Exterminieren
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Bless 'im.
He's handled the one bit of insider information he ever got incredibly badly.
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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Bless 'im.
He's handled the one bit of insider information he ever got incredibly badly.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I just don't get it. I mean, the guy struck gold with the one leak he had. Now he seems to have gone off the deep end. I'm puzzled. It makes zero sense to me.
I mean, yeah, if he's right here he's going to have a field day. I just think with how many sources are confirming the Eurogamer leak, there's like a 0.01% chance he's right.
Ive dream about something like that ever since my hands were tortured by the 3ds for the first time. I loved my gameboy games on the tv.. *sighs*
One of the three wins is ARM-based, and at least one is for a "beyond gaming" device. One S probably isn't a new win, and GAF is probably wrong about it being Polaris-based.
Father_Brain
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10K at least claims to have three specific sources, though he hasn't exactly kept his story straight beyond that (he earlier tweeted that said sources knew nothing about the hybrid that Eurogamer et al. were reporting on; now he claims to know that they're reporting on old prototype dev kits).
You're assuming she knew what it was before.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
What is 10k saying now in comparison to the Eurogamer leak?
Schnozberry
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Attention is a powerful drug for some people.
Closer to Xbone than PS4, which weaker than Xbone technically counts as. She even tweeted this:
She was saying that it's weaker than Xbone from day one.
He's absolutely positive that it's fake and that his own sources are the only legit ones in the entire world.
It's not going to end well for him.
malboroking
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All current disc based systems except for the WiiU install their game on the HDD. The cartridges won't load any faster than that.
I wouldn't take her word as a gospel, she was wrong about Mother 3, and that was recent :/
I think the idea is that in low wattage handheld mode the game would display at (for example) a native 540p, but when plugged into console mode it'd render at native 1080p. Nintendo has a recent patent on games detecting different hardware configs and performing accordingly.
Wait until 2016 is over before you cast the Mother 3 stone.
Reading more about Denver cores: not a fan of them. They're not actually ARM cores and have noted problems. Hopefully all that stuff Eurogamer mentioned about them ends up being conjecture.
Well it looked like she already knew allot about it.
I'm not saying she is wrong, but just wonder how you can only get a small part of the story and not the complete story from your inside sources.
It sounds strange if a inside source would say "Hey, it would be more close to xbox1, but i'm not sure what this thing can do or look like, oh it would also have a few wiiu ports and a new IP".
September
Depends on the type of cartridge. Most people claiming HDDs are faster are basing that off comparisons with things like sd cards rather than dedicated gaming rom.
Aside from obvious first party exclusivity, I wonder how many of the third parties (like Capcom or Square Enix i.e. Japanese third party) will release their games as sole exclusives to the NX. This is an era where releasing a game as an exclusive to one console without funding by the console manufacturer is basically a death sentence thanks to higher budgets, and I imagine the NX will increase the budget needed to make games pretty damn highly thanks to its rather beefy specs compared to its predecessor (keep in mind the damn thing's supposedly beefy enough to run a home console Zelda game on it). I imagine even series like Bravely Default might find themselves releasing on other consoles/PC (since it seems like every other Japanese dev is jumping on PC) unless Nintendo pays them to stay exclusive, since said projects will want to make their money back. I imagine the more low budget clearly handheld centric efforts will stay as handheld exclusive, but I imagine the more medium to high budget projects (basically, games that can work fairly well as both a handheld or home console game, I'll include things like JRPGs here) to find themselves released elsewhere, either at the same time or ported afterwards (unless Nintendo pays them to stay exclusive or the series is practically joined at the hip with Nintendo like Monster Hunter).
So what I'm saying is, is that I bet everyone who likes Japanese games will be a winner thanks to the NX existing, since there'll likely be lots of Japanese support for the NX, and quite a bit of that support may also release their games on other consoles without having to deal with the stigma of "Ew, handheld games on a home console" (since well, the NX itself is also technically a home console as well, and I've seen people comment on things like this way too much in regards to games releasing on both the Vita and the PS4) so those who like Japanese games but don't own a Nintendo console might also benefit as well (probably not as much as actually owning the thing though).
So what I'm saying is, is that I bet everyone who likes Japanese games will be a winner thanks to the NX existing, since there'll likely be lots of Japanese support for the NX, and quite a bit of that support may also release their games on other consoles without having to deal with the stigma of "Ew, handheld games on a home console" (since well, the NX itself is also technically a home console as well, and I've seen people comment on things like this way too much in regards to games releasing on both the Vita and the PS4) so those who like Japanese games but don't own a Nintendo console might also benefit as well (probably not as much as actually owning the thing though).
No way they do it like that, they will def announce maybe at least by a week or more before they do the reveal, also the press will get invite early too
Probably... none of them? Why would anyone do this?
Pretty sure that he's talking about handheld games.
I'm kind of talking about all of them actually. A lot of games were released as exclusives for the 3DS for example by third party Japanese developers like Capcom or Square Enix, but I don't know if that'll really fly anymore, since one of the reasons games could afford to be exclusive to the 3DS is because of its cheaper development costs (and the NX is pretty much guaranteed to raise these costs). I'm just saying that I won't be surprised if said third parties are more reluctant to keep series, even ones that were previously handheld only, exclusive. Even more so if what people are saying in regards to porting games to or from the console is true (i.e. it's not too difficult), since there'd basically be no reason to keep things exclusive at that point. I suspect the PS4 and NX will be sharing a lot of games with one another, kind of like how the Vita and PS4 tend to share games with one another these days (what with the NX pretty much replacing the Vita as well).
