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Honestly I know 1 MAYBE 2 people out of about 30 friends who buys physical games now.
The marketing on this game was a big mess.Is this the second time ROTTR flopped?
Titanfall and Tomb Raider could be seen coming miles away. Toys-to-life was never going to last.
I will try not to make the same mistake here in my phrasing as I did in the NPD thread, but if the premise of your argument is that people are gaming on phones and other devices than why are the current gen consoles still outpacing last gen sans WiiU? In other words, why are people buying these consoles? What are they playing?
Honestly I know 1 MAYBE 2 people out of about 30 friends who buys physical games now.
Assuming the latest UK sales are a portent of US sales; franchises where the latest iteration has bombed:
Call of Duty
Assassins Creed
Watchdogs
Titanfall
Halo
Gears of War
Gran Turismo
Tomb Raider
That's kind of a who's who of AAA games. It also doesn't include the fact that Konami ousted Kojima and effectively chose to scrap Metal Gear Solid. I'd expect similar for Final Fantasy and Resident Evil in the near future. Part of the issue may be increase in AAA competition as you also have the likes of Destiny and The Division competing for sales and these dragging games down.
On the other hand sports games seem to be doing well and some licensed games like Batman and Dragonball have been doing well. That could suggest some existing gamers are becoming more casual in the habits and making safer choices.
I don't think the problem is Toys to life, this has still great potential, but Skylanders is boring. A better game could still sell. How sells Lego? Let's see if Nintendo has something on this front for Switch next year.
I think the age of the 50gb mega budget videogame is definitely nearing its end. But then hopefully we can get back to mid budget games again, and reset. Think Shadow Warrior.
My frustration with today's videogame market, much like Hollywood, is that we have very low budget games and very high budget games but little in between. But it's the in between where the real magic happens.
And no one is surprised at either Titanfall 2, Gears of War 4 or Rise of the Tomb Raider flopping. Stupid marketing decisions and tired ideas don't seem to be getting an easy pass this generation. Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare and Watch Dogs 2 are next on the flop list.
It's upsetting because we're seeing genuinely good games not do well here. All of them, as well as Dishonored 2 and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided are very good games, but they are all releasing at awful time periods. Maybe following Sony and just avoiding the holiday season is a smart choice? Titanfall 2, Watch Dogs 2, Rise of the Tomb Raider and Dishonored 2 didn't need to come out at this time of the year.
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Honestly I know 1 MAYBE 2 people out of about 30 friends who buys physical games now.
lol I feel like gaf is gonna be very surprised about the results of FFXV even though writing has been on the wall for years
Ya that titanfall release date did not make any sense. Was pretty much DOA. Normally I would of bought it and I still will at some point just to many other things I want to play rite now. Q1 don't seem to be slowing down either when it comes to game releases.The Titanfall bomb was even worse than I imagined. Truly abysmal numbers. Still just cannot fathom what EA was thinking with that.
Great to see BF1 getting a solid reception I hope it brings about more historical settings for shooters in the coming years.
If Skyrim Remaster sells more than FFXV........................oh boy.
No, seriously. It is too crazy to think people are just waiting for Black Friday sales to buy those games? I personally am. Let's see those sales numbers after the season...
If Skyrim Remaster sells more than FFXV........................oh boy.
lol I feel like gaf is gonna be very surprised about the results of FFXV even though writing has been on the wall for years
no i think the industry is doing really well, particularly on mobile and steam (of which i am a big fan). the old 'traditional' market and way of buying games is a section of the industry that is becoming quickly outdated and irrelevant to the industry as a whole.
i'm saying that handwaving entire platforms or subsections of the market as 'not really mattering' is ignoring the actual truth and signs of a section of the market in obvious decline. every hardware manufacturer this gen will see lower sales of hardware and software at retail versus last gen. no one is safe - although sony didn't string an albatross around their neck in the form of a ps3 so they are at least more profitable.
Games like UC4 are great experiences but not great games.
Uninspired open-world, cinematic games, story-heavy ...meh
They are not underperforming, everyone is just saving their money for Final Fantasy XV & The Last Guardian.
Battlefield 1 performing so well while releasing on fewer platforms than BF4 did (and the larger installed base) is solid for sure. Hopefully the WWI setting doing great will bode well for DICE to return to WWII with the next Battlefield.
I lol'd
but again: I'm not saying handhelds don't matter. Handhelds died because they failed to adapt or because something (smartphones) is better than them for the average consumer. That's life. The next and only future handheld is being advertised as a console, that says it all.
Regarding Wii vs WiiU, it's important for some actors, but irrelevant for others. CoD, Dice, Rockstar or EA Sports are not really missing the Wii, neither are Sony or Microsoft. Just Dance, party games, toys to life on the other side... yes, they miss it. The customers from the later are now being served in another place.
Witcher, Batman and I think Far Cry also improved sales this gen.
I'm not going to hedge my bets, but it depends on how it reviews, but I can see it doing decently.
It'll have a boost in Japan, and if it's a good game it'll have legs WW. It's going to drop in price and it'll be released on PC at some point as well. That's another potential audience. Not to mention people double dipping on that as well.
Also at least here in the states with FFXV coming out on the 29th. Won't that mean it'll be tracking in December NPD?
They are not underperforming, everyone is just saving their money for Final Fantasy XV & The Last Guardian.
Really? I think it's going to do well. I feel like there's a lot of hype for it.lol I feel like gaf is gonna be very surprised about the results of FFXV even though writing has been on the wall for years
Honestly, the biggest hit of all this is Tomb Raider.
I mean, holy shit. Going timed exclusive was potentially a $200+ million blunder.
Call of duty flopped in the UK? The times, they are a changing.
I mean FFXV needs to perform well in the West.
Japan is not going to cut FF any slack... it's likely that it won't even reach a million there and the first week might be something the region of 550-750k(FF being very front-loaded in Japan)
I don't know how it will be perceived in the West but if a lot of people have a similar reaction to Conan it won't be pretty and it might displace NMS from the collective conscienceless.
I don't know we shall see, I'm personally not optimistic but who knows it might be just awful marketing or a joke I'm not getting.
yep. hope that deal with ms was worth it ...
Its a double shame because the PS4 release is so damn good and a big improvement over the Xbox release and yet its still caught up in the wake of that bad decision.Honestly, the biggest hit of all this is Tomb Raider.
I mean, holy shit. Going timed exclusive was potentially a $200+ million blunder.