Mihael Mello Keehl
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Obviously not since they will play the same games.. PS4 neo is not a whole brand new console. Read the OP
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Sony confirms PS4 Neo, [Cites smartphone cycle, waiting until enough games post E3]
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Oh for sure, I just mean initial confirmation was probably best for off-stage, which is what this is.
I suspect its actual reveal will be on-stage, probably at PSX (when most your eyes are sony fans).
If they announced and showed this at E3, what would they be showing the public without alienating the current userbase?
Showing games at 4k doesn't translate to streams on YouTube very well, although 60fps for current games would to some degree.
Sony has to release a 4K capable player for the mainstream, but they have to be careful how they do this. It is an interesting development and one that seems natural.
I'd be more than happy to buy a new console every year, but I don't think I'm in the majority. What happens to rev1 users 9 years in, if the platform is still current?
Showing games at 4k doesn't translate to streams on YouTube very well, although 60fps for current games would to some degree.
Sony has to release a 4K capable player for the mainstream, but they have to be careful how they do this. It is an interesting development and one that seems natural.
I'd be more than happy to buy a new console every year, but I don't think I'm in the majority. What happens to rev1 users 9 years in, if the platform is still current?
GHG
Member
Just like every other e3 with no new hardware announcements right?
Last years e3 was so lame...
Audioboxer
Member
Well it was from that. Games released in September, need a Neo patch, games released in October, has to be day 1.
Kind of makes sense for a release, but yeah, jumping to conclusions all round.
spons
Gold Member
God, you're right. I'm going full PC now. Console gaming is DEAD.
If they try copy Nintendo's gorgeous marketing strategy, they have to do it correctly.
It would be interesting to see what the people who trashed Nintendo for this reason say about this now
The difference is the WiiU is dead and buried, and it's expected that Nintendo would be smart enough to announce new hardware.
MS and Sony do not have to do this, as their sales are still going strong. It's not that complicated, and there's certainly no hypocrisy going on if that's what you're implying.
If they traded them in without a release date, specs, or even confirmation of the Neo's existence, then they deserve the parched throats.
Obscuritas
Member
This isn't an official, fully press covered reveal with preorders and such.
The_Intruder
Member
This gen never fail to disappoint me
Agreed.
Theonik
Member
Not just higher resolution but also higher fidelity. Actually thinking about it we might get footage from the Neo version of GOW4 at E3 since the game won't be out before the Neo is out.
PandaShake
Member
Great to know beforehand. Now I won't get blue balls like at PSX. WHY WOULD YOU WEAR A CRASH SHIRT WITH NO ANNOUNCEMENT.
jfoul
Member
Thanks for the link. I was looking for input lag resources for 4K 60 - 65 inch panels.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Are you implying the variables between Sony and Nintendo are the same in this situation? Please tell me you're not and this is just a joke.It would be interesting to see what the people who trashed Nintendo for this reason say about this now
Hitokiri03
Member
That's a weird way to announce a console.
It makes sense if you don't think about PSVR and the time/money spent in that. I was skeptical of Neo releasing this year only because I've heard how much Sony invested in PSVR. Releasing the Neo at any point this year would very easily/quickly overshadow the PSVR release simply because you could do more with Neo than you could PSVR for the prices.
jabberwocker
Banned
They can't reveal this and sell the psvr.... Psvr cost 399-499. They can't add a $400-500 device to that and expect people to bite. Next year they will sell it as an upgrade..
John Wick
Member
They aren't redesigning it. They'll have a few designs on the go at the same time. They'll go for the more powerful design now to combat Scorpio
sixteen-bit
Member
Nice to see them comment on it finally.
Crimson_Gold
Member
It would be interesting to see what the people who trashed Nintendo for this reason say about this now
Not even close to the same situation. PS4 has sold through more than the Wiiu and Xbox 1 combined. Nintendo is fading in the home console space, they needed to bring the noise. Sony only needs to keep showing games and support for their well-performing console.
GravityInsanity
Member
Pisses me off still to this day.
