One thing that confuses me is Cranberry asking Fav about what happens when they lose their magic. By now it's established that the two are working together, probably have been for some time, and that Cranberry almost certainly knows the mechanics involved. So why did she ask if she should know? If it was in a public forum to make sure the others knew and were more willing to fight to the death that would be one thing, but she asked when there wasn't anyone else around, and guessing that Winterprison would trawl through the archives and find that conversation is implausible.
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Magical Girl Raising Project |OT| Madoka x Future Diary = Magical Girl Battle Royale
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Ragnorok64
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Given her demeanor in that scene, I'd say she left that chat log there intentionally so it'd be found. She didn't necessarily know it'd be Winterprison checking the chat logs, but its always possible somebody would. Also, unless that was a really really old chat log from when she first found out herself, she doesn't even need to be in the chat in order to talk to freely with Fav.
Regarding Cranberry, watch the cold opening to episode 1 again knowing what you know now.
She's a sociopath. That's enough justification. It's believable when you consider the accounts and cases of actual child sociopaths. It just so happens that this one has super powers.
And to be clear, I don't know anything about the LNs beyond the structure of them.
She's a sociopath. That's enough justification. It's believable when you consider the accounts and cases of actual child sociopaths. It just so happens that this one has super powers.
And to be clear, I don't know anything about the LNs beyond the structure of them.
If you listen closely, you can hear that it was Swim Swim that picked it up. Though why no one is using it at the moment is another question.
Thanks, just making sure, haha. I hate unintentionally spoiling something for someone, so I'm always extra-careful. On that note...
Episode 10...
God damn it, you need to die already, Swim Swim. Seriously. Hardgore Alice's backstory was heart-breaking enough, seeing Swim Swim mercilessly hunt her down and brutally kill her...I just can't...
The final four will probably be Snow White, Ripple, Swim Swim (Snow White and Ripple need their revenge, after all), and maybe Cranberry. I can see Swim Swim probably sacrificing Tama to get at Cranberry, but still not being successful.
I kind of had a feeling that this episode would be depressing, and it was. I don't know why I watch shows like this, it never treats me well. I need to lie down.
Cornbread78
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Fuck you Swim, fuck you. Poor Alice got screwed by her backdoor killing style. Give me a fair head to head battle to watch, not these cheap underhanded tactics..
Fuck you Swimmy.
Fuck you Swimmy.
Yeah, your right. I did mistake that completely. I hope this death sends Snow White into action. That is 2 people who had no desire for killing anyone and only sought to protect Snow White that has died.
I really am annoyed at Alice's death, like come on. They kill off all the interesting characters.. This HAS to be the one that has Snow White break down. She must realize she can't sit down forever.
from what I've heard, this is definitely her breaking point. She's a much different character after this, going forward
Cornbread78
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How will Snow White fight back though? She has no offensive weapons at all and can only sense those that are in danger/need help. She is horrible underpowered whereas Swim Swim is super OP and straight ridiculous to have an 8 year old act like a stone cold killer with a great brain to think things through.....
11. Time for more flashbacks of doom. Starring... Cranberry?
It's still not super clear on whether she was from the magic world or not. Cranberry's sound manipulation is a lot stronger than I thought. Wow, did Tama just dig through Cranberry's body? So much for her being useless. In hindsight I probably should've taken the episode title to mean Cranberry would lose, meaning Fav would need time to get things ready with a new master. I'd say screw Swim, but we already knew that. Extended flashback for someone who just died. Sure, why not. I knew I was right in liking Ruler. Swim Swim is a terrible master for this sort of thing. Must me why Fav seems intent on getting Ripple to kill her. My guess is that Ripple kills Swim, then dies from injuries or commits suicide or whatever, but my track record for for this show has been abysmal, so my predictions don't mean anything.
lazyproblems
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It was super obvious Cranberry would die at the cold open, but I gotta admit, I had no idea Tama's whole digging would be used for that. Kinda funny that she ended up killing the strongest magical girl.
