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[locke_21183]

They've never said you would be able to explore the universe with friends. Anyone buying the game with that in mind would have been disappointed either way. We don't yet know if what they DID say is misinformation.

Even by the 'you will in all likelihood never ever meet another person as the game is so large, but it feasibly *could* happen' quote being entirely accurate, you'd be a bit misguided buying the game hoping to be able to meet a friend.

 

[UncleSporky]

They've never said you would be able to explore the universe with friends.

I'm almost worried to post that gif again, I haven't seen it in a few pages and wonder if it was banned for overuse or something.

You've seen it, right? The one where a guy asks Sean point blank if you can play with your friends, and he says yes?

 

[Venfayth]

"Can you play with your friends?" - "Yes"

"Only other players can see what you look like."

That doesn't translate to: If you're standing in the same spot as your friend will you be able to see them and play with them and interact with them?

 

[Bustanen]

I'm sure this was posted 20 pages ago but I find it hilarious in perspective:

Seems to me that they didn't get the MP working in time. Maybe it will be added later?

It's weird cause they changed the ratings backwards a few months ago:
https://m.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4la1fe/pegi_rating_changed_12/

 

[ISee]

Wouldn't I/O game data be encrypted to prevent hacking?

I doubt this guy's claim is true.

He just checked if data is being send/received while flying or running around. That's not very hard to do.

 

[Shari]

Wouldn't I/O game data be encrypted to prevent hacking?

I doubt this guy's claim is true.

Encripted yes, visible also with packet sniffing.

 

[Savantcore]

Another tweet
He also tweeted they were not expecting this many people on the first day.

No, he said that online features aren't working because there's too many people.

"online features...Easter Eggs...cool moments...We hope to see those happening but too many of you are playing right now."

He isn't refusing to answer anything, he even said this;

"We added a 'scan for other players' in the Galactic Map to try to encourage this happening. We wanted it to happen."

 

[Kinyou]

That doesn't translate to: If you're standing in the same spot as your friend will you be able to see them and play with them and interact with them?

What else is this supposed to mean then?

"Only other players can see what you look like."

In the Colbert video he literally says that you can run into other players and see them

 

[Pop]

The question is: are we able to see other people at all.

That is not clear at the moment. It was talked about in the past, but indications are now towards it not being in the game. Which some people would find disappointing.

And if it is in the game, but only in a certain way, then I think it is a good idea to explain to users how it does actually work.

Why wouldn't a developer explain how a certain feature in their game works? Or if it is there at all?

But was that not the test those two people did?

I wouldn't expect to see another person if they are at different time of day.

 

[Shinjica]

That doesn't translate to: If you're standing in the same spot as your friend will you be able to see them and play with them and interact with them?

This is why, in every page of this thread, people are asking the devs to clarify this situation

 

[THEaaron]

Wouldn't I/O game data be encrypted to prevent hacking?

I doubt this guy's claim is true.

The thing is, what another person stated is, that most of the data is not encrypted. I think the communication via udp in games like CS/UT and other stuff is not encrypted and if you hack the data before sending them out, the game would just encrypt the data you altered before and send them anyway.

But it is possible to encrypt the data. I don't think the sniffer here lied about the data he saw. There is just the possibility, that no data was sent because there was no instance or server available. Everything is and stays speculation at this point.

 

[Bedlam]

You seem to be on a mission to tell everyone that there is no feature with yourself having nothing but speculations. Maybe you should rest a little bit.

You're a sad person

I'm just not okay with a developer intentionally spreading misinformation. That's all guys. No need to worry about me. But thanks for your concern!

That doesn't translate to: If you're standing in the same spot as your friend will you be able to see them and play with them and interact with them?

But that translates to "it's theoretically possible to see another player". Something that Sean for some reason refuses to confirm when he has said as much in the past, however.

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

People need to watch this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A

I hope it is network issues. If not, at best Sean continues to be misleading.

 

[Maddanth]

Ign just published this article

Server Trouble May Have Affected No Man's Sky Player Meeting
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/08...meeting-other-no-mans-sky-players-is-possible

 

[drotahorror]

Just to make one thing clear, if I land on a planet that someone else has named or see creatures that someone else has named, I will see the name that person gave to them right? I won't get to re-name creatures someone else has already discovered or planets right? (you can name planets yea? solar systems?)

