metalslimer
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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Pie and Beans
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MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Share the pics please where is it
PdotMichael
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like the PSP!
NegativeCero
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No BC is kinda a bummer, but handheld/console hybrid sounds great to me. Can't wait until the official unveil.
ArtHands
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Its not confirmed nor announced by Nintendo yet. Chill with that "i told you so" attitude
nordique
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I am pretty excited for this device. Sounds really cool.
This is what I'm thinking. An "audible fan" in a handheld doesn't make much sense to me.
This is what I'm thinking. An "audible fan" in a handheld doesn't make much sense to me.
One thing I can see it being successful is not in the console itself, but because Nintendo will now have only 1 system, so all their focus and games will be on it.
It will have the games from handheld side (proper Pokemon game, bite sized games, Brain Age type games, puzzle games, Professor Layton type games), alongside the big franchise that are usually on console (Mario, Zelda, Metroid etc). All in a single system.
It will have the games from handheld side (proper Pokemon game, bite sized games, Brain Age type games, puzzle games, Professor Layton type games), alongside the big franchise that are usually on console (Mario, Zelda, Metroid etc). All in a single system.
It looks good but it's probably horrible to handle for a couple hours. To this day I can't believe how uncomfortable the WiiU tablet is for me.
I practically don't play with my console because of it.
Hopefully Nintendo has taken comfort into consideration when designing the NX.
That Damn Kid
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I hope that if they make a model for mobile carriers it isn't exclusive to one carrier like the Vita was.
Ragnar Blackmane
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Yes. That was in 2012. Now smartphones are dominating the mobile gaming market even more. Particularly in Japan where a ton of 3DS devices was sold early in its life. So yes, the NX can definitely go the way of the Vita if the market turns out to have moved away from dedicated handhelds. Especially if it ends up rather pricy by Handheld standards because of the hardware and gadgets. If it ends up selling NX numbers or less to a niche audience then that's not going to be enough.
Eurogamer mentioned a base dock for the NX, so there is the possibility that the power may get buffed by said dock.
last year in japan, there were five games that sold 2 million units each on the 3ds. i believe that's the only time that's happened on a dedicated gaming platform over there.
nintendo has had some very recent success with software on 3ds, indicating demand for it. we saw some early this year with fire emblem fates in the west and we'll see it again at the end of the year with pokemon gen vii. this fanbase doesn't go away unless nintendo specifically ignores it.
The fact that it's even being reported on is big news.
Nostremitus
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That would indeed be a different story, but they haven't said that.
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Deleted member 752119
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Another thought about the dock/base station boosting performance...could it be cloud based? Like what MS is trying with Crackdown 3?
Dock and have sufficient internet speed and it gets a nice boost. Dock with insufficient or no internet and it just plays at portable fidelity levels or gets a soft boost from being able to overclock from not having to minimize power consumption to save battery life.
Dock and have sufficient internet speed and it gets a nice boost. Dock with insufficient or no internet and it just plays at portable fidelity levels or gets a soft boost from being able to overclock from not having to minimize power consumption to save battery life.
TLZ
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And there's that too. I'm still on the fence until we see official news from nintendo.
Thanks Amy.
I don't think it will, though. Having the two controller units be symmetrical will probably be Nintendo's priority.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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This is Nintendo, so no. They can't even store everyone's Mario Maker levels; there's no way they'll augment the NX with cloud-based rendering. Plus cloud-based rendering isn't nearly fast enough for most game purposes, which is why it's being used only for crumbling buildings in Crackdown, where you don't need an immediate response
Theognosis
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It's Nintendo's next handheld, no doubt. My thoughts:
1. Being cartridge-based means it can play 3DS games with the screen in vertical position. Good call as people will have plenty of content for the new handheld on Day 1.
2. Nintendo is ditching the 3D effect. I will value my 3DS's more than ever since I love the effect.
3. It can't play Wii U games so Wii U owners will most likely not sell their consoles.
4. The NX is a software development platform, not a piece of hardware. NX will support PC in the near future.
5. Nintendo will abandon the home console market and switch to PC with their own version of Steam.
1. Being cartridge-based means it can play 3DS games with the screen in vertical position. Good call as people will have plenty of content for the new handheld on Day 1.
2. Nintendo is ditching the 3D effect. I will value my 3DS's more than ever since I love the effect.
3. It can't play Wii U games so Wii U owners will most likely not sell their consoles.
4. The NX is a software development platform, not a piece of hardware. NX will support PC in the near future.
5. Nintendo will abandon the home console market and switch to PC with their own version of Steam.
I mentioned this earlier, but it got buried in all of the gut reactions. Anyway, if this NX rumor proves true, I fear for what it may entail for competitive Smash, especially if I can't plug in a GameCube Adapter to the TV dock (or at least some kind of wired controller). This would suck even more if the port of Smash 4 ends up having more content that would impact competitive play.
