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Chinese Foxconn sketch artists returns with the NX

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Devil

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I can translate the original post here (brackets are my comments.)

"NX is a console-handheld hybrid. It is detachable. It contains the console itself, performance module, and the handheld/gamepad.

The console (I think it is supposed to be a dock. I'll call it a dock from now on) contains HDD, cartridge slot and various other interfaces. It supports TV output (but no CPU/GPU).
The performance module is a portable device that provides power supply. It contains a Li-Ion battery. CPU/GPU also is contained inside. It supports Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and wired connections. You plug the dock inside and it becomes a PS4/Xbone like console, but you can also transfer the signals to the handheld (like Remote Play?)
There are two candidate SoC for it: Pascal SoC from nVidia or AMD R9 SoC.

The handheld part is a 6 inch 720p screen and has a low-TDP SoC, which can satisfy basic operations with lower quality graphics when the performance module is not connected. But it can also display game graphics from the performance module which can provide a console-level graphics. A bit like nVidia Shield streaming. You can bring the performance module with you portable (since it has its own battery).

Additional info: whatever the solution will be, the computing power it has falls far behind a PS4, let alone a PS4 Pro. Don't have high hopes for that. The selling point for it is high portability and hybrid providing rich gameplay possibilities.

If details don't get revealed in Oct then maybe wait for the beginning of next year. I welcome you guys to necrobump this post. Period."

Sooo, that third thing, the "performance module" sounds like you'd have to carry that box with you all the time. Huh?

Who would carry such a thing around for increased performance while on the go? I understand the home console/docking part. You get a performance boost when connecting the handheld to the console to play on your TV. But that third thing makes no sense to me. At home, you would leave it connected to the console all the time anyway, why wouldn't you? On the go, though, I can't see people carrying that thing around at all. So it might just as well be built into the console by default.
 

oxidax

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Here's another!

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Is that a...
 

Window

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If the dock doesn't have a CPU/GPU what purpose does it serve? As a means to connect to a display and load new games onto the handheld?
 
I call fake. It'd be exorbitantly expensive to try to license specially made nVidia AND AMD parts and make them work cohesively together in one mashed together exosystem. Also, it is a clusterfuck of various rumors of internal Nintendo developments and it just seems like the dumbest thing ever.
 

Thraktor

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That's a big red bullshit alarm bell. We are way past "candidate SOCs" at this point.

Yeah, Nintendo would have had to go through the full tape-out process for two completely separate custom SoCs for them to still be deciding between them at this point. Going into a manufacturing test run without nailing down the SoC is even more crazy, you'd literally have to manufacture two separate mainboards to accommodate the different SoCs. They would be basically doubling the R&D spend on the entire project only to drop half their work at the last minute.
 

antonz

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Handheld will have a 720p screen no matter what, but the dock most likely adds something for 1080p on the TV.

Its possible as people have speculated in the past the Handheld is downclocked when not plugged in. Plug it into the module and it goes at fullpower. That would explain why differences in visuals.

If the dock doesn't have a CPU/GPU what purpose does it serve? As a means to connect to a display and load new games onto the handheld?

Seems like Docks main purpose is to take a bunch of stuff out of the handheld such as plug slots etc. to reduce what's inside the handheld
 

ultrazilla

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I still think this is waaaay too familiar in looks with a freaking Wii U gamepad.

If this "sketch" is accurate and Nintendo wanted a clean break from Wii branding, they've failed terribly.

Going with team fake.

Still excited though. :/
 

_Ryo_

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I can translate the original post here (brackets are my comments.)

"NX is a console-handheld hybrid. It is detachable. It contains the console itself, performance module, and the handheld/gamepad.

The console (I think it is supposed to be a dock. I'll call it a dock from now on) contains HDD, cartridge slot and various other interfaces. It supports TV output (but no CPU/GPU).
The performance module is a portable device that provides power supply. It contains a Li-Ion battery. CPU/GPU also is contained inside. It supports Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and wired connections. You plug the dock inside and it becomes a PS4/Xbone like console, but you can also transfer the signals to the handheld (like Remote Play?)
There are two candidate SoC for it: Pascal SoC from nVidia or AMD R9 SoC.

The handheld part is a 6 inch 720p screen and has a low-TDP SoC, which can satisfy basic operations with lower quality graphics when the performance module is not connected. But it can also display game graphics from the performance module which can provide a console-level graphics. A bit like nVidia Shield streaming. You can bring the performance module with you portable (since it has its own battery).

Additional info: whatever the solution will be, the computing power it has falls far behind a PS4, let alone a PS4 Pro. Don't have high hopes for that. The selling point for it is high portability and hybrid providing rich gameplay possibilities.

If details don't get revealed in Oct then maybe wait for the beginning of next year. I welcome you guys to necrobump this post. Period."

Console streams to gamepad? But the console is battery powered. If true then it is literally a portable Wii U clone, that doesn't even offer true portability. I mean if you have to drag the power+gpu+cpu brick and the game pad around and you can't play without that weird battery+gpu+cpu brick this this is destined to fail.

Nintendo cant be that dumb, come on.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Sooo, that third thing, the "performance module" sounds like you'd have to carry that box with you all the time. Huh?

Who would carry such a thing around for increased performance while on the go? I understand the home console/docking part, that you get a performance boost when connecting the handheld to the console part to play on your TV. But that third thing makes no sense to me. At home, you would have it connected to the console all the time anyway. On the go, though, I can't see people carrying that thing around at all. So it might just as well be built into the console by default.

I would, especially if it is pocket-sized.