As soon as Swim woke up, I knew what was going to happen. ;_; I was hoping poor Tama would struggle across the finish line with a couple other girls. I think I'm on board the "Fuck Swim Swim" train at this point, goddamn.
Fav turning on Swim is pretty comical. Guess he didn't like getting told to stfu. Although to be fair, we all knew he wouldn't end this at 3-4, so I guess he is going to continue the plan to narrow it down to one.
If I had to guess what will happen, Swim Swim will probably get defeated, but I'm not sure if they'll have the guts to pull the trigger on a little girl (even if she is a psycho brat). I also think that Snow White will finally do something and end up helping Ripple. I guess there's an option for all of them to die too.
I'm fairly certain she was. Especially when you consider that what's left of her body didn't convert to a human form after dying. She was working with Fav from the beginning, and didn't even have an eye catch clue alluding to a human form.
As soon as Swim woke up, I knew what was going to happen. ;_; I was hoping poor Tama would struggle across the finish line with a couple other girls. I think I'm on board the "Fuck Swim Swim" train at this point, goddamn.
Fav turning on Swim is pretty comical. Guess he didn't like getting told to stfu. Although to be fair, we all knew he wouldn't end this at 3-4, so I guess he is going to continue the plan to narrow it down to one.
If I had to guess what will happen, Swim Swim will probably get defeated, but I'm not sure if they'll have the guts to pull the trigger on a little girl (even if she is a psycho brat). I also think that Snow White will finally do something and end up helping Ripple. I guess there's an option for all of them to die too.
I'm fairly certain she was. Especially when you consider that what's left of her body didn't convert to a human form after dying. She was working with Fav from the beginning, and didn't even have an eye catch clue alluding to a human form.
Well, her ability makes it where she hear people's thoughts while they are in trouble right? She was able to hear Tama's thought despite her not being "in trouble", so if this is the case, doesn't that mean she can listen to the thoughts while in combat making it where she knows what they will do next? While not powerful magic in terms of raw power like Swim-Swim and Alice, it can make up for it a bit if she is smart enough.
I am not sure how they will deal with Swim-Swim though, even if her weakness is sound and light. I mean what can they possible use? Would electricity work?
Cranberry have to be from the magic world, she didn't revert back to a normal form when she died. All in all, I guess I am not like everyone else, I don't hate Swim-Swim. She, just like everyone else has and is being manipulated, only issue about her is how she doesn't hesitate in her actions. I am still going to be sad for her if she ends up dying, just like I will be sad if Ripple ended up dying. I am assuming Snow White will intervene in their fight. I am surprised how she seemed to gloss over the fact Fav just said Swim-Swim killed Alice (on top of the many other deaths he mentioned).
I like how they show the effect the deaths are having on the characters, though I really wish there was more substance.
Jeez Tama being beheaded and THEN her back story being shown was cruel. She was too pure for all that. Ruler caring for her too was really hard to watch. Her death hit me the hardest I think.
Also Cranberry's death was super gruesome, what a cool use of Tama's power. I hate that she had to be put in a position to use it like that though.
Also Cranberry's death was super gruesome, what a cool use of Tama's power. I hate that she had to be put in a position to use it like that though.
killer rin
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Nooo... poor Tama. She did not deserve that one bit. And that backstory; that was way too cruel a backstory to give someone who just died at the hands of someone she thought she could trust.
They have also finally managed to redeem Ruler given how much backstory had been revealed so far about her interactions with her group. She may have been dictatorial, but she seemed to actually care for her subjects. A complete contrast to Swim Swim who is only ruling to rule.
Nooo... poor Tama. She did not deserve that one bit. And that backstory; that was way too cruel a backstory to give someone who just died at the hands of someone she thought she could trust.
They have also finally managed to redeem Ruler given how much backstory had been revealed so far about her interactions with her group. She may have been dictatorial, but she seemed to actually care for her subjects. A complete contrast to Swim Swim who is only ruling to rule.