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the_sun_king
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Don't see much of an incentive to get Breath of the Wild on this thing then if these rumors are indeed true. Depends on how different the experience will be versus the Wii U version. So, wait and see.
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I'd love to see this, but don't think they'll go that route unless this hybrid totally bombs in the west.
And I think the more apt comparison would be Battle.net or EA Origin as they'd likely just have their own games in any of storefront/ecosystem rather than also having third party games if that ever panned out.
Pie and Beans
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Tom Nook Sawyer
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It's a good thing the OP nor Eurogamer said anything about the base station adding extra power, which is clearly what the guy you quoted was replying to
But the SCDs are local instead of using server farms millions of miles away.
Dock could function as a USB hub for peripherals, allowing the WiiU/GC adapter to be used. Again, that's bringing us closer to the idea of a true 'hybrid' than has been mentioned.
There's no mention of a spec boost there.
Council Pop
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This has probably already been said, but the big issue with this for me is that it just doesn't seem very portable. I understand the images are just mock ups, but if it's a large screen with detachable controllers I don't see how we'll ever get 3DS or Vita level or portability. The great thing about the 3DS is I could easily just throw it in my bag. Even if this is Ipad Mini size, it's still going to be a huge change from the 3DS.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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The ping is still unlikely to be fast enough given Nintendo's emphases on real-time performance. . But even if it were, connections aren't reliable enough for that to be feasible for Nintendo.
There is literally no chance in hell Nintendo is even contemplating this. It only adds costs and complications for something that Nintendo doesn't even need given the types of games they usually make. They also can't bank on everyone having a fast enough connection--or even a connection at all.
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No word on storage, but if it's mobile, don't expect a HDD at all. My guess is you'll see some flash storage somewhere in the range of 16-128 GB (probably 16 or 32 GB, knowing Nintendo, but it depends on game sizes) and it'll be reliant on using SD cards for expanding the memory. Perhaps external HDD support with the base.
Perih Xoph
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Yeah, while it takes reading between the lines for sure it's hard to imagine it not providing some boost if it's a base unit/dock station.
If it's doing nothing but passing video to the TV via HDMI then it's completely pointless as an HDMI dongle and/or mini HDMI out on the portable would make more sense and keep cost down and profit margins higher.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Why does there have to be a spec boost to be a hybrid? That may be something you want personally, but by definition a portable that also docks and acts as a home console with detachable controllers IS a hybrid.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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It wouldn't cost much than the dock Nintendo already provides with the Wii U, so clearly Nintendo deems it an acceptable expense for the convenience. Plus a cradle makes way more sense for marketing purposes too, than merely plugging in a cord. The cradle may also serve some other functions we'rew not aware of, outside of adding CPU power
One slight change for comfort. For most people, sorry south paws, left thumbstick and ABXY aligned equally is far more comfortable. Right thumbstick is only used marginally comparatively so it doesn't make sense to have it in a prime resting place for your thumb.
It also allows for symmetry when the controllers are detached for either play. Otherwise it's a really nice mockup.
Others put in the little New 3DS right nub stick as well, but I'm not sure that's necessary, but it might be a nice addition. I would also say it would be nice to have an extra 1/4 inch on either side so that the inputs aren't directly aligned vertically but are slightly offset. Makes for more natural thumb movement going slight down at an angle instead of directly down.
Buggy Loop
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I think Nvidia went to great lengths (and cheap) to get nintendo.
If semi-accurate from may has any bit of truths..
Software support would be a huge deal too. Nvidia is no slouch with developer's support.
Honestly, I bet they will make it. Not at launch but later as ways to upgrade mid life cycle instead of having to buy a new iteration.
Colonel Mustard
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Why are you laughing? #5 will likely happen with everyone in the next couple of decades as cloud gaming becomes more and more viable.
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True semantically. But doesn't make sense really unless this is just a portable and they're either totally getting out of the console space or have a later console (and/or PC ecosystem) in the works.
Otherwise, without a boost it will not be much of a jump over Wii U probably (not getting even X1 level performance out of a portable at a reasonable price or battery life). And that won't fly with big screen gamers in the west who don't care about portables and won't upgrade to something that's a marginal step up from Wii U.
So if this is it for them they really need to hit at least X1 level performance when hooked up to a TV if they want any success from that market. And they must or they wouldn't bother with a dock at all and would just focus on the portable marker entirely.
Serenitynow
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Let's stick with my concept of playing a co-op, 2D Mario.
With a wiimote, you essentially have a NES controller when you turn it sideways. No problem. With this, let's say you get the right detachable controller. Turn it sideways, and you have one analog stick and four buttons. An analog stick isn't my preferred way to play 2D Mario, but it works.
But what if you get the left detachable controller? You have an analog stick and a D-pad. How are you going to play Mario with that?
The detachables in the Eurogamer mock up seem ill suited to any type of game that isn't pure waggle, and that's way I hope either A.) the drawing is purely conceptual, or B.) they utilize the swappable controller parts patent for this.
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