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Spiderman (PS4 Exclusive) from Insomniac

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Neoxon

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Civil War wasn't going to have as much Iron Man in it as the finished product did. Downey and CAA apparently stepped in and lobbied for a larger role and more points (percentage bonus on film's profits). Perlmutter has been arguing that he doesn't want to put so much money and power into Downey's hands due to the inevitable day that he stops doing Marvel movies.

Perlmutter definitely isn't an idiot. He's just a power-hungry mother-fucker that will effectively micromanage the shit out of a company.
He's also the one who wanted the Inhumans movie to be pretty much an I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-X-Men movie, while Kevin Feige wanted to go the Game of Thrones route. With the movie delayed (Feige has said that the delay was due to Phase 3 getting overstuffed, likely as a result of the additions of Ant-Man & the Wasp and Spider-Man: Homecoming), Feige can undo whatever X-Men-esque elements were in the film originally & move it more towards Jack Kirby's Inhumans. Despite popular belief, it's not cancelled. That's just a rumor that Bleeding Cool stirred up.
 

jurgen

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He's also the one who wanted the Inhumans movie to be pretty much an I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-X-Men movie, while Kevin Feige wanted to go the Game of Thrones route. With the movie delayed (Feige has said that the delay was due to Phase 3 getting overstuffed, likely as a result of the additions of Ant-Man & the Wasp and Spider-Man: Homecoming), Feige can undo whatever X-Men-esque elements were in the film originally & move it more towards Jack Kirby's Inhumans. Despite popular belief, it's not cancelled. That's just a rumor that Bleeding Cool stirred up.

Which is the reason Marvel Comics made such a huge push in the last two years on Inhumans: they need some material to draw from. The only thing note-worthy that they have to show for it is a mediocre appearance of Inhumans on Agents of Shield meant as a test-drive for the MCU and Ms. Marvel.

On a related note, a Karnak game made by Platinum would be boss.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Which is the reason Marvel Comics made such a huge push in the last two years on Inhumans: they need some material to draw from. The only thing note-worthy that they have to show for it is a mediocre appearance of Inhumans on Agents of Shield meant as a test-drive for the MCU and Ms. Marvel.

On a related note, a Karnak game made by Platinum would be boss.
To be fair, the movie is pretty much gonna be its own thing anyway, with its focus on the Royal Family & all.
 
Marvel legally has the rights to give developers access to their entire cast of characters thanks to Activision's hold on certain franchises (the X-Men for example) expiring back in 2014. The only license Activision has left is the Spider-Man movie tie-in license, which expires next year. This isn't a matter of Marvel not being able to use X-Men & Fantastic Four characters, it's the fact that they don't want to. Marvel's been trying to minimize the exposure of the X-Men & the Fantastic Four in an attempt to lower the popularity of both properties (which would in turn screw over Fox). Within the last few years, Marvel has had a bit of a feud with 20th Century Fox over the properties they still hold the movie rights for (the X-Men & the Fantastic Four).

I know this is kind of going ahead of myself, but what are the chances that both Marvel and DC could be gunning for multiverse game sagas for each of their properties? I'm really jazzed that Spider-Man is finally in the hands of a developer with a great track record. They should have done that after Shattered Dimensions flopped in a post Arkham world. So if this Spider-Man ends up being good and spawning an Arkham class franchise, could it end up being the basis for long term development of other Marvel properties? And with Rocksteady having wrapped up on their Arkham games, what are the chances they may start developing games based on other DC properties? Right now, there doesn't seem to be any comic book games that are profitable, other than fighters or Lego games.

The Arkham games are the closest we have to a potential game multiverse to be springboarded from. Another one that could have gained traction a decade ago was the less popular Ultimate XMen/Marvel Alliance series. Even though I found the execution of those games lacking, I did appreciate what they were trying to do. Did the transition to Ultimate Alliance have anything to do with Marvel's feud with Fox?
 

Neoxon

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I know this is kind of going ahead of myself, but what are the chances that both Marvel and DC could be gunning for a shared game universe for each of their properties? I'm really jazzed that Spider-Man is finally in the hands of a developer with a great track record. They should have done that after Shattered Dimensions flopped in a post Arkham world. So if this Spider-Man ends up being good and spawning an Arkham class franchise, could it end up being the basis for long term development of other Marvel properties? And with Rocksteady having wrapped up on their Arkham games, what are the chances they may start developing games based on other DC properties? Right now, there doesn't seem to be any comic book games that are profitable, other than fighters or Lego games.