 

[Shari]

But was that not the test those two people did?

I wouldn't expect to see another person if they are at different time of day.

If they are in the same place and its a different time of day it means the planet/station and therefore universe is not shared. That is what's called instantiation.

 

[Venfayth]

Don't forget:

It is a testament to how amazing our network coders are that Discoveries are still working at all.

Let me restate for the umpteenth time: I think Sean's messaging has sucked and needs to be more transparent. But I think people jumping to intentional malice or deception are doing so irrationally and should reevaluate.

This is why, in every page of this thread, people are asking the devs to clarify this situation

And I wish they would. But failure to do so is not inherently malicious, which there are people in these recent pages implying they are.

 

[ISee]

Haha 56 pages devoted to this . It's just a game guys if it bothers you that much move on and enjoy another games or go and watch a film .

People on a very huge and popular gaming forum are talking about a game.
A member enters the thread to tell people that they shouldn't talk about the game.
GAF is hilarious sometimes.

 

[clockworkinyou]

Misleading. I'll wait for MP to be added in before buying.... hopefully.

 

[THEaaron]

I'm just not okay with a developer intentionally spreading misinformation. That's all guys. No need to worry about me. But thanks for your concern!

You are intentionally spreading bullshit yourself as long as you don't have confirmation. So you should not play the hero here.

 

[GankzyMcfly]

No, he said that online features aren't working because there's too many people.

"online features...Easter Eggs...cool moments...We hope to see those happening but too many of you are playing right now."

He isn't refusing to answer anything, he even said this;

"We added a 'scan for other players' in the Galactic Map to try to encourage this happening. We wanted it to happen."

So the two player who found each other weren't experiencing issues and you dont actually see other players in game, just their discoveries? Still find the whole situation unlcear

 

[ClosingADoor]

But was that not the test those two people did?

I wouldn't expect to see another person if they are at different time of day.

They tested if it worked. It didn't. So the question is: how does it work, or is it even there at all? We simply don't know at the moment and I think the developers should clear that up for a bit, since some people do expect that feature.

If it is in instances you simply have no control over and it is really random, then they can just say so. But now they are letting the community jump to all kinds of conclusions, which is never a good thing.

 

[HowZatOZ]

Ign just published this article

Server Trouble May Have Affected No Man's Sky Player Meeting
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/08...meeting-other-no-mans-sky-players-is-possible

That is literally just the writer presuming based on Twitter posts, just like the several pages here have. Nothing new.

 

[Justified]

That doesn't translate to: If you're standing in the same spot as your friend will you be able to see them and play with them and interact with them?

Well he also said in the ultra rare chance of meeting, the other player can see what you look like, so.........

 

[FreeQuebec86]

I packet captured my PS4. When the servers are online, no player movement data is sent to servers, either in space or planet side. It simply doesn't transmit where you are, or any world sharing information.

It does transmit your Discovers, and a diary of planets you have visited. I imagine that is for the Easter eggs.

Also, if you press 'OPTIONS' it pauses the entire game world, including AI (watch creatures and ships stop) and *time*. Planets stop moving and time stops passing when in OPTIONS. This is *not* a multiplayer game.

Thx for the info!!!

Now i wish to see a "Slow-down/pause" when you go to your ship/exosuit/gun screen.

Why keep the game "live" if you are in a single player. They can just slow time down like Doom's weapon wheel.

 

[Maddanth]

They tested if it worked. It didn't. So the question is: how does it work, or is it even there at all? We simply don't know at the moment and I think the developers should clear that up for a bit, since some people do expect that feature.

If it is in instances you simply have no control over and it is really random, then they can just say so. But now they are letting the community jump to all kinds of conclusions, which is never a good thing.

this still don't 100% clear it up but.....
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/08...meeting-other-no-mans-sky-players-is-possible

 

[Savantcore]

So the two player who found each other weren't experiencing issues? I mean the found each other in ever aspect apart from actually seeing each other...

What do you mean? Yes, that's exactly what everyone and myself are talking about. They couldn't see each other because of issues affecting the game's online features, yes.

