probably will be smaller, but great mock-up.e exactly how I imagine it
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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probably will be smaller, but great mock-up.e exactly how I imagine it
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Those controllers wouldn't work and it looks way too similar to the Wii U.
detachable controller parts isn't it?
Nah, thats just the top of a 2DS. Might as well buy a 2DS for $50 and get 2 screens with more innovation.
Took about 10 days for Nintendo to confirm Project Café was real after Ubisoft blew the thing wide open on 01net though of course they said nothing of the device itself just when we would see it
SinCityAssassin
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Come ooooon scroll wheel shoulder pads.
nogoodnamesleft
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Every mock up so far has been downright awful. I really hope it will be an aesthetically pleasing handheld.
I think they would. the left side just needs to have hidden shoulder buttons on the inside of the controller
looool
Not possible. They want to consolidate their market into one unit. And unofficially stating that they were leaving the console market by announcing a handheld but no console would have done a huge number on them in terms of market confidence
This is the second reason why its a hybrid, the first reason being to combine their two development arms
GhostTrick
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Hybrid, detachable controller, local multiplayer on the go with one console. Although I feel like every of these has been done before.
On the contrary. The "hardcore" are Nintendo's white whale. Instead, Nintendo is once again moving in to open waters to target the many other whales.
I'm thinking that there is major potential for NX to utilize GeForce Now cloud service, even if the SCD never happens. Especially in Japan where everyone has access to very high bandwidth. The main point of GeForce Now is that you can play games on Nvidia Shield TV that itcould never handle natively. The same could happen with NX.
GeForce Now is a huge leap from older cloud gaming services, and has far more potential and Sony's current Remote Play.
GeForce Now is a huge leap from older cloud gaming services, and has far more potential and Sony's current Remote Play.
ProtomanNeo
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Don't look like stand alone controllers and people keep forgetting that you can have
a traditional style controllers that can literally be embedded in the screen like this.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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The mockups are so bad.
Dark Cloud
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That's ugly...and how would those detachable controllers work?
Felipe Simao
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Sounds like another gimmick flop. At least maybe this time they can force Monster Hunter to have some decent graphics and so I might buy one.
family_guy
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Made a small edit for those that can't live without the dpad. I call it the dbuttons.
The design just doesn't work. You can't have the face buttons way down at the bottom. It's not ergonomic at all. I wouldn't be surprised if it looks like the New Nintendo 3DS with an analog nub.
What a time to be the Pokemon Bank.
Reallink
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You're assuming they care about the super nerd core gamer contingency on Neogaf et al. They don't give 2 shits, this is an all in play on recapturing the OG Wii crowd. See Reggie Blue Ocean comments. Honestly, it stands a good chance of working to.
MissCauthon
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Don't look like stand alone controllers and people keep forgetting that you can have
a traditional style controllers that can literally be embedded in the screen like this.
Didn't some info at some point mention something about Nintendo wanting to research on round screen? or something like that... it was a while ago....
Here's the article...
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-eyes-doughnut-shaped-screen-report-claims/1100-6424284/
ProtomanNeo
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The story goes that Nintendo reached out to Sharp to use the tech in their next system, and that's all anyone knows. There had been talk of donut shaped screens and what not, but no hard facts. In my mind's eye I see two snes style controllers that the screen wraps around.
Hopefully they'll do something like the Gameboy player to do something at least. Nintendo always seems to find away to get some kind of backwards compatibility working.
Guess it depends on what we mean by "resolution changes". Output resolution or render resolution? If render resolution stays the same, which I assume it will if there's no augmenting dock, then yeah 540 would be good, but of course that means blocky looking on your TV. In this scenario I wonder if they'll go 720 to get a good compromise. 720 looks OK on 1080, 50" TV's.
If there's an augmenting dock, then I don't think it'll matter too much what the handheld is if the docked unit can output 1080 native for instance although there would be a little incentive for things like UI elements which would scale nicely pixel for pixel
Slider sticks make me cry but I would imagine that a docked unit could just use a pro controller.
MissCauthon
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Nintendo is not quoted in their plans to make a donut shaped display. The Japan Times is making an assumption with no basis of fact except that the technology "allows displays to be moulded (molded) into many unique shapes".
Don't look like stand alone controllers and people keep forgetting that you can have
a traditional style controllers that can literally be embedded in the screen like this.
Recliner Simulator 3000
Controls: Tuning in Tokyo panpots & Dual Theremin
ProtomanNeo
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That's what I was attempting to say.
malboroking
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Nes was not the most powerful console. Snes was debatable. N64 was the most powerful. GameCube was not. Wii was not. WiiU was not. I'm old enough to remember them all.
I'm guessing the display will look more like a skateboarding half pipe, with the supplemental controllers sliding out perpendicular to the screen. It would also give Nintendo logical attachment points and motion controllers if they wanted to transition it into a VR device.
I think the biggest question is how would the general consumer react to a portable device that might be close to an inch thick at its widest point
I think the biggest question is how would the general consumer react to a portable device that might be close to an inch thick at its widest point
Too far apart you say?
I think it looks fine. It might take the thumbs a few seconds to move to the other ends. Although what is the struggle? Try reaching for the triangle on the ds4. Takes a good amount of time to press when working that right analog.