Ragnorok64
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Maybe it's because I instinctively compare him yo Kyubey, but Fav is really scary when you think about it. He seems to be an AI or something that's capable of boredom and lying. Kyubey(s?) was manipulative in his withholding of information, but did he ever straight up lie?
Also it seems Cranberry's weakness is that her ability is active and not passive so when she we surprised that SwimSwim was a child she stopped listening and let herself get snuck up on.
Also it seems Cranberry's weakness is that her ability is active and not passive so when she we surprised that SwimSwim was a child she stopped listening and let herself get snuck up on.
Episode 11...
I haven't hated an anime character for a while now, more than I do Swim Swim. She keeps killing off characters that I like, and after hearing Tama's back-story (that happened when she was immediately sliced at the neck) was even more heart-breaking. When Tama woke Swim Swim up and started talking about how she was surprised at how young she was, I had a feeling Swim Swim was going to kill her and then it just...happened. No time for me to prepare at all. :/
Man, this show really knows how to put me in a depressing mood. Snow White had better do something next week. I'm still hoping she'll pull a
and find some way to bring back those that she's lost. I know it's unlikely, but damn it I want a happy end for Top Speed, Tama, Winterprison, Nana, Nemurin, La Pucelle, and Hardgore Alice. Even Ruler didn't seem as bad as she seemed. Cranberry, the twins, and Calamity Mary can stay dead, right alongside Swim Swim (I hope).
I haven't hated an anime character for a while now, more than I do Swim Swim. She keeps killing off characters that I like, and after hearing Tama's back-story (that happened when she was immediately sliced at the neck) was even more heart-breaking. When Tama woke Swim Swim up and started talking about how she was surprised at how young she was, I had a feeling Swim Swim was going to kill her and then it just...happened. No time for me to prepare at all. :/
Man, this show really knows how to put me in a depressing mood. Snow White had better do something next week. I'm still hoping she'll pull a
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The Silver
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Snow White is useless, why is she still alive, Swim Swim pls.
Tama aint gonna get sympy from, going along with Swim's nonsense, Swim couldn't be more a murderous sociopath if she tried. Now knowing Ruler was actually nice to Tama and she still went along with the plan to betray her, smh
Tama aint gonna get sympy from, going along with Swim's nonsense, Swim couldn't be more a murderous sociopath if she tried. Now knowing Ruler was actually nice to Tama and she still went along with the plan to betray her, smh
To be fair, Tama didn't know Swim Swim's plan when she transferred the candies. Swim Swim told her to do it, so she did. When she found out what the transfer resulted in, it was too late for Ruler. Then Tama just attached herself to the new "leader-in-charge", since that's all she had coming from a rough childhood that had no supporting parental figures for her.
Ragnorok64
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I actually kinda looked it up, but wouldn't Swim Swim be more of a psychopath than a sociopath?
I do appreciate how they've made most of the powers actually pretty useful with some creativity. Snow White's mind reading and tracking, Ripple's rain of shards, Cranberry's sonic attack, Tama's touch of death, you could even argue that Swim is doing this because Nemurin pulled an inception on her. The weakest ones might actually be Ruler with her stupidly high constraints and La Pucelle's sword that Cranberry could deflect with her bare hands. Though maybe La Pucelle could be good if she can pull off an Unlimited Blade Works. I guess there's also Sister Nana, but her boosting powers were really vague and only used once, so it's hard to figure out what they can really do.
The Silver
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you're right, she still gets no sympy from me though.
well the fact that she's a child muddles the water quite a bit, she's still developing, something that looks psychopathic might not actually be the case.
She's very cold and calculating like a psychopath but she doesn't really make any effort to mimick having emotions or normal relationships, it's plainly obvious something is wrong with her, she also clearly has some level of emotional attachment to Ruler. It's not this simple but if you go with the ol socioapths are hot headed and psychopaths are cool and calm then yeah Swim is more a psychopath. But like i said it ain't that simple.
Not really sympathetic towards Tama, for going along with the madness of the most prominent villain team. Finding friends and people she could count on doesn't really excuse what she's been doing. It's tragic, but she also deserved it.
