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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept

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Hum.

I suspect the reveal is likely planned for early September, it gels perfectly with the then following TGS, especially as I am rather confident in believing that Nintendo and non-insane/ostrich Japanese developers are going to want to put the best possible foot forward for the handheld coming to market in Japan...

... I suspect most just don't want to see their market burn to cinders any further as the 3DS is going to retire and nothing has nor will take its place from the current offerings and consoles have failed to gain traction despite the plethora of software sacrifices offered to the gods. Retailers would also probably push for this.
 
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Ladekabel said:
I don't trust Eurogamer with this because I'm still sad that we didn't get Mother 3 VC in April like on of their sources told them.
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Wasn't their source for that Emily Rogers? They ran that story after she reported. She and one of the guys at Eurogamer seem like they are super close.
 
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Mihael Mello Keehl said:
Sorry guys to change conversation but has there ever been confirmation or some point in time we have found out who, eurogamer, ign sites sources were? Or do we just always listen to them because thats how its always been?
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We don't know who provides the information, but Eurogamer has been rock-solid in the past; if they're this confident in their information, then I trust them implicitly.
 
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Mihael Mello Keehl said:
Sorry guys to change conversation but has there ever been confirmation or some point in time we have found out who, eurogamer, ign sites sources were? Or do we just always listen to them because thats how its always been?
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It doesn't help that a lot of this info goes against what Nintendo has said in the past.

"What we mean by integrating platforms is not integrating handhelds devices and home consoles to make only one machine."

“I can assure you we’re not building the next version of Wii or Wii U. It’s something unique and different.”

"It’s something very new. The hardware, the software lineup, all of it is something I’d like to play for the first time myself."

"We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console."

"Normally we would've shown the #NX at #E3, but we didn't. We're worried about imitators if we release info too early."

The NX is neither the successor to the Wii U nor to the 3DS. It's a new way of playing games, which I think will have a larger impact than the Wii U, but I don't feel it's a pure replacement for the Wii U."
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Sorry, a handheld and console hybrid is not a new way to play or a surprise. It's expected and not something that Microsoft or Sony would ever think of copying. I can already play my PS4 and Xbox One on my PC. Besides, Sega has already done this with the Nomad. So Nintendo is a little late.
 
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gamerMan said:
It doesn't help that a lot of this info goes against what Nintendo has said in the past.



Sorry, a handheld and console hybrid is not a new way to play or a surprise. It's expected and not something that Microsoft or Sony would ever think of copying. I can already play my PS4 and Xbox One on my PC. Besides, Sega has already done this with the Nomad. So Nintendo is a little late.
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None of this contradicts what Nintendo has said.
 
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gamerMan said:
Sorry, a handheld and console hybrid is not a new way to play or a surprise. It's expected and not something that Microsoft or Sony would ever think of copying. I can already play my PS4 and Xbox One on my PC. Besides, Sega has already done this with the Nomad. So Nintendo is a little late.
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Your mistake is in assuming that Nintendo's talking about Sony or Microsoft in that quote.

Also, what's being proposed here is a completely different proposition to what Sony and Microsoft are offering in the space.
 
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gamerMan said:
Besides, Sega has already done this with the Nomad. So Nintendo is a little late.
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The Nomad was a handheld that played the cartridges of a SEGA Genesis. It didn't act as a console at all. Not sure how that equates to the kind of hybrid people are suggesting here.
 
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I hope Eurogamer is right. Only one console with the entirety of the Nintendo workforce behind it? Potential for the best Nintendo console ever.
 
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Aostia

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So...
From what we have gathered can we assume that the NX will be some sort of reversed gamepad that could offer wiiu graphics levels in general, with lower resolution on the portable device but still better than the gamepad itself, with no limit to the streaming range for the off tv and and possibly better framerate and resolution when docked and plugged on the tv even compared to the wiiu?

If so, imagining to merge the home and portable line ups into one, with those graphics outputs and those interface possibilites it sounds pretty interesting.

I wonder if there will also be gimmicks like the free form display, the dettachable controllers that could become some sort of new wiimote, the scrollable shoulder buttons and so on.

Price and marketing will surely be crucial for such a new and different concept, but I think that also the launch and launch window line up will be as crucial
 
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Spyder_Monkey said:
How do these vague, highly subjective, marketing terms disprove what Eurogamer reported?
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they said to step away from wiiu and 3ds, but the rumor isn't, it's looks more like a step further into the wiiu idea.

"New experience to play" looking at Nintendo his past is mostly mean something new. Playing on a handheld isn't new, even playing on TV isn't new. Just because you can play it on handheld and TV doesn't make it a new game experience you want to try.
When Nintendo talks about a new experience, they always mean a new way to play games.

