at the moment. You talking about being an

Spoiler

outcast

with zero emotion, to the point where it sounds like a drone. Tighten up the VA (I thought the last trailers VA was excellent, A+) and it'll be great.

 

[Ran rp]

All this talk of robots and generic titles just reminded me that Detroit: Become Human is a thing.

 

[cheezcake]

Every time I see a post like this I'm reminded of the astonishing limitations some people put on their imaginations.

The premise is good. It's just that you lack the imagination to see the potential.

Holy shit lol

Guys, mecha-dinos are up their with the most commonly used internet fandom clichés along with pirates, ninjas and zombies, they're not an original or imaginative concept in any way. Now the execution could still be damn good, it's not like any game involving those elements automatically has a bad narrative, but this trailer doesn't at all lead me to think that the story isn't just going to be as reflectively cliche as the concept. Now please stop with the imagination bs, it's obviously just you guys trying to feel more secure in your liking of a product by being condescending to people with any sort of critique toward it.

 

[BigTnaples]

Release a complete game at the beginning and you don't have to provide that much post game support.

What? They have always launched complete games, and by post game support I wasn't talking about just bug patches but free updates and improvements to gameplay, graphics, content, etc. the Enhanced editions of 1 and 2 were amazing updates to the base titles, and Wild Hunt has received not only a ton of free DLC but ghe most bang for your buck paid DLC we have seen in years. Not to mention the awesome stuff they throw in with the game, like a map, soundtrack, Manuel, game world guide, thank you letter, etc into the standard edition game.

Second, the fact that they had to patch in alternate control schemes BECAUSE combat was slow and unresponsive suggests the opposite of excellence. The severe lack of any real difficulty and the amount of cheese builds the game has shows how badly this game is balanced.

It's an alternate option based on preference. They didn't patch it out completely, they added an option for people who prefer it bay way, some people still prefer to play with that option disabled.



There are redeeming qualities, like great story telling and like you said one of the most technically impressive games yet, but that all came with a serious downside: boring gameplay. The trailers were especially cognizant of this fact, preferring to show as little of it as possible.

There were HOURS of gameplay shown by CDPR before launch. Literally, hours.



Horizon actually looks quite fun to play based on what we've seen.

Yes it does look quite fun, and GG is an amazing developer. Shadowfall is an underatted title, as is Killzone 2, and Mercenary. As fun as Wild Hunt? We shall see.

I mean, I get it, you think Wild Hunt is overrated. But understand that you are in the minority, and most people consider it a fantastic game. Hell, I would say it's one of the best games ever to be made up to this point.

 

[NHarmonic.]

Holy shit lol

Guys, mecha-dinos are up their with the most commonly used internet fandom clichés along with pirates, ninjas and zombies, they're not an original or imaginative concept in any way. Now the execution could still be damn good, it's not like any game involving those elements automatically has a bad narrative, but this trailer doesn't at all lead me to think that the story isn't just going to be as reflectively cliche as the concept. Now please stop with the imagination bs, it's obviously just you guys trying to feel more secure in your liking of a product by being condescending to people with any sort of critique toward it.

What kind of criticism was that, though. If we actually limit videogame concepts to things that made sense, we wouldn't have half the games we love. A fox in space? A plumber jumping and eating mushrooms to grow up? Echo-location using fungi-man? (Tlou). Please...

 

[silva1991]

I know, right?

Can't wait to spend another $400 to play this game as advertised.

So awesome.

I will buy the game regardless, but I'm only buying a new console if it reviewed well.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Holy shit lol

Guys, mecha-dinos are up their with the most commonly used internet fandom clichés along with pirates, ninjas and zombies, they're not an original or imaginative concept in any way. Now the execution could still be damn good, it's not like any game involving those elements automatically has a bad narrative, but this trailer doesn't at all lead me to think that the story isn't just going to be as reflectively cliche as the concept. Now please stop with the imagination bs, it's obviously just you guys trying to feel more secure in your liking of a product by being condescending to people with any sort of critique toward it.

