Tom Nook Sawyer
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I don't know why one would assume being a Ghostbusters fan also means they're a fan of "guy humor."
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I don't know why one would assume being a Ghostbusters fan also means they're a fan of "guy humor."
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
It in fact, did not.
Poor, poor James.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
MundaneMatt
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
South Park & Ghostbusters
Thats exactly the problem.
thecouncil
Banned
I was ready to give the movie a fair shot. I don't care what gender the Ghostbusters are, I just want a good movie.
The first joke is very important for a movie. It sets the tone for what we can expect to see. It is the pickup line, the first kiss, all sorts of things like that.
The movie opened with a queef joke...
My reaction
Fart and queef jokes are just so horrible. HORRIBLE.
So you wrote up that whole thing about how important the "first joke" is and somehow forgot that the "first" joke in question is a good 15-20 minutes into the movie, after many others?
SonicMegaDrive
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Ah, I do remember that article now. Thanks.
QuantumZebra
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When you're grasping at straws, you take what you can get
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Interesting enough he ain't the first, perhaps the first went straight over their heads.
excelsiorlef
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MundaneMatt is a literal gamergater soooo it's no surprise.
I a Actually thought the best jokes in this (and the originals) are the ones that sort of fly by and you can miss them if your not paying attention.
The beginning of the new one is brilliant for that. The deadpan delivery is great. He's saying super funny shit during the tour but if you aren't paying attention you'll completely miss it. Similarly in GB2 there's a spot where Egon deadpan says "I'd like to examine the mother gynecologically."
I literally Lol'ed at that when researching it recently, but my kid just sat there oblivious.
In comparison the fart joke, the blowjob ghost, or the middle finger bit fall flat for me in comparison. They're just too on the nose and obvious for my personal taste.
I also thought Leslie Jones did a really good job of capturing that sort of humor. Her interaction with Rowan was hilarious, as well as trying to walk out of the concert with the ghost on her shoulders (and her ghosbusting on her own beforehand).
The beginning of the new one is brilliant for that. The deadpan delivery is great. He's saying super funny shit during the tour but if you aren't paying attention you'll completely miss it. Similarly in GB2 there's a spot where Egon deadpan says "I'd like to examine the mother gynecologically."
I literally Lol'ed at that when researching it recently, but my kid just sat there oblivious.
In comparison the fart joke, the blowjob ghost, or the middle finger bit fall flat for me in comparison. They're just too on the nose and obvious for my personal taste.
I also thought Leslie Jones did a really good job of capturing that sort of humor. Her interaction with Rowan was hilarious, as well as trying to walk out of the concert with the ghost on her shoulders (and her ghosbusting on her own beforehand).
I'll agree with these, not my type of humor either. The movie didn't need them at all.
starchild excalibur
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Because the original Ghostbusters didn't have South Park-style jokes that alluded to blowjobs? Because "Dickless" isn't the type of insult Cartman would lob at someone in the show?
I'm not assuming every Ghostbusters fan is a fan of "guy humor," but given that GB1 had a few jokes in there that were pretty low brow - and that jokes involving flatulence aren't exactly an anomaly in American comedy - I'm saying that I hope none of the people loudly protesting about a throw away joke have ever laughed at similar jokes in the dozens of male-starring comedies that have featured such jokes.
Or are we going to argue that Ghostbusters is a franchise that's always been comedy for the thinking man?
Super liked the movie.
I felt that mostly the action scenes fell really flat. Like they tried to do slapstick like they did with Spy, but it didn't work with the CG as well as it did with live action.
I felt that mostly the action scenes fell really flat. Like they tried to do slapstick like they did with Spy, but it didn't work with the CG as well as it did with live action.
I would have rather they cut the budget for that last scene (why in the holy fuck did they have to transport people back to 1920s time square? what was the fucking point of that? seemed like lots of unecessary CG at the end for a scene that mostly fell flat.
The dance off in the post credits worked out better as a gag. I would have preferred they do something there instead of the CG fest at the end. Kept it smaller. Felt like they were trying too hard with that whole final scene to throw in action and it both was not funny and wasn't a good action scene.
The dance off in the post credits worked out better as a gag. I would have preferred they do something there instead of the CG fest at the end. Kept it smaller. Felt like they were trying too hard with that whole final scene to throw in action and it both was not funny and wasn't a good action scene.
starchild excalibur
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Yeah.
I actually enjoyed the final battle, but I don't think it was necessary - especially if it would have saved them 20 mil (or however much it would have cost).
alfredofroylan
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Terminator 3 happened and crippled the franchise in such way that the next movies tried to soft reboot the franchise instead of fixing the issues of the first three films.
TGO
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No it didn't, it had sarcastic humour.
And I'll pretend you didn't compare the original Ghostbusters humour as South Park style humour and leave it at that.
I ain't even bothered by it, I love South Park and Films like Ted
But trying to make out it the same as the original to defend it is reaching, the original isn't even Adam Sandler comedy
It more in line with something you'd find in an episode of Stargate SG-1.