Refreshment.01
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At least not in the way it has been presented to us by the Eurogamer rumor, from my viewpoint of course. The device needs something eye catching for it's form factor. See for example the oval shaped patent.
i say this because theres tech available that could totally shake the standard button layouts plastered everywhere on the controllers we have had for years. Either a trackpad or a surface that detect inputs across the controller. Those Free Form Displays Nintendo is interested in... it would be a waste for Nintendo not to use them in this device.
Funny enough some time ago, i did a very crude mock up of a "modern" take on the SNES dogbone that is detachable:
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=205211923
Aesthetics are not the point. The mock ups are about functionality and explaining the concept. i would say is the other way around of what you wrote above, the mock ups have been questionable because all of them focus on looks first instead of functionality.
MissCauthon
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Hehe yes
i guess they can mould it to their liking which would enable 2 controllers to attach to it. and DOCK like to the system like in the video with the recliner.It's definitely a big gamble. Some have speculated that the ability to turn this into a portable local MP machine with the detachable controllers will be one of the big selling points, but will casuals prefer that to everyone playing on their own smartphones?
malboroking
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How is this targeting anyone that the 3ds wasn't targeting? This is not going to make people put their cell phones down and buy an NX.
Pretty grim take on this situation. I'm not saying I agree or disagree. You may be right.
For starters, this will be much cheaper. That $250 launch price slowed down a lot of the 3DS' momentum early on.
do we know for sure that the detachable parts of the NX have to be used as standalone controllers?
because that just sounds terrible and unnecessary. who would ever want to play a game with those little shits?
left clip on should be L1, L2, a circle pad and d pad, and minus button.
right clip should be R2, L2, abxy, a second circle pad and plus button.
home button is on the core component of the nx
Nintendo gets great third party support for their handhelds and it's their biggest install bases as well. Having a portable device that you can also play on your TV is the best possible option for them. They're not a company that compete in power (and wouldn't want to due to the costs of operating at that level.)
Handheld is their market in its entirety essentially plus they'll get a lot of folks that want to play Nintendo games but not a handheld.
Despite being expected, I think it's the best possible move for them as long as they can keep costs low and battery life reasonable.
People have no issue playing with shitty touchscreen controls, even the detachable parts would be an upgrade.
I really think holding a smart phone in vertical position and tapping with one hand or horizontal position and tapping with two hands is more comfortable than holding what looks to be a 4 button controller designed for use by Toy Story characters.
ProtomanNeo
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At least not in the way it has been presented to us by the Eurogamer rumor, from my viewpoint of course. The device needs something eye catching for it's form factor. See for example the oval shaped patent.
i say this because theres tech available that could totally shake the standard button layouts plastered everywhere on the controllers we have had for years. Either a trackpad or a surface that detect inputs across the controller. Those Free Form Displays Nintendo is interested in... it would be a waste for Nintendo not to use them in this device.
Funny enough some time ago, i did a very crude mock up of a "modern" take on the SNES dogbone that is detachable:
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=205211923
Aesthetics are not the point. The mock ups are about functionality and explaining the concept. i would say is the other way around of what you wrote above, the mock ups have been questionable because all of them focus on looks first instead of functionality.
Really interesting idea!
malboroking
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I would be surprised if it was significantly cheaper judging by the specs being leaked here. I'm betting it will be 199-249, Nintendo doesn't like to lose money on hardware.
Not to mention even it was 149, you're still have to convince people that they need another piece of portable hardware in addition to their phone. There's certainly a market there (I'm definitely going to buy one), but I really don't think it's a real growth area. I would really be surprised if it sells that much more than the 3DS. We shall see if they have anything else interesting hiding up their sleeve when they finally reveal it.
At least not in the way it has been presented to us by the Eurogamer rumor, from my viewpoint of course. The device needs something eye catching for it's form factor. See for example the oval shaped patent.
i say this because theres tech available that could totally shake the standard button layouts plastered everywhere on the controllers we have had for years. Either a trackpad or a surface that detect inputs across the controller. Those Free Form Displays Nintendo is interested in... it would be a waste for Nintendo not to use them in this device.
Funny enough some time ago, i did a very crude mock up of a "modern" take on the SNES dogbone that is detachable:
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=205211923
Aesthetics are not the point. The mock ups are about functionality and explaining the concept. i would say is the other way around of what you wrote above, the mock ups have been questionable because all of them focus on looks first instead of functionality.
If the controls are detachable, those mockups can't.
family_guy
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Too far apart you say?
I think it looks fine. It might take the thumbs a few seconds to move to the other ends. Although what is the struggle? Try reaching for the triangle on the ds4. Takes a good amount of time to press when working that right analog.
Not my point and that Wii remote is focused around you hitting that A button and back trigger and not much else unless you turn it sideways. In the design I quoted and pretty much most of the mockups they are putting the dpad and buttons way at the bottom, so if you are using these primarily then you're putting your thumbs at a horrible angle. The only way to get some relief would be to shift the device forward in your palms so your thumbs can be at a more natural position, but if you shift it forward you're also losing some of your ability to stabilize the device since you'll no longer have a grip where the entire device is resting in your palms. The Wii U controller layout was weird but at least they had the sense to not put the face buttons directly below the analog stick. They are offset for a reason. The thumb can naturally move to that position with little discomfort.
Badlucktroll
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So i can put the "brain" into the "dock" to play on my TV?
You forget that this isn't just another Nintendo handheld, but the place to play ALL Nintendo games. It shouldn't be measured by handheld trends alone.
Yeah the dock will be the power booster overclocker thing as well I think
Its kind of like, when a laptop is on battery and its performing alright, but when a laptop is plugged in it performs better
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