Also this idea isn't new, it already exist and most phones could be connected on TV to play games. Why would nintendo keep that a secret so otherwise SONY or MS could copy it.


It doesn't mean Eurogamer is false, but it's not the whole story. The big thing isn't revealed yet. I wonder why
 
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Peterc said:
they said to step away from wiiu and 3ds, but the rumor isn't, it's looks more like a step further into the wiiu idea.

"New experience to play" looking at Nintendo his past is mostly mean something new. Playing on a handheld isn't new, even playing on TV isn't new. Just because you can play it on handheld and TV doesn't make it a new game experience you want to try.
When Nintendo talks about a new experience, they always mean a new way to play games.

Also this idea isn't new, it already exist and most phones could be connected on TV to play games. Why would nintendo keep that a secret so otherwise SONY or MS could copy it.


It doesn't mean Eurogamer is false, but it's not the whole story. The big thing isn't revealed yet. I wonder why
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It's hardly unheard of for companies to exaggerate the uniqueness of their own products.
 
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I'm afraid that TV screen output resolution will be a deal breaker for me, no way I will play a lower than 720p blowed up, even if it has nicer graphics than Wii U.
Resolutions lower than 720p on handheld are perfectly acceptable, but no in a TV screen.
 
Kyle8497

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I feel like they should have just made a regular, home console.

How many people are actually able to play games on the go, and want to lug this around with them? Who's going to play this while they're out with the friends, or going to the grocery store? That's the main focus, apparently: portability.

Then the majority of people who play games, those who play at home, have to deal with low-power hardware when compared to modern consoles, and will gain little third-party support yet again.

Then what about the 3DS? Is that just over with, now?

Sigh.
 
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Kyle8497 said:
I feel like they should have just made a regular, home console.

How many people are actually able to play games on the go, and want to lug this around with them? Who's going to play this while they're out with the friends, or going to the grocery store? That's the main focus, apparently: portability.

Then the majority of people who play games, those who play at home, have to deal with low-power hardware when compared to modern consoles, and will gain little third-party support yet again.

Then what about the 3DS? Is that just over with, now?

Sigh.
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Well yeah, it's five years old and showing its age. It's time to be replaced.

Also it's important to keep in mind that Nintendo's handhelds have always been more popular than their home consoles. EDIT: Also I'd question the assertion that the majority of people who play games play at home but that might be semantics about whether or not you include mobile in that.
 
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Kyle8497 said:
I feel like they should have just made a regular, home console.

How many people are actually able to play games on the go, and want to lug this around with them? Who's going to play this while they're out with the friends, or going to the grocery store? That's the main focus, apparently: portability.

Then the majority of people who play games, those who play at home, have to deal with low-power hardware when compared to modern consoles, and will gain little third-party support yet again.

Then what about the 3DS? Is that just over with, now?

Sigh.
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I am not sure you can wisely lament the loss of six year old hardware. Especially when you are fine lamenting their (newer) console hardware.

You're making a hell of a lot of assumptions on how people play. AKA, yourself only.
 
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Jinketsu said:
The Nomad was a handheld that played the cartridges of a SEGA Genesis. It didn't act as a console at all. Not sure how that equates to the kind of hybrid people are suggesting here.
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You could hook a Nomad to a TV and play it on the big screen because it had a video out. You could also connect a second controller to it to play games on the big screen. Heck you can hook a iphone to a TV with an AV cable. What's the big deal? There isn't anything new here.
 
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Peterc

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But let's not forget:

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gamerMan said:
You could hook a nomad to a TV because it had a video out. You could also connect a second controller to it to play games on the big screen. Heck you can hook a iphone to a TV with an AV cable. What's the big deal? There isn't anything new here.
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Leaving aside the patents such as: Free Form Displays, SCD, Shoulder Weels, etc that could further diferentiate the device, in case they don't become a reality and just going strictly by the content of the Eurogamer article. What would be different from the Nomad you ask?

  • With the Nomad at that time Sega had the Game Gear, which was their handheld platform and the Geneis the console one. The Nomad played Genesis games only. So to fully acces Sega's library you need at least 2 (3 maybe?) systems.
  • This Nintendo system would play all of Nintendo's games. That is their entire software umbrella under one platform. That works both as an stationary and mobile device.
  • Detachable controllers. The detachable controllers have the potential to change the way you interact with games in terms of interface. In ways that a Handheld alone couldn't do, see Free Degrees of Freedom Wii Remote controllers.
  • Expanding the above. We are talking of one platform that has the ability to accomodate a variety of games built around different interfaces. Dual Analog type games, Motion Controlled games and Touch Screen type of mobile games.
  • This concentration of input methods (Touch Screen, Wii Remote Motion controls, Analog Sticks & Buttons) is of great significance for the Virtual Console. It basically facilitates the porting and emulation off all Nintendo games across generations.