The Arkham games are the closest we have to a potential game multiverse to be springboarded from. Another one that could have gained traction a decade ago was the less popular Ultimate XMen/Marvel Alliance series. Even though I found the execution of those games lacking, I did appreciate what they were trying to do. Did the transition to Ultimate Alliance have anything to do with Marvel's feud with Fox?
The Marvel-Fox feud didn't really start to get heated until recently, with the ban being put into effect after Contest of Champions came out (which was in mid-2015). As for a possible Marvel Game Universe, it's certainly possible, but it would kinda limit the potential for each game in terms of which characters can be used in which game (Ex: Capcom can't use Green Goblin in MvC4 because Insomniac wants to save him for their third Spider-Man game). It can really go either way.
 

jurgen

Member
To be fair, the movie is pretty much gonna be its own thing anyway, with its focus on the Royal Family & all.

I really wish they would make it a Netflix series or something like that. I don't want the depth of something like the Inhuman genocracy to be condensed to a two hour movie with a shallow villain. Maybe when they're done make origin stories into 19-hour tv movies, we could get something nice.

It would make for a fantastic RPG though. Just look at the Jenkins/Lee run. You can have a mute protagonist and so many interesting styles of combat involved with a long, branching story tackling stuff like Alpha-Primitives, Maximus, and the human nations.
 

Neoxon

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I really wish they would make it a Netflix series or something like that. I don't want the depth of something like the Inhuman genocracy to be condensed to a two hour movie with a shallow villain. Maybe when they're done make origin stories into 19-hour tv movies, we could get something nice.

It would make for a fantastic RPG though. Just look at the Jenkins/Lee run. You can have a mute protagonist and so many interesting styles of combat involved with a long, branching story tackling stuff like Alpha-Primitives, Maximus, and the human nations.
A Netflix series would be solid, but Feige already has the Royal Family on lock-down.

Though your idea for an Inhumans game sounds godlike. I like the way you think.
 

Macrotus

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On a side note, I'm absolutely in love with this shot:
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The camera angle, like I'd lose my mind having a shot like this in the movie visually, let alone whilst playing a Spider-Man game.

That gif is godly.

I really hope players can really customise their moves/combos (less automated, few QTE as possible).
 

jurgen

Member
I know this is kind of going ahead of myself, but what are the chances that both Marvel and DC could be gunning for multiverse game sagas for each of their properties? I'm really jazzed that Spider-Man is finally in the hands of a developer with a great track record. They should have done that after Shattered Dimensions flopped in a post Arkham world. So if this Spider-Man ends up being good and spawning an Arkham class franchise, could it end up being the basis for long term development of other Marvel properties? And with Rocksteady having wrapped up on their Arkham games, what are the chances they may start developing games based on other DC properties? Right now, there doesn't seem to be any comic book games that are profitable, other than fighters or Lego games.

The Arkham games are the closest we have to a potential game multiverse to be springboarded from. Another one that could have gained traction a decade ago was the less popular Ultimate XMen/Marvel Alliance series. Even though I found the execution of those games lacking, I did appreciate what they were trying to do. Did the transition to Ultimate Alliance have anything to do with Marvel's feud with Fox?

I think a videogame multiverse or shared universe for these properties is too much of a niche goal to try and manage. Arkham could do it only because Rocksteady has sprinkled so many easter eggs throughout the series over the past seven years. It would take massive coordination between multiple studios to get something like that going for Marvel videogames and you'd eventually end up with a mess akin to DC's current live-action movies. If not, the public might get burnt out by the superhero genre to the point that investors don't see it as worth pushing for.
 

Bad_Boy

time to take my meds
im curious of how much of the movement is controllable. the cafe scene specifically looked super impressive. like how much choice do you have over jumping over tables to moving to the post to back to a table to crashing through the window.
 

God Enel

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I fucking love the costume. first time I saw it I was like meh.. but after some minutes I grew and me and its amazing.

Cant wait for the game!
 

xevis

Banned
Yay, another franchise game. If it's not Batman, it's Spiderman. I grew up loving both of these characters but gosh, I'm pretty sick of seeing them.

I know neither of these two is going away anytime soon but considering how large the Marvel stable is, it sure would be nice if they focused on something else. At least pick a different Spider-man! Isn't there an alternate universe version where he's black? How about Spiderman 2099? Heck, how about Spider-Girl?

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Honestly I am sad it's exclusive, not trying to troll or whatever, but since Playstation isn't where I like to play games, if this turns out to be a masterpiece I'll never have the option to enjoy a game with my favorite superhero without getting a console that doesn't have a lot of value for me personally. Many people wouldn't be happy if the next Arkham game was exclusive to xbox or PC. I understand why Sony would do it, but it's just a bummer for fans of Spiderman that are outside of the playstation overlap. Guess I will have to own a PS4 just for this like I did with Bloodborne for eight months. I'm willing to do it but it's easy to understand why having to buy a console with a game just to play it and then sell the console you don't want and never get to play the great game again is frustrating.

