Mmmh good point, at least it should get a spin off, not sure if it will do well overseas without Nintendo's push, but they would care only about Japan with Switch.
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Capcom wants to grow Monster Hunter in West, feels handhelds are limiting sales there
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No, but Capcom usually doesn't give out sell-through numbers. It sold over a million in Japan, which made it one of the very few console games that did that generation, which was still well below the Portable series at the time.
ArchedThunder
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I can totally see Monster Hunter from here on being made with Switch as the primary system and have a PS4 port.
entremet
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It would be cool, but I don't see the series growing beyond its current fanbase in the west.
Posters here are not representative of the mainstream.
MH's game design is antithetical to the AAA western sensibilities that have been cultivated here since GTA3.
It has a huge learning curve. It has very deliberate and measured action. It lacks a cohesive world found the Dark Souls series.
Posters here are not representative of the mainstream.
MH's game design is antithetical to the AAA western sensibilities that have been cultivated here since GTA3.
It has a huge learning curve. It has very deliberate and measured action. It lacks a cohesive world found the Dark Souls series.
Psycho_Mantis
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Capcom, SE, TK, Konami, NB, From Software have all found success on the PS4. SEGA will soon follow with Persona 5.
KratosEnergyDrink
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Unless Capcom changes the formula of MH completely the series will not grow much with a consoles version, despite much higher production costs.
I think Capcom will make next MH for switch and so even handheld/console owners can experience the game. Perhaps a port for PS4/XOne is possible, but depends on the collaboration with Nintendo.
I'd say you are wrong. I worked at a Game store and the average person stated the reason they don't play the series is because of its current platform options.
And yet, Capcom sold half a million copies on the WiiU, and were pretty pleased with the result:
Source: Well, Capcom themselves
Or what would you interpret a "smash hit"?
Sammy Samusu
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More like Monster Hunter is done in Japan if it doesn't get a Switch version.
DrROBschiz
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Yeah man
No way Wii JP third party games sales outperform what PS4 has done
3rd party success on Wii was limited and growth declined over time while PS4 is proving the opposite
A smash hit gets a sequel
You guys keep tooting this horn while Capcom comes out and paints an entirely new picture themselves
Capcom is outside remasters. Dragon Ball is doing great but it did well on Wii also. Souls does well everywhere.
Still nothing on PS4 is matching what Sonic routinely sold on Wii. MHTri did "only" 800k on Wii in the west and I can't name a single 3rd party Japanese PS4 that's confirmed to have sold as much as that. Even lower end sellers like Tales, RE or PES were seemingly doing more on Wii in the west than they are on PS4.
entremet
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And they'll play it and most will quit or sell it back.
Unless you mean Capcom decides to redo the combat engine.
The success of a game depends on more than just on how successful the plattform is. Ask THQ, Factor 5 and Capcom.
AquaWateria
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Fuck I have a terrible feeling Capcom are gonna change Monster Hunter for the worse by trying to satisfy the west.
If they make the game casual I am done.
If they make the game casual I am done.
Mechanized
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The Switch is not the way to make monster hunter grow, that is selling to the exact same people. It needs to be multi-platform.
Exactly my feeling
entremet
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If their plan is legit, that is absolutely happening.
Maybe a classic mode for vets, but then you will splinter the base.
I don't mind portable MH, but I'm growing weary of it. I'll put my 200 hours in and have a lot of fun but all I can think about is how much better the experience was in Tri. 3U suffered from being an up-port of a 3DS game and was inferior to Tri in some ways - namely the online (and some really bad textures). Voice chat was nice though.
Best case scenario - we get a modern console or PC version that moves the game forward graphically and mechanically in a meaningful way without compromising it with DLC or other bullshit. I'm not that optimistic, and I've seen Capcom do so much stupid nonsense lately that I'm always worried about what will happen to MH.
I do wonder how long its anachronistic PSO-like gameplay model will hold up. The way it treats your offline character as your online character almost seems naive these days. I can't imagine them putting a regular MH game on PC without some kind of always online aspect, and I feel like MH would lose something if they did. I don't want Frontier, I want console MH.
Best case scenario - we get a modern console or PC version that moves the game forward graphically and mechanically in a meaningful way without compromising it with DLC or other bullshit. I'm not that optimistic, and I've seen Capcom do so much stupid nonsense lately that I'm always worried about what will happen to MH.
I do wonder how long its anachronistic PSO-like gameplay model will hold up. The way it treats your offline character as your online character almost seems naive these days. I can't imagine them putting a regular MH game on PC without some kind of always online aspect, and I feel like MH would lose something if they did. I don't want Frontier, I want console MH.
I think you aren't giving gamers enough credit.
This is the one time I'd want someone to ask what the sample size was for this anecdote, including what were the genders, age, and whether they would purchase a game from the series or not.