Hopefully this makes it clear to you since you have expressed the same comment several times already and the previous explanations failed to satisy you.
 
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TunaLover said:
I'm afraid that TV screen output resolution will be a deal breaker for me, no way I will play a lower than 720p blowed up, even if it has nicer graphics than Wii U.
Resolutions lower than 720p on handheld are perfectly acceptable, but no in a TV screen.
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It'll display in at least 720p on the TV screen. There's seriously no reason to believe otherwise. Matt already told us it's stronger than Wii U and that achieves 720p consistently.
 
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What I like about this is that means that all of Nintendo's dev teams will only have to work on one console.

Monolith
Intelligent Systems
Retro
EPD
EPD Tokyo
Game Freak
Hal

Plus a bunch more that I'm missing just constantly churning out games.

Potential best library ever.
 
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mrmickfran said:
What I like about this is that means that all of Nintendo's dev teams will only have to work on one console.

Monolith
Intelligent Systems
Retro
EPD
EPD Tokyo
Game Freak
Hal

Plus a bunch more that I'm missing just constantly churning out games.

Potential best library ever.
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True,you must be crazy not to buy it.
 
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KingSnake said:
Wait. Wasn't he stating that all this X86 madness was all his speculation based on public info available? Suddenly he had sources for this in the past 6 months?

Give me a break!

The biggest issue about lies is that you need to remember the stories you invented.
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I Believe that was 10k
 
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mrmickfran said:
What I like about this is that means that all of Nintendo's dev teams will only have to work on one console.

Monolith
Intelligent Systems
Retro
EPD
EPD Tokyo
Game Freak
Hal

Plus a bunch more that I'm missing just constantly churning out games.

Potential best library ever.
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I mentioned this myself in another NX thread. Most people are on about the power of this thing. But one of the most best things is that NCL will finally have their efforts concentrated on just one piece of hardware. Their software schedule should be a lot better now.
 
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Joegrine_TT said:
I Believe that was 10k
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https://twitter.com/SMetaldave64/status/758659833272807424
https://twitter.com/SMetaldave64/status/758685188427620352

@SMetaldave64
My video is based on facts not "sources" meaning I call fake to the EG article, isn't the first time for them.

@CEOofGreatness
@SMetaldave64 Fair, but I thought you told Emily yesterday you did have sources when she asked you. Or did I misinterpret that?

@SMetaldave64
@CEOofGreatness No, did you watch my video? This is researched information that is public.

@CEOofGreatness
@SMetaldave64 I watch ALL your videos. I'm not talking about the video though. I'm talking about the Tweet to Emily. I'll go find it

@SMetaldave64 Jul 28
@CEOofGreatness Oh, no you misunderstood, no sources just research and speculation.
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mrmickfran said:
What I like about this is that means that all of Nintendo's dev teams will only have to work on one console.

Monolith
Intelligent Systems
Retro
EPD
EPD Tokyo
Game Freak
Hal

Plus a bunch more that I'm missing just constantly churning out games.

Potential best library ever.
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any ideas how long after reveal it would be for preorders to go live?

are hardware preorders something N traditionally does?
 
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mrmickfran said:
What I like about this is that means that all of Nintendo's dev teams will only have to work on one console.

Monolith
Intelligent Systems
Retro
EPD
EPD Tokyo
Game Freak
Hal

Plus a bunch more that I'm missing just constantly churning out games.

Potential best library ever.
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Plus all the 3rd larty devs that were split on two consoles (Square, Capcom, Ubisoft etc.) can release all those games on a single platform.
Like, immagine Monolith's next game, but also Bravely Third with NX graphics, DQXI, Pokèmon and that new Monster Hunter spin-off all in one, portable console...
That's JRPG reinassance 2.0
 
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NateDrake said:
What does that even mean? "Oh, AMD has public statements about SoC wins, so NX must be one. X86 because reasons and speculation."
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Didn't GAF already deduce that the AMD wins were the Neo, Scorpio, and XB1 S?
 
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Philippo said:
Plus all the 3rd larty devs that were split on two consoles (Square, Capcom, Ubisoft etc.) can release all those games on a single platform.
Like, immagine Monolith's next game, but also Bravely Third with NX graphics, DQXI, Pokèmon and that new Monster Hunter spin-off all in one, portable console...
That's JRPG reinassance 2.0
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i skipped the 3ds, glad to have everything reunited
 
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Peterc

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KingSnake said:
An announcement about the reveal date should happen in the near future, yes. If it's a public event, at least.
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Good answer, so we can assume that if we don't hear anything in august, maybe EG was wrong about sept. reveal?

Not sure how Nintendo did it in the past, when it wasn't revealed at E3 or spaceworld
 
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