If you can't afford to keep the console after you bought it once then you probably shouldn't buy it again. Did you really think that Bloodborne would be the only exclusive on PlayStation you would want to play this generation?
 

J4g3r

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Really hoping this sets a new standard for Spider-Man games, like Arkham Asylum did for Batman.

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Looking really promising.
 
It says a lot when Sony made this the last game announcement. I have re-watched this trailer over 40 times already.

Yeah; I've probably watched it about a dozen times. It's so good. I love the animation on Spidey - it looks like they've utterly nailed that already.

This was my favorite part of the conference, it would be amazing if more publishers/developers took licensed properties more seriously. Insomniac being the developer is a huge statement.

Yeah, the superhero genre would be as viable in gaming as it is in movies if publishers would only put the necessary budgets in, and get quality developers on board. Insomniac is a seriously good choice for this game, and after years of Activision shitting out low-quality games on a fast turnaround I'm glad to see Sony have a crack at the license.


For those wondering about the web-swinging, you can see in this gif that his web is angled left towards the buildings, suggesting that it's probably physically attached to something. I think Insomniac are going to nail this aspect, as they must know it's one of the things people love most about Spidey games.
 

Ridygo

Member
Can anyone start a pole about costume? Does everyone is okay with that? I think the only bad thing about this game is the costume!
 

bunkitz

Member
I hope the mods never put the hyphen into the title since you guys are so anal about it >:)

That's fucking sick, man.
So is there any way to get rid of Perlmutter short of a heart attack

Disney, maybe. Don't see it happening anytime soon, though. Which really sucks. Fucking despise that asshole for what he's done to the X-Men and Fantastic Four in the comics. Although, at least Hickman managed to give them a fantastic (pun not intended but appreciated nonetheless) send-off in Secret Wars. Just gotta wait for the day they return...

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I'm really glad it's an exclusive. It allows me to have so much more faith in the game, because as much faith as Insomniac is giving me, I am so much more confident that this will be a spectacular game knowing that Sony is supporting it like this.

It would be pretty strange if most Marvel console games from now on are PlayStation exclusives, though. The idea that a bunch of Sony's studios are all working on Marvel games is just... weird. I mean, I'd love that, but it would still be weird.
 
Can anyone start a pole about costume? Does everyone is okay with that? I think the only bad thing about this game is the costume!

It's worth pointing out that they've said that there's a reason for the costume. They aren't discussing it now, but there seems to be more to it.
 
The gifs below could be gameplay parts of the game. In the first gif you can see a move like Batman's glide kick in the Arkham games. In the second gif, you can see that Spidey has webed the thing he throws at the bad guys. You can use the enviroment to hit your enemies, probably.

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I like what I see. But that suit is sooo ugly. I hope it gets shredded and have Peter replace it with the classic one with the bug-like back logo.
 

Wollan

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I get the same warm feeling as when the Sam Raimi movies were creating hype. I guess it's the music and that beautiful rendition of New York with narration. Trailer is edited really well.

I think next years Marvel movie will be great entertainment but I think it will likely be more humor than humor/warmth (ugh) combo of the Sam Raimi movies.
 

Some Nobody

Junior Member
I like what I see. But that suit is spool ugly. I hope it gets shredded and have Peter replace it with the classic one with the bug-like back logo.

Other way around. A developer interview made it sound like he's wearing this costume for a specific, likely plot-related reason. Doesn't matter, you'll be able to swap skins I'm sure. I want to wear his current Amazing Spider-Man "armor" outfit personally.
 

DrBo42

Member
I love the idea of Activision execs looking at the reaction people are having to that trailer and being shocked. "Wait...so if we made a game that looked good, people would freak out like this to the point of even buying a console for it?" It's amazing what happens when you give a competent team enough time and resources.
 
The gifs below could be gameplay parts of the game. In the first gif you can see a move like Batman's glide kick in the Arkham games. In the second gif, you can see that Spidey has webed the thing he throws at the bad guys. You can use the enviroment to hit your enemies, probably.

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the connection of the webbed item and the bad guy makes it look like gameplay.
 
Have Insomiac given any indication of when we will see this release? It had to be pretty far into development, Sunset Overdrive was a year ago now and a large chunk must be working on this game since. It really does look lovely though, Insomniac are a better fit for this game than Sucker Punch me thinks, also allows SP to work on a new IP which is very exciting.
 
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