I do like the creative use of powers this show has. Didn't think twice about Tama scratching Cranberry; I just thought "Wow, you're screwed." But then Cranberry exploded and I went, "Oh... right." Neat stuff.
Swim Swim sucks so much, though. I hope Ripple just beats the crap out of her. It should be the final episode, right? Maybe Snow White will finally do something.
I do like the creative use of powers this show has. Didn't think twice about Tama scratching Cranberry; I just thought "Wow, you're screwed." But then Cranberry exploded and I went, "Oh... right." Neat stuff.
Swim Swim sucks so much, though. I hope Ripple just beats the crap out of her. It should be the final episode, right? Maybe Snow White will finally do something.
Ragnorok64
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That's probably a symptom of this being based on the first arc of a light novel series. Apparently future arcs are like twice as long so I'd expect them to have more character development. Though i think there's already plenty lost in us not being able to hear all the characters' inner monologs. Apparently there's a lot of insight into Ripple we don't have simply since we never get to hear what she's thinking.
Cornbread78
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So, how did they kill Cranberry again? Also, where was the other twin? Those deaths just didn't play out well.. Not sure how they plan on closing this out at this point..
killer rin
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Other Twin was pulverized last episode when Cranberry realized she was disguised as a rock in an attempt to flank and crushed it. Cranberry died this episode when she let her guard down, thinking that Tama was useless, only to have Tama put a hole in her body
Cornbread78
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Crap, now I remember that scene with the twin.. I'll have to watch how Tama killed her again because I'm still not sure how she pulled that off.
She scratched Cranberry's back with her ability to make holes in anything she scratches. It was a surprise attack since Cranberry was apparently surprised that Swim-Swim was a child, putting her guard down enough for Tama to scratch her.
Tama's ability was to create holes out of anything she scratches. She scratched Cranberry across the back, and subsequently made a hole out of her entire top section. Pretty gruesome.
Cornbread78
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It make sense that you would be confused, since they compleltly changed how Tama's magic is visualised for this episode only.
Cornbread78
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Ragnorok64
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It's not that they changed it so much as they just slowed it down a lot. If she made a hole in her as quickly as she's been shown to make them in the earth it'd make no sense visually.
Ragnorok64
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Wait! What happened to Tama's busted arm between last episode and this one?
killer rin
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It's mentioned early on that magical girls heal extremely quickly. Just doesn't extend to fatal wounds like Alice's did
Ragnorok64
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I thought it was that injuries sustained while in magical girl form would go away when they untransformed?
killer rin
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I'm not sure if that's also the case, but they mention that they heal faster while in Magical Girl form. Hence why it would have been interesting to see what would have happened had Alice been able to transform before dying. Would she have healed her wounds? Or would she just be trapped in her Magical Girl body forever since transforming would bring her back to a dying body. It would have been an interesting thing to see play out :/
Suck it Swim Swim and Fav.
A decent ending, great in some ways and disappointing in others.
This final episode is basically a set up for future seasons (the world of magic, true magical girls, the truth of the project) and a step up in awesome for Snow white.
I'm really hoping there is a second season. There is enough material to last for a few now and I really enjoyed this series. The characters, powers, music, animation were all fantastic and I look forward to seeing a brand new cast
Lots of explanations about stuff that don't really matter to our characters.
Decent overall. Some issues regarding flashbacks of doom and the main character being useless, but it delivered what it promised and was entertaining the whole way. I'd easily put it in the upper half of post-Madoka MG shows. Hopefully the future light novels are adapted later down the road.
Not sure why Ripple kept doing a bunch of stuff to Swim until she remembered she had a flash grenade. I guess Mary had some extra supplies lying around that roof? That rabbit's foot seems to have healing properties if it saved Ripple. Snow White's mind reading comes in handy yet again. Ripple does all the hard work yet again. I guess that's about as good an ending one could hope for. Pity Snow White only became cool off-screen after the main story ended.
