Maybe. You should probably wait 5 years and find out.
I wouldn't get one now if I were you.
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PSVR Review Thread
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Maybe. You should probably wait 5 years and find out.
I wouldn't get one now if I were you.
zackmorris
Member
Of course you would. If you're not standing in the same exact spot it would be off
Jeff and Brad both stated they've had the same problems at home.
UpUpDownDown
Member
Decent reviews.
Not surprised that giant bomb can't figure something out lol.
Will be good times next week.
Not surprised that giant bomb can't figure something out lol.
Will be good times next week.
I'm really not looking forward to 7 days of "Giant Bomb had these problems" "Well, GameSpot didn't have any problems". I feel like that's what this discussion has been for the past several hours.
It's a bummer that this stuff is coming up. Hopefully, if it's a problem with bum hardware in certain cases, that stuff doesn't make it to the consumers next week.
Yeah, there's a handful of people who seem to be accidentally doing that. A coincidence, surely.
It's a bummer that this stuff is coming up. Hopefully, if it's a problem with bum hardware in certain cases, that stuff doesn't make it to the consumers next week.
Yeah, there's a handful of people who seem to be accidentally doing that. A coincidence, surely.
EventHorizon
Member
But we don't know the lighting conditions at their houses. The current understanding according to ARS Technica is that the PS VR has trouble under certain lighting conditions, but is perfectly fine under low light conditions. PopcornMegaphone tried to counter that by pointing out that Giant Bomb did a test in a low light situation and still had problems. That's what caused me to check out what they did only to discover that they actually had bright lights in the background which invalidated their test.
All of that just brings us back to the original theory that PS VR has tracking issues in certain lighting setups. Our best understanding so far says that if you close the blinds and turn off the lights, PSVR should be fine.
Coolbgdog12
Member
It's weird but I think GB had faulty units or something. I mean, didn't everyone practically play the PSVR at Bestbuy for months?? BB is a pretty bright store.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
You seem to be inadvertently reading the bad reviews. Check out the OP.
Im not too familiar with GB, but i dont get the hate they're getting for pointing out tech issues with something Sony are asking you to put up 400 to 500 for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dgoJFzY-no
Someone posted this on last page, some GB afterthoughts..... Any impulse i had to pick this thing up is dead unless this jitter, back and fourth movement of the lens issue is sorted.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Read all the positive reviews and perhaps you'd change your mind ...
Sephiroth_VII
Member
Most people had none of those issues though, which is why the working theory is either a wonky setup, or(most likely) faulty hardware.
They get hate for making some pretty definitive statements despite so many others not experiencing the issues they were having.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
From my experience with Vive, you only caliberate only if you want to, since most of the time you will be standing in the designated empty play area.
zackmorris
Member
Right. But PSVR isnt room scale.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
First off, I hope you are right and lighting can fix all of this.
That said, they had the same problem in 3 different environments with 2 different headsets. It's a bit disconcerting.
Man this is hilarious. So many gaffers are just ignoring what Eurogamer has already stated regarding faulty units..
I don't know, me being a VR developer as a dayjob, seeing some of the posts here is just depressing as heck especially when you're trying to make a living off this medium.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
That's quite another big drawback from not having room scale.
EventHorizon
Member
We also have other reviews, and numerous demonstrations out in public, that don't show the problem. Btw, I never got the PlayStation Move Sharpshooter to work satisfactorily while others have praised its use, so I'm use to having trouble with the tech. I'm just saying that the Giant Bomb issues that are being repeated aren't backed up by the video that was shown, and ARS Technica which is a respected technical source, says they had the same problems but were able to solve them.
Edit:
I'd love for Giant Bomb to try their PSVR in the dark to see if they have the same issue. Hopefully they will do so to help track this down.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
LOL this thread just proves how much GAF tends to overblow minor issues. A lot of people are ignoring the overwhelmingly positive reviews out there and chosen to focus on the few negative. Oh well, I hope this means I'll be able to pick up a PSVR on launch day with all these cancelled preorders up in here.
I mean, if this ends up being a harware defect affecting 1/3 of PS VR launch headsets, isn't ignoring negative reviews a stupid thing to do?
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Yea, if we get there and there are a large number of defective PSVRs that would be a problem but so far there's no way of knowing that. I say we all wait till it launches. A few weird units sent out for review doesn't provide a good enough sample for us to come to that conclusion yet.
A minor issue that can cause physical sickness with effects that can persist for hours. This isn't the frame rate dropping in a graphically intensive screen. It's much more serious.
Sephiroth_VII
Member
How so? If 2/3 are fine, and you are aware that this issue may exist, just exchange your headset/camera until you get one that works.
Given that it does look like faulty hardware at this point, I'm not too worried anymore. I was reconsidering my pre-order earlier in the day though, before seeing all the overwhelmingly positive reviews.
Reviews meet my experiences. i kind of expect it to lose track every once in a while, but won't bug me too much. The hour or so I've spent with PSVR was one of the best gaming experiences I've had in years. Vive was probably the best, but this seems way more accessible.