There a serious tone with a hint of comic relief
It's not 10 year old fart and fanny or dick jokes.
And I can't believe people are trying to make out....no sorry blatantly telling people it is same.
starchild excalibur
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You don't have to pretend - I never said the humor was the same. I just said that a few of the jokes were low brow, lowest common denominator stuff - no different than one queef joke in the new one that keeps getting brought up.
The new one isn't 10 year old fart or dick jokes either. There's one queef joke in the film. If a ghostly blowjob isn't enough to deter your enjoyment of the first one, then one queef joke shouldn't be able to do the same for this one either. If you don't enjoy the comedy overall, that's fine. But the queef joke isn't indicative of the general style of humor in GB2016.
heliosRAzi
Banned
I watched until they started saying what they thought of it, and then I thought to myself "I know where the next 40 minutes is going" and closed the tab.
I still like their reviews.
brandonh83
Banned
Does Jay hate everything? I mean the other guys are hating on it too but I feel like every Half in the Bag session is Jay bitching about everything. Even when Mike likes something Jay's like wuuut
He compares it to Pixels. Absolutely not.
He compares it to Pixels. Absolutely not.
brandonh83
Banned
I felt that way about Rowan at first but when the meta-ness of it dawned on me it went from a 5 to an 11 for me lol
The RLM guys can be a little full of themselves sometimes, but they're usually on point. I do feel like the quality of their reviews has gone down over the years, (they put a lot more personal opinion in than actual analytical discussion) but I still enjoy them.
Even when they decide to throw 5 minutes on nonsensical story in.
Forsaken82
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I agree with the CG.
It didn't help that they spent the CG Budget on turningTime Square back to the 80s (it wasn't the 20s lol) and then decided to obscure the whole thing like some Video Game random battle fight area complete with a cloud of mist obscuring the rest of the environment and preventing the GBs from leaving the battle area during the final like 5 minutes of the fight
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Did anyone watch Doug & Rob Walker's Sibling Rivalry video? They're pretty much on-point and it's some of the most level-headed commentary I've seen on the movie so far.
brandonh83
Banned
Oh I mean I like them, they're funny. Well, Mike.
I like Mike and Rich. Jay tends to be a little whiny sometimes, but I tend to agree with his opinions more and share his taste in movies.
I'm still baffled how Mike hated every single Roland Emmerich Movie but enjoyed ID2... but at least he admits he likes it because it was "schlock."
Damn, I basically completely forgot about that. It's like somewhere on the cutting room floor there's stuff tying the movie together.
WordAssassin
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If she actually said that then she's a fear mongering idiot because the creators of BTTF have been explicitly clear that no sequel, reboot, or remake can EVER happen while they are still alive. And you can bet that the moment they die, BTTF will be remade and it will have absolutely nothing to do with Ghostbusters at all.
Did you get to the movie 20 minutes late? There are literally dozens of jokes before the queef joke. The first jokes of the movie are actually very subtle jokes played straight, much like the original Ghostbusters! Which also had some extremely crass jokes in it as well as some kind of weird gang rape chant at the end. Imagine that!I was ready to give the movie a fair shot. I don't care what gender the Ghostbusters are, I just want a good movie.
The first joke is very important for a movie. It sets the tone for what we can expect to see. It is the pickup line, the first kiss, all sorts of things like that.
The movie opened with a queef joke...
My reaction
Fart and queef jokes are just so horrible. HORRIBLE.
Let me see how many I can remember off the top of my head that come before your panic attack about fart jokes.
Opening joke is about face bidets
Followed immediately by a joke about anti-irish fences
After that is a joke about enslaving elephants
We then get a sight gag to explain the falling candle
Lots of slapstick with Garrett trying to escape the house
Next up we're introduced to Erin and we get a gag where it looks like she's giving a lecture but there's actually nobody there
She tries to shake out her nerves and Ed Bagley Jr catches her
Jokes about how she didn't write the book despite her picture being in the dust jacket
Joke about the book being on audiobook but Ed doesn't need it because he knows how to read
Now we move on to introduce Abby, beginning with a joke about the delivery boy
Joke about the helmet Abby is wearing
Joke about her soup only having one wanton in it
Joke that it's even cut in half with no meat just a carrot
Introduction to Holtzman
Pretty sure there's a joke in here too but I don't remember it
THEN the fart joke.
Followed immediately by a joke about anti-irish fences
After that is a joke about enslaving elephants
We then get a sight gag to explain the falling candle
Lots of slapstick with Garrett trying to escape the house
Next up we're introduced to Erin and we get a gag where it looks like she's giving a lecture but there's actually nobody there
She tries to shake out her nerves and Ed Bagley Jr catches her
Jokes about how she didn't write the book despite her picture being in the dust jacket
Joke about the book being on audiobook but Ed doesn't need it because he knows how to read
Now we move on to introduce Abby, beginning with a joke about the delivery boy
Joke about the helmet Abby is wearing
Joke about her soup only having one wanton in it
Joke that it's even cut in half with no meat just a carrot
Introduction to Holtzman
Pretty sure there's a joke in here too but I don't remember it
THEN the fart joke.
