There's nothing stopping random encounters it just seems like you can't organize encounters which was obvious for a while now.
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A polite discourse amongst friends on the importance of MP-elements in No Man's Sky
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There's nothing stopping random encounters it just seems like you can't organize encounters which was obvious for a while now.
TheChewyWaffles
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He's very explicit about being able to meet your friends. If it's nothing more than random chance then I'd say that assertion is total bullshit.
Because it's all offline and it's pause-able I'm expecting the ability to see other players to be more like a Souls game, where it downloads copies of movement paths and then plays a player-character running around as they actually did at some point in the past.
It doesn't make sense based on everything we know about the game for there be any kind of ability to interact with other players, furthermore an asynchronous player interaction like the one I described still fits with everything Sean has talked about.
Also, even if it's just not in there at all, it's not a big deal. It was never going to be a big part of the game.
The problem is really that Sean has this super vague way of speaking about things and it sets peoples expectations incorrectly. You can tell he's been trying to rectify this recently. You can find quotes of him saying seemingly conflicting things, you will be able to see other players, you won't be able to play multiplayer, etc, and it's kind of a disaster in that regard. I think he's just doing his best to preserve the 'mystery' of his game, but I don't know if it's worth it at this point. He should just be transparent about the mechanics of it, if this thread is any evidence of what people do when they feel like they're being lied to.
It doesn't make sense based on everything we know about the game for there be any kind of ability to interact with other players, furthermore an asynchronous player interaction like the one I described still fits with everything Sean has talked about.
Also, even if it's just not in there at all, it's not a big deal. It was never going to be a big part of the game.
The problem is really that Sean has this super vague way of speaking about things and it sets peoples expectations incorrectly. You can tell he's been trying to rectify this recently. You can find quotes of him saying seemingly conflicting things, you will be able to see other players, you won't be able to play multiplayer, etc, and it's kind of a disaster in that regard. I think he's just doing his best to preserve the 'mystery' of his game, but I don't know if it's worth it at this point. He should just be transparent about the mechanics of it, if this thread is any evidence of what people do when they feel like they're being lied to.
GHG
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You didn't even read the opening post did you?
wanderingprostheyltite
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Yup, and people are deluding themselves thinking HG have the resources to pull that off/maintain it.
UncleSporky
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Someone needs to just sniff the packets and decrypt them and see what kind of data goes to the server.
Maybe it only sends your location data once every 10 seconds just as a way to make sure you are where you say you are when you name a planet/animal. And that would disprove the idea that you'd be able to do anything in real-time, move and they see you move etc.
Maybe it only sends your location data once every 10 seconds just as a way to make sure you are where you say you are when you name a planet/animal. And that would disprove the idea that you'd be able to do anything in real-time, move and they see you move etc.
old manatee
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If only they had been working with a decent marketing budget they could have cleared up some of these misconceptions.
your planet names do in fact matter, other people can see them and visit them
That people meet by chance is so unlikely that the last thing they should do is to sabotage it.
I mean, when by chance, two people play at the same time, in the same star system, on the same planet, at the same spot they still might not see each other because of some stupid random factor in the background? Sorry, but this torpedoes the whole thing for me.
Except he's not. Like Journey it's possible to encounter your friends, but the odds of that are "expected to be an incredibly rare event".
Handyandy58
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My money is on the idea that there is a master universe, but players are grouped into instances/servers like traditional MMOs. This is why one player could see that the the planet he was on was named by another real player, since the planets' names all sync with a master universe. However, the two players just didn't happen to be in the same server. Would be nice to get some clarification from the developer however.
Seemed pretty clear to me by all the wording that the idea was if they made the universe big enough, they can spin all this language about how rare it would be to cross paths when the point is that they'd like people to interact with the universe, but not directly with each other. Otherwise, it fundamentally changes the game from what they envision it, as a game of loneliness and exploration.
It's not a multiplayer game but as a social experiment, it would be interesting to see how things progress if people could meet other players. Probably hacking, griefing, and all the shitty online stuff ruining it eventually though.