I'm more curious about Vive in terms of work applications rather than games.
I'm more curious about Vive in terms of work applications rather than games.
opticalmace
Member
What psvr games did you play?
I love that any time somebody takes a negative review at face value they always have to have some ulterior motive.
EIther way seems like there are multiple outlets now with the tracking issues. Again I'm sticking with my pre-order, but this doesn't sound like an isolated incident.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Interesting. I had no idea it was that serious.
I never had any issue with the times I used PSVR and I've spent at least an hour in Eve Valkyrie alone. I guess we should wait and see then. Hopefully it's not a widespread problem.
Lol that's exactly what's going to happen.
We really should just wait it out, but people are going to argue the entire week without having actual facts one way or another.
I understand that people are worried, but there's nothing you can really do about it. If you don't feel like waiting it out, just cancel your pre-order and let someone else have it. If you feel like waiting it out, don't cancel it.
It's that simple.
In like 5 days we're going to be in the exact same spot as we are now.
King Gilga
Member
What hardware doesn't get overwhelmingly positive reviews unless it literally explodes or something?
Unaha-Closp
Member
Seeing the problems GiantBomb have been having I am out until it comes down in price or a really really great game comes out for it. I mean a goddamn goliath title too not just tech demo's and bolted on tat. Not being a Resident Evil fan that one isn't it for me.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
Let's be clear on the problem. Lots of other reviews have had problems with the move controllers. The movement of the vr space while playing that GB experienced has been rarer.
Dude said he tried it in all sorts of lighting, even in darkness.
The fact of the matter is it's not just 1 against many, plenty of people have echoed the tracking issues, and the GB guys said it happens at home as well. Some view the tracking issues as awful, others don't. I think it'll depend on the person. Some people loved move despite the severe issues with calibration and inconsistency. I ended up losing all interest over the issues. Tracking issues with VR can be significantly worse given the issue of motion sickness.
Mashables review is scathing
"During another session, at a different time of day -- important to note, since too much natural light can influence the camera -- I was playing Destiny inside PSVR on a virtual 2D screen. The game itself ran well enough, but the virtual screen kept shaking and shifting as I turned my head. It was the camera, struggling to locate the HMD."
That is a really scary prospect. This sounds exactly like the limitations that the move technology faced in general. Again at reveal I immediately saw the move controllers strapped to the prototype and it was very disappointing. Trade shows and impressions settled that. now that people are getting it to themselves and not in pre-calibrated conditions, it seems to be causing some tracking issues here and there.
I'm hangin on to my pre-order still in hopes that I can calibrate it properly, but admittedly I'm nervous now.
Stillmatic
Member
Lol, why are you trying to downplay it? If it was bad we'd hear about it.
Badlucktroll
Member
Do you need move to play until dawn rush of blood? I'll probably be fine with just the demo disc, rush of blood, and X-Wing
Dreams-Visions
Member
Woah, what's the defect? Framerate related?
Nope I've seen it played with a controller. Ideally though, you would play with move so you could have individual control of your hands.
Per Eurogamer:
Mashable, really?
Once again:
http://www.metacritic.com/feature/playstation-vr-headset-reviews?ref=hp
29 positive reviews, 4 mixed reviews.
Also, are you trying to say that Best Buy demos were "pre-calibrated" conditions? What?
Giant bomb and eurogamer needed to swap sets due to severe tracking issues. I personally think it was either the camera, or it's just good ole move technology struggling to locate.
yes they were pre-calibrated by the sony reps... were they setup by the average consumer? No they're trained on how to properly set it up, including the distance the chair is set up, the height of the camera, the angle of the camera, etc. Is that not pre-calibrated in your mind or something?
I'mt not saying the positive reviews don't exist... however that 29 is skewed since even some of the positive ones mention loss of tracking once in a while happening.
It is required, yes.
joecanada
Member
Well that's obviously good news since anyone could learn to calibrate or they could release a tutorial
Lord Frieza
Member
Yeah, the camera is required
Have you tried any of the Best Buy demos? Mine definitely was not set up by some sort of hardware engineering wizard.
Whatever. We're splitting some really thin hairs here. If "not as good as the competition" is equal to "tracking issues" then we know what we're working with. I just thought that shit was understood going in...
StrongBlackVine
Banned
This is kind of weird. I have never seen hardware get scores before. Impressions seem to be mostly good, but this is not for me right now. I will wait for VR to mature before I jump in.
foolishoptimist
Member
Ars observed that overhead lighting was less of a problem.
If I just wanted to try VR for a bit, but don't see myself committing until maybe next year with the Vive, would it be wise to play it for a week or two and then try selling it at cost (or return it if possible)? I have the $500 bundle pre-ordered and have a free month of game fly to try a couple of the $50/60 games out.
That or I cancel the pre-order because it's not worth the hassle.
That or I cancel the pre-order because it's not worth the hassle.