 

[Shari]

Don't forget:

It is a testament to how amazing our network coders are that Discoveries are still working at all.

Let me restate for the umpteenth time: I think Sean's messaging has sucked and needs to be more transparent. But I think people jumping to intentional malice or deception are doing so irrationally and should reevaluate.



And I wish they would. But failure to do so is not inherently malicious, which there are people in these recent pages implying they are.

People are being like that because this is not like a difficult subject to communicate upon, he is being deliverately obtuse that's why people is thinking deception.

This gets solved with a single, clear, well-written sentence and yet here we are.

Considering a GAF member would have been around for a few years I dont know how some of you can be so naive. Well, I do actually.

 

[Bedlam]

Don't forget:

It is a testament to how amazing our network coders are that Discoveries are still working at all.

Let me restate for the umpteenth time: I think Sean's messaging has sucked and needs to be more transparent. But I think people jumping to intentional malice or deception are doing so irrationally and should reevaluate.

And I wish they would. But failure to do so is not inherently malicious, which there are people in these recent pages implying they are.

Typing "players are currently not able to see each other/meet due to network issues" into their twitter really wouldn't take a lot of effort. For some reason, they aren't doing it despite being asked directly.

You are intentionally spreading bullshit yourself as long as you don't have confirmation. So you should not play the hero here.

I hope you are prepared to eat crow.

Spoiler

I am

And again: my biggest criticism is not the potentially dropped feature but their current intentionally obtuse messaging. This is just a fact and has zero to do with whether the feature is in the game or not.

 

[Pop]

How and why do you expect to see someone else at a different time of day? Those two people clearly had no clue what they were doing.

 

[Venfayth]

Well he also said in the ultra rare chance of meeting, the other player can see what you look like, so.........

Could be in the form of a player "ghost" - like in Souls? There are other ways - "easter eggs" to use Sean's term - that you could see other players.

 

[panty]

No matter the conclusion, this has been amazing. How vague and misleading Sean (and devs in general) can be about this.

Server trouble, outright lying, stickers covering boxes, this is so thrilling.

 

[Gravy Boat]

"Can you play with your friends?" - "Yes"

"Only other players can see what you look like."

Can you point out where he said you can play with friends? All I remember seeing him say is that you can come across other players on your travels, but the chances of that happening are miniscule.

Either way, still doesn't mean he lied.

 

[D4Danger]

Ign just published this article

Server Trouble May Have Affected No Man's Sky Player Meeting
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/08...meeting-other-no-mans-sky-players-is-possible

They can get prerelease footage but they can't get a simple yes or no.

 

[Savantcore]

Typing "players are currently not able to see each other/meet due to network issues" into their twitter really wouldn't take a lot of effort. For some reason, they aren't doing it despite being asked directly.

But he has!

"Online features...Easter Eggs...cool moments...We hope to see those happening but too many of you are playing right now."

Or will you not be satisfied unless the words 'sever' and 'issues' are used?

 

[SomTervo]

Wrong. What they said is it's "incredibly rare", "the chances are tiny" and that even if you would meet on the same planet, it's not guaranteed that you meet because a planet itself is also huge.

Not at all. There is one quote specifically where he says it "might" happen.

I'm at work so don't have time to find it, but it's been quoted twice ITT already.

 

[ClosingADoor]

How and why do you expect to see someone else at a different time of day? Those two people clearly had no clear what they were doing.

And what should they have done then? That is the whole question...

Is it random? Can players try to meet up? It is actually even possible? A simple Tweet with a short explanation could fix all the confusion surrounding this issue.

 

[Netherscourge]

He just checked if data is being send/received while flying or running around. That's not very hard to do.

Which streamer did he check?

Because one of them showed "Lost Connection to Online Service" most of the time in the dual-streams I was watching yesterday.

When they were in the NMS menu screen. One of them was constantly disconnected.

 

[LastCupOfSorrow]

The only shame here is that the guy couldn't have been more straightforward. Instead, for years, he led people around with half-truths and bloated answers which side-stepped a solidified answer. This is also called a lack of integrity knowing full well that it would not be possible but giving answers such as "rarely" and "possibly" instead. Falsely misleading people as to not dissuade them from a potential purchase.