It's not a multiplayer game but as a social experiment, it would be interesting to see how things progress if people could meet other players. Probably hacking, griefing, and all the shitty online stuff ruining it eventually though.
GankzyMcfly
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Then why did the dev say yes when asked "can you play with your friends"
Vincent Grayson
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He's even specifically said in the past that if you and your friend were in the same spot, you still wouldn't necessarily see them because you might not be in the same "lobby".
Mad Season
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Sean is vague and cryptic. They need a pr firm
TheChewyWaffles
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I think you need to watch the video I keep referring to and had suggested you watch in my first reply to you.
It says that on the Steam and AFAIK the GOG page.
KratosEnergyDrink
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Do you really think a developer would waste money and resources on very rare random encounters that would be absolutely meaningless?
Such encounters sound interesting, this is the marketing reason they have been airy about the possibility.
Iva Demilcol
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Preorder cancelled.
I wasn't going to buy it anyways
wanderingprostheyltite
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Source?
Deadpool_X
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I asked this exact same question a few weeks ago on here as a hypothetical and was killed for saying it. I was told how bad a person I am for even suggesting that they may not be able to pull off such an ambitious, grandiose concept on such a small team...
I think you need to go back and re-watch and re-read what he's been saying at all. Example:
As the weeks and months go by and people upgrade their ships with some crazy mods to travel faster, and start to map out different systems. you'd think large meetups would be inevitable.
TheChewyWaffles
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Sho_Nuff82
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With the implication that this was more due to distance than instance.
Distance was never going to be an indefinite problem for a shared community, so he should have just be straightforward about the instancing. If there are only a few hundred players in each instance, for example, the chances of you randomly bumping into someone are indeed infinitesimally small. Even with that limitation though, players will still attempt to brute force encounters, and you will see more and more evidence of this in the coming days, rather than the months or years assumed by the dev.
So...they're just saying what people want to hear in those other interviews? Can we get a list in the OP of Sean's "official" statements and what's just pandering?
Vincent Grayson
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NoFaceNico
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^ that's not anything close to what you claim he said, you have selective [convenient?] memory.
I agree. Even hearing the chances of finding someone were remote, I was still looking forward to it and the internet being the internet, I was expecting people to make meetup spots and planets.
I agree. Even hearing the chances of finding someone were remote, I was still looking forward to it and the internet being the internet, I was expecting people to make meetup spots and planets.
KratosEnergyDrink
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It doesn't get any clearer than this.
At least in this gif his body language seems very "I lie and I know it"
It's amazing how people allow themselves to get blinded by the hype machine. Fact is Sean Murray has been cagey at best and deceitful at worst with the realities of multiplayer interaction in this game. Personally, any developer that behaves in this way deserves to be taken to task. We shouldn't allow for this.
FlammableAce
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People still trying to defend this are ridiculous..
"they never specifically said it had multiplayer"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A
"they never specifically said it had multiplayer"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A
wanderingprostheyltite
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Thanks for that. Figured as much and can't for the life of me understand why people thought they would have the infrastructure for an actually persistent mmo-lite in that sense. People probably think they're using the full force of Sony's server farms too xD
How can you encounter people randomly if two people in the same place can't encounter each other?
Banjo-Kazooie
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Eat the L...lol oh geez. Take a deep breathe
It's on PSN and Steam as single player. PS+ is not required because it's a single player game.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1252422&page=1
AzureSkies
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I think that's a point many are missing.
I could drive to a spot in Need for Speed 2015 for example, it doesn't mean that anyone playing Need for Speed could see me. Only people in my game world.
Yet people expect hundreds of thousands of people to just be online at the same time and able to see each other.
Even mmo's don't work like that, let alone an indie game made by 12 people.
Chances are there is no multiplayer at all, but the fact is even if there was then players would still be separated by "lobbies". So two random people on reddit not seeing each other isn't evidence enough, as even if there was online components to the game, it would be possible that those two players weren't in the same session.
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