I'm more interested in this "performance module's" ability to be upgraded in the future. I see zero reason why that couldn't happen, and Nintendo already has the patents.
 

ekim

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The way I interpret that translation: without the performance module, your handheld could do Nintendo Mobile games like Mario Run and Miitomo and such. If you want to play stuff like Breath of the Wild, hook in the Performance Module. Same for at home play. It keeps the mobile handheld portion small and light if you want it to be, or if you want console experiences, bring a battery powered performance thing that will allow you to play NX games on the go.

Yupp. I think about it the same way.
 

Totakeke

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I don't understand why they would have potentially three devices that all draw power on their own. The split between the "dock" and the power module feels very convoluted.

I'm skeptical.
 
The way I interpret that translation: without the performance module, your handheld could do Nintendo Mobile games like Mario Run and Miitomo and such.

But that's what your phone's for. It'll have to be more compelling than that if Nintendo wants people to carry it around with them
 

maxcriden

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Not to keep our hopes up, but he said less than ps4 pro. Not the OG ps4.

In any case, since the dock has no cpu/gpu, looks like the handheld is under locked in handheld mode, but its increased to normal clock speeds with the dock and power supply. That's what the descriptions sounds like to me.

Edit: Nvm, says there is a performance module/scd with a cpu/gpu...

Oh god though, they don't know if its nvidia Pascal or and? Wtf.. Maybe portable is nvidia and scd is amd?

I thought it said less than either?
 
From my understanding of the post, by "basic operations" it means the graphics would be not as advanced as a console. So you can just bring the handheld outside but you will only get basic graphics, but if you bring the performance module with you, you can get more advanced graphics.

If true that sounds fine by me. What I was expecting.

I still think this is waaaay too familiar in looks with a freaking Wii U gamepad.

If this "sketch" is accurate and Nintendo wanted a clean break from Wii branding, they've failed terribly.

Going with team fake.

Still excited though. :/

Wii U gamepad is basically the bottom half of a 3DS with triggers and a second stick.
 
The way I interpret the translation: without the performance module, your handheld could do Nintendo Mobile games like Mario Run and Miitomo and such. If you want to play stuff like Breath of the Wild, hook in the Performance Module. Same for at home play. It keeps the mobile handheld portion small and light if you want it to be, or if you want console experiences, bring a battery powered performance thing that will allow you to play NX games on the go.

Oh, I was assuming the handheld portion would just receive the broadcast gameplay. The idea of having to carry around a performance box along with the handheld sounds like an even bigger inconvenience :/
 

Alienous

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If the dock doesn't have a CPU/GPU what purpose does it serve? As a means to connect to a display and load new games onto the handheld?

It seems like they broke a console and handheld down into a three components. The dock would provide TV connectivity, the handheld would provide a mobile screen, then you just attach the 'performance module' console to either of the two.

So the dock is basically just to send an image to a television.
 

maxcriden

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So...

A dock, performance hardware and low-performance tablet-like screen. You can carry the performance hardware with the handheld, but it's powered by a seperate battery. And you can ... combine the two, then stream to the dock, to have console-level ...

What the fuck?

Wait, streaming to the dock? I missed that, quote please?
 
Okay so...

Piece 1: Homedock that connects to the TV. Useless on its own.
Piece 2: Handheld screen with controls. Has minimal graphics on its own.
Piece 3: Actual console that contains HDD, power, CPU, GPU. Useless on its own. Can be connected (wirelessly I assume) to either the Homedock or Handheld. When connected to the Homedock, it acts as a home console. When connected to the Handheld, it powers the Handheld for full graphics.

So is that it? Nintendo expects you to carry the "console" brick cube thing in your backpack so you can play with just the handheld in your hands?
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Keeping power lower than PS4 for now almost assures a low price point for entry in the market. That could be huge to this thing's success. Remember--evidence is pointing toward something shockingly low.

This would also allow them to upgrade the performance module and/or dock in the future for added power.

Still think it's fake, though. Seems well, well beyond Nintendo's "Everyone can play easily" mantra. It's confusing to say the least.
 

Vena

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I like how OP keeps updating but never adding the important part about this being someone different. It's almost as if that detail shoots this thread right between the eyes lol.
 

Aters

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For those who are wondering if it's the same person: a9vg is a free to register forum. You can create as many accounts as your email addresses (unlike GAF where you can't use free email address).

I'd say from the drawing it's likely to be the same person.
 

maxcriden

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That really doesn't sound like Nintendo at all.

No way they would gimp there handheld if its all supposed to play the same games when handhelds are their biggest sellers. I call fake.

Well, it seems like in this case the HH would play everything just okay, but worse graphics and then play everything excellently with the on the go cube attached.
 
Sooo, that third thing, the "performance module" sounds like you'd have to carry that box with you all the time. Huh?

Who would carry such a thing around for increased performance while on the go? I understand the home console/docking part. You get a performance boost when connecting the handheld to the console to play on your TV. But that third thing makes no sense to me. At home, you would leave it connected to the console all the time anyway, why wouldn't you? On the go, though, I can't see people carrying that thing around at all. So it might just as well be built into the console by default.

I think the answer to that question is how many people carry around portable phone chargers. I certainly have one. As long as it's not too big I see this being really cool. In the office at lunch I could detach the controllers, stand up the screen on the performance module, and playing with a coworker.
 

KrawlMan

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You can bring the performance module with you, as it has its own battery.

Sounds incredibly weird.

Edit - Oh wait, the dock contains the cartridge slot. Uhhhh what. One would assume the portable system itself also has a slot.

I want to assume this is fake; somebody piggybacking on the Foxconn PS4 leaker and and the recent NXproduction news(?) from Foxconn.

This device does not sound like Nintendo learned shit. Awkward and unintuitive

#TeamFake
 
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