TeddyShardik
Banned
I have the 60inch Samsung SUHDTV and the input lag is practically non existent. It is so nice and snappy. I play a lot of CoD, Overwatch and Battlefield on it with no issue.
There wasn't any last year either that certainly wasn't lame.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Tinfoil hat time.
Did they get wind of Scorpio's specs and decide to make adjustments? Surely not.
Did they get wind of Scorpio's specs and decide to make adjustments? Surely not.
Magic Mushroom
Member
Why? It's the same software platform.
GHG
Member
I'm quitting gaming all together because PC gaming just isn't for me.
fastest finger
Member
I don't get why people are surprised Neo isn't going to be at E3. It's not going to arrive until October at the earliest, so all it would be doing is spending the next 4 months cannibalising PS4 sales and taking focus away from PSVR.
They made the right choice.
They made the right choice.
How can it be lame if there is amazing software on display?
I'm a little bemused by the thirst for new consoles but not the thirst for new games to play on them.
Like y'all would rather see a box that is touted having 6Tflops etc and a bunch of tech demo bs?
wapplew
Member
I like it, just keep it low key. Don't make it a big deal or focus, just another PS4.
Wonder if the same people disappointed in NX not selling at loss will also be disappointed in PS4k not selling at a loss
Freeman
Banned
I'm ok with this, its better to know than be disappointed at the event. That said, now that the cat is out of the bag, why not just mention when it is going to be shown.
At least it exists and will co-exists with the original PS4 as expected. I hope this means we also get a slim PS4.
It just means not all games will show improvements.
At least it exists and will co-exists with the original PS4 as expected. I hope this means we also get a slim PS4.
It just means not all games will show improvements.
Steve McQueen
Member
Personally I think the main reason for upgrading to Neo will be PSVR. So I reckon that in the end, PSVR Will cost me about 800 euro's after all. I hope it will be worth it.
Not sure if already posted, but there is more in the article on the motivations for this, and the kind of model they seem to be projecting.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/aca45ff2-2ea0-11e6-bf8d-26294ad519fc.html#ixzz4BBDtN83v
So the model may not be one of endless generations as much as revisions within generations at a small number of technological inflection points.
Also:
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The investment required to develop the new PS4 is already accounted for in Sony’s latest financial results, he added./QUOTE]
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/aca45ff2-2ea0-11e6-bf8d-26294ad519fc.html#ixzz4BBDtN83v
So the model may not be one of endless generations as much as revisions within generations at a small number of technological inflection points.
Also:
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The investment required to develop the new PS4 is already accounted for in Sony’s latest financial results, he added./QUOTE]
Obscuritas
Member
Didn't you know? PS4 is as much dead as the Wii U.
Doesn't really take away from my hype for E3, for a while I was convinced it would be a no show. It was only somewhat recently I began to think there was a decent chance of it showing up. I want to see more from the many already announced games, and see what will be revealed (Dead Don't Ride, GoW, Spidey). PS4k can wait a few more months.
Samurai G0SU
Member
the reveal will happen at TGS.
jabberwocker
Banned
It would be interesting to see what the people who trashed Nintendo for this reason say about this now
What?? Nintendo has not had a viable console in 3 years. The need to get their ass moving.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
It would be interesting to see what the people who trashed Nintendo for this reason say about this now
But Sony doesn't have declining sales and flop system sis so truly they don't need to be dragged. Plus with the added benefit of having third parties including many first party titles themselves, they aren't on the brink of extinction and actually need to show this system, unlike Nintendo. Sad, because Zelda might be the only thing y'all get this year while the PS4 is still well supported into 2017
LiveFromKyoto
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I was considering doing it just this afternoon, before E3 announcements dropped resale values. This thread has saved me from a grave mistake. In that sense, good on House for managing expectations and getting this out there ahead of time.
What I'm wondering is will they secretly show new games for 2017 that are displaying NEO mode graphics just for the WOW factor without telling us?
Crimson_Gold
Member
No. He's saying that some games that have already been released will not be patched to take advantage of the neo.
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