That trailer can't possibly tell you want you want to know and frankly the devs won't want it to. The mystery is part of the fascination but for some people, for some reason, it's a concern. That's the whole point of this trailer and ANY trailer. I'm quite happy to agree with some of the dialogue concerns because we've actually got some of that dialogue here, but everything else is simply a wait and see situation.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Will all due of respect to the devs, but it's hard to believe they squeezed that out of a vanilla PS4...

 

[kinoki]

This might be the coolest game ever. Hope it can live up to the hype.

 

[reKon]

That's quite the YouTube account you've got there.

So embarrassing. I don't understand how people operate like this, lol. You can tell that shit really gets to him..

 

[specdot]

This looks like a banned gif.

I'm assuming Alloy is ZERATUL PL and the dude holding em on the cliff is a mod? =p
Game looks great. Haven't played a GG game since Killzone 2. Played the multiplayer for Shadow Fall, but I've always been interested in GG's games, just never went out of my way to try em. I will definitely be keeping an eye out for this title though.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Will all due of respect to the devs, but it's hard to believe they squeezed that out of a vanilla PS4...

In every generation that ever was, games get better and better.

 

[reKon]

game looks like it's going to be fun, but I pray the writing holds up, lol

 

[Wishmaster92]

Will all due of respect to the devs, but it's hard to believe they squeezed that out of a vanilla PS4...

Funny thing is some of those mech dinosaurs are +100k polygons each....wtf

 

[jamsy]

Am I the only one that wishes that they were organic dino-beasts and not robots?

Otherwise game looks very pretty. Shame about all the "outcast" stuff, but I'm hoping the story won't be too terible.

 

[SunBroDave]

Will all due of respect to the devs, but it's hard to believe they squeezed that out of a vanilla PS4...

After Uncharted 4, anything's possible.

Spoiler

downgrade incoming

 

[kyser73]

Holy shit lol

Guys, mecha-dinos are up their with the most commonly used internet fandom clichés along with pirates, ninjas and zombies, they're not an original or imaginative concept in any way. Now the execution could still be damn good, it's not like any game involving those elements automatically has a bad narrative, but this trailer doesn't at all lead me to think that the story isn't just going to be as reflectively cliche as the concept. Now please stop with the imagination bs, it's obviously just you guys trying to feel more secure in your liking of a product by being condescending to people with any sort of critique toward it.

Did you read the post I was replying to?

It basically said that mixing high & low tech elements together was a dumb idea that doesn't work.

I think that displays a lack of imagination. It implies that there are rules as to what you can and can't bring to the party in SF storytelling (hint: there aren't).

 

[UltimaPooh]

I like the I/O tattoo on the baddy at the end there.

Though... it's reversed it looks like... maybe signifying that mans power has ended.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Am I the only one that wishes that they were organic dino-beasts and not robots?

Otherwise game looks very pretty. Shame about all the "outcast" stuff, but I'm hoping the story won't be too terible.

But that would be a completely different game and a completely different story.

 

[Wagram]

So is the Limited Edition not coming to NA?

 

[~Kinggi~]

Story seems slightly less interesting with this latest trailer. You know, more 'mainstream bullshit' being applied it seems. But everything else seems as impressive as ever. Hopefully the game can pull through.

 

[brickarts295]

Will all due of respect to the devs, but it's hard to believe they squeezed that out of a vanilla PS4...

After The Order, Uncharted 4, MGSV and Witcher 3. I'm ready to believe.. Obviously not the best examples but hey look at GTA IV and compare it to GTA V on PS3, its literally a gen leap on the same console.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Story seems slightly less interesting with this latest trailer. You know, more 'mainstream bullshit' being applied it seems. But everything else seems as impressive as ever. Hopefully the game can pull through.

A trip to the seaside sounds like a really boring and generic story but what happens on the journey there and how it impacts the characters is what makes or breaks a story. We don't don't know that journey and so we can't judge the story yet.

 

[Insumatposa]

Will all due of respect to the devs, but it's hard to believe they squeezed that out of a vanilla PS4...