It would have been sooooooo much easier to just say "NO" and this never would have even transpired.

 

[panty]

Can you point out where he said you can play with friends? All I remember seeing him say is that you can come across other players on your travels, but the chances of that happening are miniscule.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A&feature=youtu.be&t=45s

 

[Shari]

Server trouble, outright lying, stickers covering boxes, this is so thrilling.

Isn't it? I wasn't even that interested on the game but the drama and the denial are certainly amazing. Sean got that going for me, and for free!

And wait because the best it yet to come, at some point truth is going to be known.

 

[Venfayth]

Typing "players are currently not able to see each other/meet due to network issues" into their twitter really wouldn't take a lot of effort. For some reason, they aren't doing it despite being asked directly.

Typing "I think Sean is lying" into a reply to me wouldn't take a lot of effort. For some reason, you aren't doing it despite being asked directly.

 

[Inviusx]

Ign just published this article

Server Trouble May Have Affected No Man's Sky Player Meeting
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/08...meeting-other-no-mans-sky-players-is-possible

Misleading article. Did Sean right this? I feel like thats in his wheelhouse.

 

[THEaaron]

I hope you are prepared to eat crow.

Spoiler

I am

There is a ton of people that should be prepared for that.

 

[Crantius_Colto]

Can you point out where he said you can play with friends? All I remember seeing him say is that you can come across other players on your travels, but the chances of that happening are miniscule.

Here: https://youtu.be/AE0nuW-mQ8A?t=45
Edit: And of course this thread moves too fast for me.

 

[JCH!]

This thread is hilarious.

People taking Sean Murray's intentionally vague and cryptic tweets/statements as gospel on one side and people seemingly feeling offended and lied to on the other.

Here's my take on this:

- It's Sean Murray's duty to ensure the game sells as many copies as possible. Saying that multiplayer interaction is 'possible but highly unlikely' or 'the servers are borked right now, you guys are pummeling them' sell more copies than saying 'there is no multiplayer'.
- All comments from Hello Games are intentionally vague to keep the illusion of multiplayer being a thing going.
- There is no multiplayer interaction beyond sharing discoveries at the moment.
- 'Proper' multiplayer will be introduced in the future. It was probably meant to be in the game at launch but was pushed back for reasons.

Keep on GAFing, NeoGAF.

 

[Bedlam]

Openly state the reason you're thinking of then. I'm too dumb to figure it out for myself.

Oh well. I overlooked that post.

My answer would be: sales.

 

[King_Moc]

How and why do you expect to see someone else at a different time of day? Those two people clearly had no clue what they were doing.

So...you think it's possible if they sync tines? Why on earth would they program it like that? Just consider the numbers. It would be a mammoth waste of effort. And if one of them pauses after they sync, they have to wait while one of them leaves it paused for a full day in that system. Come on.

 

[diaspora]

IIRC in Destiny players can see what each other look like and can play together but simply going to the same spot at the cosmodrome or something isn't good enough to actually get people to see each other.

 

[ClosingADoor]

This thread is hilarious.

People taking Sean Murray's intentionally vague and cryptic tweets/statements as gospel on one side and people seemingly feeling offended and lied to on the other.

Here's my take on this:

- It's Sean Murray's duty to ensure the game sells as many copies as possible. Saying that multiplayer interaction is 'possible but highly unlikely' or 'the servers are borked right now, you guys are pummeling them' sell more copies than saying 'there is no multiplayer'.
- All comments from Hello Games are intentionally vage to keep the illusion of multiplayer being a thing going.
- There is no multiplayer interaction beyond sharing discoveries at the moment.
- 'Proper' multiplayer will be introduced in the future. It was probably meant to be in the game at launch but was pushed back for reasons.

Keep on GAFing, NeoGAF.

No, it is not his duty to just sell as many copies. If he is being intentionally vague about what a game does, that is misleading and even false advertising since he is the spokesperson for that product.

It's not a major feature or anything - and I'll get it on PC later this week -, but just lying about it is not a thing you can excuse with "he needs to sell more copies."

If that is the case of course. We simply don't know.