DrROBschiz
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They are kind of going all over the place with the core series though
XX looks mechanically ridiculous at this point
I think the series could actually benefit slightly from a bit more focus
entremet
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I think it will grow some. I just don't think it will be a meaningful increase. It will sell on par with the 3ds releases in the West.
The series just doesn't have mainstream appeal. And that's fine as long as it is profitable.
Japan and the West have very different markets.
Most of the demographic were 14-30. Make and female. And most wanted to purchase.
Glass Rebel
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You think a company would completely change a game and ruin it in order to chase a bigger audience that is probably not even interested in the game in the first place?
That has never happened.
I agree, making a game with confortable controls and over 240p resolution is a terrible idea.
We need a 'claw' control mode for true hardcore fans.
DrROBschiz
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If anything it will just be the next iteration
and after what I am seeing from XX I wouldnt mind them going back to the basics a bit
They definitely need to keep many of the the 4th gen upgrades for sure though
Sammy Samusu
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Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
I will follow the series were ever it goes (except Microsoft consoles) but bring it to PS4 Capcom! I been waiting for 3 years for that to happen. Heck I know it's stuck in Gen II-IIIsh mechanics but at this point I wouldn't mind trying out Monster Hunter Frontier Z on PS4 if it gets localized here in the West.
I still hope that Double Cross is coming to the Switch.
I still hope that Double Cross is coming to the Switch.
As I mentioned the last page, that already happened with Toukiden 2.
Success is relative. I can also say Sega, Capcom, Konami, EA, T2, Activision, Ubisoft, Disney, Square Enix, THQ, Level 5, Bandai Namco, Hudson, WB, and other 3rd parties found success on Wii.
DrROBschiz
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I think its more like
Japanese play co op locally and on handhelds
Westerns play co op online with party chat on console
I totally think they can find a new audience if they made the effort
Sounds like MH PS4/XBOne at least. Maybe throw /Switch or /PC in there. If not /Switch, they're giving up on Japan and portable all together and seeking to sell to the west first with niche Japanese PS4 audience as second consumer base. That's not too unusual for big, ambitious Japanese games. Especially when a series as big as MH could probably do well relative to install base on PS4 in Japan anyway, just like FFXV probably will.
I mean it's also totally possible Capcom isn't confident in an install base 0, low catalog portable like Switch taking off in the Japan of today anyway.
I mean it's also totally possible Capcom isn't confident in an install base 0, low catalog portable like Switch taking off in the Japan of today anyway.
Glass Rebel
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Wasn't my post sarcastic enough?
DrROBschiz
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I dont think we have the data to do an accurate comparison plus a lot of companies jumped ship on Wii over time while PS4 is still growing years in
Im not sitting with all the comparison data at my fingertips but I would be interested to know the actual numbers of how JP third party titles sell on both systems over their lifetime
Smooth Operator
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In that case though they'll also need to choose platforms open to cross-console online unless they want to fracture their userbase. Nintendo and Microsoft both allow it, ball might be in Sony's court again...
Unfortuntely, I've never played it extensively for various reasons.Fixed.
Monster Hunter on the other hand...
AsylumBlue
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The worst thing that'll come from a mainline console "Monster Hunter" is all the bitter handheld warriors throwing shade at it, hoping it fails so they can be vindicated.
All ages. No younger than maybe 14. No older than 30. Male and female. Mostly male.
EDIT: Double post.
Glass Rebel
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And it still wouldn't even begin to offset the salt from all the "console warriors" in basically every Monster Hunter related thread since the announcement of Tri.
If Capcom's gonna give SFV longer legs beyond the FGC, they better have quite the extensive relaunch planned for Season 2. I mean, it's gonna be rough, but it's not impossible (I mean, FFXIV pulled it off). SFV may be in a rough situation, but the franchise isn't nearly as dead as GAF makes it out to be, especially since there's typically a 6-7 year gap between numbered SF games (with updates to the current entry in between).
As for Monster Hunter, sounds like they may go PS4/Switch for MH5 based on what was said here. I know there was a rumor about Sony paying Capcom to specifically avoid the Switch, but the avoid-the-Switch part seems a little farfetched for Sony (why not also tell Capcom to avoid XB1 like they did for SFV?).
As for Monster Hunter, sounds like they may go PS4/Switch for MH5 based on what was said here. I know there was a rumor about Sony paying Capcom to specifically avoid the Switch, but the avoid-the-Switch part seems a little farfetched for Sony (why not also tell Capcom to avoid XB1 like they did for SFV?).
DrROBschiz
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Well thats what a Switch announcement could be relieving since you get both
I cant imagine Sony is going to make another portable and I feel like a PS4/Vita cross play game isnt going to happen...
dragonlife
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Remember when people were asking if it was a PS4/Xbone announcement... in a Nintendo Direct.
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