It wasn't the 20s but it wasn't the 80s either. It wasn't made specifically clear but he brought back ghosts from every era. They turn the movie posters in the background into Taxi Driver (70s movie) and Isle of the Snake People (60s movie) there are ghosts from just about every era of American History in that sequence. Which makes sense given that the original plan for the bad guy was that he was a mass murderer and when he died he brought back the ghosts of every other mass murderer in American history.
……forgetit
Member
It was okay imo, not really that funny but not particularly bad either. Basically it was perfectly average. I never laughed hard but it got a few smiles and chuckles out of me.
Review is pretty good I always get a good laugh out of them, will be interested in hearing impressions of this movie months or even a year down the line.
wesleyshark
Banned
Just watched Comic Book Girl 19's review- she gives her immediate thoughts quickly, then goes beyond the film review to dig into the controversy surrounding it and where Sony went wrong with how they handled the marketing and hyping the troll war, essentially. It's a really solid video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn_vAcFGTJU
tl;dr she didn't like the movie at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn_vAcFGTJU
tl;dr she didn't like the movie at all.
Unsubbed to her quick a while back cause she's annoying.
But man lol she's a freaking dunce.
excelsiorlef
Member
I've said before, the more folks talk about a Back to the Future remake, the more I want it. Travel back thirty+ years to the 80s or something. So much can be done.
I'm telling you movies are the only place where people lose their fucking minds over remakes. No one freaks out over covers of songs or remounts of plays but remake a movie and people go ape shit like it's the fucking apocalypse. Either just don't see them or give each one a chance on its own merits... either way shut the fuck up about remakes. They've been a thing for as long as movies have been a thing, nothing is thst sacred and that's a good thing. This idea that remakes are what an affront to your geekdom or something is so very very very sad.
It's telling that this animosity really heated up when 4 women got to be the stars. I also think it's no coincidence that the people who wanted this to be a watershed movement against remakes/reboots are among those who most downplay the sheer amount of sexism that came as a response to it and go after Feig for daring to respond. These are the people who address the sexism not to condemn the sexism but to rile up anti-reboot sentiment by insinuating that Feig and Sony are calling everyone sexist and attacking fans. It's fucking nonsense.
Anti-reboot people were never going to like this movie and were never going to give it a chance. That's fine but they should be honest about it and shouldn't resort to fear mongering about Back to the Future, or dismissing people who liked the film as to scared to admit they hated it.
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
I'm more confused about her as she made a video Bascially saying "don't watch it" but then watched it herself.
She's adding to the problem of more remakes being made but shrug
excelsiorlef
Member
She probably snuck in or got a free ticket.
Or who needs principles when you can get hits and views.
WordAssassin
Member
Agreed on all counts. I don't really understand why anyone is waiting to reboot BTTF though when they can simply make a time travel movie whenever they want. I mean they could literally remake BTTF in everything but name and people would just be like "Why did they even do this when they could have put the BTTF name on it since that's what it's obviously trying to be" (aka the opposite of Ghostbusters "why didn't they just make this movie without the Ghostbuster name" can't win can you!?!)
I'd love to see a spiritual successor or sequel to BTTF using today's technology and going back to the 80s. I feel like a movie like that would probably do pretty well too because 1) it'll scratch the BTTF itch and 2) all the 80s kids are adults now and nostalgic for their childhood. It's not like BTTF owns the time travel concept.
I'll hopefully be watching this film sometime this week. I am expecting it to fall short of the original but to be much better than the shitty second film. If Ghostbusters was a sacred cow it was slain back in the 80s and anyone claiming that the vitriol against this film is down to an anti-remake backlash rather than misogyny is being disingenuous.
Funny to see the top rated comments in CBG19's video. If you lie down with dogs...
Also after Zero Time Dilemma and a certain conversation in that game, hell yes, give me another Back to the Future!
Funny to see the top rated comments in CBG19's video. If you lie down with dogs...
Also after Zero Time Dilemma and a certain conversation in that game, hell yes, give me another Back to the Future!
excelsiorlef
Member
And it's not like every movie in the series are classics either. 2 and 3 are alright but they aren't close to one in quality.
That's my favorite thing I think, people get all freaked out about corporate cash ins when usually the sequels teeter on that to begin with.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Ah, so THAT'S why that post is so upvoted on the subreddit.
excelsiorlef
Member
She could literally be their poster child.
She hits all the talking points, right down to there wasn't that much sexism Sony just made it up and everyone actually hates this movie they're just too afraid of the real harassers, it's hillarious.
Meanwhile Leslie Jones is getting driven off twitter but sure it's not sexism or racism, people just don't want reboots. Fuck off
Back to the Future Cinematic Universe *shudder*
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