Funny thing is some of those mech dinosaurs are +100k polygons each....wtf

Delsin in ISS was around 120k polygons in an open wolrd game with thousands of effects and particles with framerates around 30-45. I don't see why this isn't possible now with the new unlocked CPU and surely more unlocked memory and improved SDK and techs.
Keep in mind that one of the most impressive features of the game is its realistic cloud tech where the game has every type of clouds in different sky distances which cumulate according to weather and only the dense ones in low temperatues can cause rain and heavier rain to drop. The weather and day/night system of this game will be very immersive and can affect gameplay.

 

[~Kinggi~]

A trip to the seaside sounds like a really boring and generic story but what happens on the journey there and how it impacts the characters is what makes or breaks a story. We don't don't know that journey and so we can't judge the story yet.

I mean, i can judge the trailer, yes i can indeed judge that, which is what im referring to.

 

[Metroidvania]

NEO dev time, at least partially, I'm guessing.

Ugh, still not looking forward to that 'upgrade' at some point.

Cheers to February, though. Curious to see what'll fill the gaps.

 

[potatohead]

Holy shit lol

Guys, mecha-dinos are up their with the most commonly used internet fandom clichés along with pirates, ninjas and zombies, they're not an original or imaginative concept in any way. Now the execution could still be damn good, it's not like any game involving those elements automatically has a bad narrative, but this trailer doesn't at all lead me to think that the story isn't just going to be as reflectively cliche as the concept. Now please stop with the imagination bs, it's obviously just you guys trying to feel more secure in your liking of a product by being condescending to people with any sort of critique toward it.

It's almost like we don't have a super serious game about a fungus that turns people into zombies...

Oh I mean *not zombies*

Spoiler

they're totally zombies

 

[GribbleGrunger]

I mean, i can judge the trailer, yes i can indeed judge that, which is what im referring to.

Story seems slightly less interesting with this latest trailer. You know, more 'mainstream bullshit' being applied it seems. But everything else seems as impressive as ever. Hopefully the game can pull through.

You can't possibly know that yet. How is it used? To what end? How does it play out? What happens that could possibly change the characters? What are the scenes sandwiched in between the basic plot? What exactly IS the overarching plot?

We know that mechanical creatures have taken over planet Earth. We know that it's likely mankind destroyed civilisation. We know that Aloy is connected in some way but don't really know how. That's it.

 

[~Kinggi~]

You can't possibly know that yet. How is it used? To what end? How does it play out? What happens that could possibly change the characters? What are the scenes sandwiched in between the basic plot? What exactly IS the overarching plot?

You're really reaching now. Story trailers are the devs putting their game out there and letting people get a feel for it. Im responding to that, as is everyone else. Of course details arent known but what they are presenting is what im reacting to. Still optimistic as it looks great but just saying i much preferred how it was presented in the first trailer.

 

[opticalmace]

You can't possibly know that yet. How is it used? To what end? How does it play out? What happens that could possibly change the characters? What are the scenes sandwiched in between the basic plot? What exactly IS the overarching plot?

He said "seems", and I'm inclined to agree with him. I don't think he's saying the story is crap, just that the trailer maybe left a bad impression on him story-wise.

 

[Fredrik]

Looks like Naughty Dog will have to keep improving to retain that god status from here on
And knowing how the fan goes when playing Uncharted 4 I wonder how many PS4s GG will kill with this game lol

 

[GribbleGrunger]

You're really reaching now. Story trailers are the devs putting their game out there and letting people get a feel for it. Im responding to that, as is everyone else. Of course details arent known but what they are presenting is what im reacting to. Still optimistic as it looks great but just saying i much preferred how it was presented in the first trailer.

He said "seems", and I'm inclined to agree with him. I don't think he's saying the story is crap, just that the trailer maybe left a bad impression on him story-wise.

We know that mechanical creatures have taken over planet Earth. We know that it's likely mankind destroyed civilisation. We know that Aloy is connected in some way but don't really know how. That's it. It's a story tease and most people will want to find out the finer details during gameplay.