Basically, what I'm saying is, all consumers who like Japanese games will likely be a winner, regardless of whether or not you're a Nintendo fan or have any desire to own their consoles and we should all sit down and have some nice tea until Nintendo officially announces the thing and everyone goes apeshit again.
Press got invites to the Wii U September event in late August (I think the 21 or so). The Wii U event was held on Thursday, Sept. 13.
Prevolition
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Could you link this patent? I forgot about this or completely missed it.
James Scott
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Maybe not GF, but yeah, I imagine most have at least a project in the works for it.
Monolith finished XCX over a year ago, by the system's launch it'll be around 2 years since that was done so maybe we'll get a trailer by next year's e3.
RETRO's last game was finished by the beginning of 2014, it'll be 3 years by the time the system comes out. They've gone on record saying they only need 3 years so maybe we'll get something next year? At least a reveal trailer.
EAD Tokyo's Mario game should be ready by holiday 2017 based on Miyamoto's comments.
Pikmin might have been put in the back burner, though
A lot of them did on 3DS. Capcom put out a ton of exclusive Monster Hunter games, SE put out KH3D (which is getting a port, but was exclusive until then) and a few other titles
I would think Nintendo would want to do it before the Tokyo Game Show in Sept, that way at the reveal Nintendo can announce their games and key partners, and then at the Tokyo Game show Japanese 3rd party publishers can come out a announce and show off their NX games and maybe even have them playable.
Once its announce Nintendo needs to keep it in the press
MatrixMan.EXE
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It's gotta be before TGS, so I'm gonna go with early September. Reason being, it'll be a huge missed opportunity if they forgo announcing before TGS and then allowing 3rd parties to finally lift the lid on their NX projects.
Edit: Oh jesus christ, beaten within milliseconds.
Joegrine_TT
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If that Eurogamer info is fake, i dont think GAF will trust anymore sources LOL
It's a huge misconception to say 3DS games were made because it was cheap to develop. 3DS games were made because it absolutely dominated(still does) the non-smartphone market in Japan. The "PS ecosystem" came about because PS4 hasn't been as strong as hoped in Japan and Vita is dead in the west.
There will be more overlap than in the past but there's still going to be exclusives for each platform/ecosystem.
There will be more overlap than in the past but there's still going to be exclusives for each platform/ecosystem.
September
Maybe around Gamescom 2016
JHakjasgdiuasyd I can't wait any longer
I've been waiting since January 1st lmao.I guess I should say Wake me up when September ends then!
I thought it was part of the SCD patent but now I can't find it? :/
DESTROYA
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Multiple sources have agreed that Eurogamer is based on truth about the NX.
I don't think anyone said the sole reason 3DS games were made was because it was cheap to develop for. It was one reason of several, another of which was what you said, it dominated the market over there. With that said, games will likely be a lot more expensive to develop, and how much the NX will dominate in today's market is a total crapshoot until we start seeing sales numbers. There will definitely be more overlap though, alongside the typical exclusives as you say.
James Scott
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If Unseen64 is to be believed, they didn't start on their project until a few months later after a couple of pitches. In either case, let's assume it'll be 3 years in development by the end of 2017
Dark Cloud
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It would be hilarious if what 10k has been saying turns out true in the end.
Spieler Eins
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More like they wanted to cover up that WiiU had yet another year (2014) in which the first two quarters literally had no big games coming out. Anyway, it certainly was a marketing strategic delay.
Man...
The idea that all of Nintendo's games will be on one console is mind-boggling to me. Just imagine all the flagship titles they're known for being able to be played on screen and also on the go, titles such as Mario, Zelda, Pokemon's handheld versions just everything on one console. Wow. As someone who's always hated having to pick one Nintendo platform (I usually had handheld and console but still) this is great. I don't have to say "ok I'll get this handheld now and get the console later", I can say "ok I'll just get this" and be good with it. They can also come out with a higher rate of releases too.
This is dope.
The idea that all of Nintendo's games will be on one console is mind-boggling to me. Just imagine all the flagship titles they're known for being able to be played on screen and also on the go, titles such as Mario, Zelda, Pokemon's handheld versions just everything on one console. Wow. As someone who's always hated having to pick one Nintendo platform (I usually had handheld and console but still) this is great. I don't have to say "ok I'll get this handheld now and get the console later", I can say "ok I'll just get this" and be good with it. They can also come out with a higher rate of releases too.
This is dope.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yep, this was the reason.
Well I guess so but if you're talking strictly about dedicated devices then you'd be a fool to bet against the successor to the 3DS which is also going to have all of Nintendo's software(no.1 publisher year in, year out). It could also drop 50% from 3DS and still be a clear market leader.
Third parties should be confident in it
, they're plenty confident in PS4 and that's still doing okay at best.
and less energy consumed.
Dark Cloud
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I could see this happening. Tbh everybody here who's speculating is thinking to basic I guess is the word I would use. I think Nintendo is doing something none of us are expecting because that's who Nintendo is and if they do some free form display mixed with unique controllers with scrollable shoulder buttons would make sense because it's Nintendo lol. I'm actually hoping for the free form display, but my only worry is how cheap can they get it for?
Yes. The Wii U was woefully underpowered 4 years ago.
Most estimates have it running with 2-3x more power then the Wii U as a portable
Milly Osworth
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If that really happens it will be a culture shock for 3DS owners. Going from puke ugly graphics and a resolution of 12 pixels to 2x wii u.
Wasn't it with the Wii, 3DS and Wii U that we didn't see actual patents for what the systems did until after they released the systems? Don't Nintendo file a crap ton of patents whose concepts never come to light? If that's right, wouldn't it be safe to assume that NONE of the patents we've seen so far will be implemented into the NX?
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