Decent overall. Some issues regarding flashbacks of doom and the main character being useless, but it delivered what it promised and was entertaining the whole way. I'd easily put it in the upper half of post-Madoka MG shows. Hopefully the future light novels are adapted later down the road.
A link to the translated light novels for anyone like me who can't wait for more.
Going to read the first Arc and see how different it was in the light novels. Apparently the finale was quite different
Going to read the first Arc and see how different it was in the light novels. Apparently the finale was quite different
lazyproblems
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I had fun. It was a decent ending overall. Some closure and potential for future stuff if they choose to go on with the series.
I didn't think they'd have the balls to kill Swim Swim, so kudos for actually pulling the trigger there. Similarly, I assumed Fav would survive somehow and be the mascot, but I liked how they just stomped him in the end. This whole last episode was actually kinda funny for Fav, so I enjoyed seeing him squirm.
Snow White basically got away with doing nothing, and now she fights terrorists around the world. I feel like the idea that the protag won doing very little is a premise from a comedy series, but whatever.
The use of flashbacks was comical in this show, but I had fun with the season overall. Some fun powers, girls and the uses of those powers. Glad they didn't undo everything, although the fact that a little girl and a pregnant woman died made me wonder if they would.
I'd watch another season, and will read the Light Novel when Yen Press releases it.
I didn't think they'd have the balls to kill Swim Swim, so kudos for actually pulling the trigger there. Similarly, I assumed Fav would survive somehow and be the mascot, but I liked how they just stomped him in the end. This whole last episode was actually kinda funny for Fav, so I enjoyed seeing him squirm.
Snow White basically got away with doing nothing, and now she fights terrorists around the world. I feel like the idea that the protag won doing very little is a premise from a comedy series, but whatever.
The use of flashbacks was comical in this show, but I had fun with the season overall. Some fun powers, girls and the uses of those powers. Glad they didn't undo everything, although the fact that a little girl and a pregnant woman died made me wonder if they would.
I'd watch another season, and will read the Light Novel when Yen Press releases it.
Ragnorok64
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So I was thinking it would play out that Ripple would somehow manage to kill SwimSwim, realize she just killed a child, then kill herself out of shame/despair. Turns out she found out it was a kid and still just went stabbity stab stab on her.
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This show would be a lot better if it didn't spoil its own plot twist. I still remember how hilarious it was for the show to spoil the magic power of the girl right before it reveals itself, took all the surprising away from the actions. The flashback are the worst, what's the point of having a surprising death if you going to announce right before hand?
The killing was fun I guess, the finishing move on swim swim is truly something, there are no regret in her eye.
The killing was fun I guess, the finishing move on swim swim is truly something, there are no regret in her eye.
This show was alright and a good entry in the "Battle Royale" genre. I'm not too bothered by it, but it's pretty funny how the main protagonist didn't do anything of note while it was going on, even when she strengthened her resolve at the climax. Basically only ended up in her wanting to become stronger in the epilogue; wonder if that is something relevant to the future of this series.
Ripple was pretty stupid to throw all she had at Swim Swim like that. She was explicitly told that her weakness was sound/light. She should have just used the flash bang after she saw that her first volley didn't do anything; I thought she was trying to condition her or something, but she was just being stubborn.
Not sure this anime will see subsequent seasons, but it's cool to see that there are fan translations of the other light novels. I think I heard something about official translations coming out next year, too? Might check these out.
Ah, that was it. I'm not sure if they only announced the first one or not, but I assume they'll also work on the other ones, too.
Ripple was pretty stupid to throw all she had at Swim Swim like that. She was explicitly told that her weakness was sound/light. She should have just used the flash bang after she saw that her first volley didn't do anything; I thought she was trying to condition her or something, but she was just being stubborn.
Not sure this anime will see subsequent seasons, but it's cool to see that there are fan translations of the other light novels. I think I heard something about official translations coming out next year, too? Might check these out.
Ah, that was it. I'm not sure if they only announced the first one or not, but I assume they'll also work on the other ones, too.
lazyproblems
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The Amazon listing specifically says volume 1, so I'm assuming they're committed to the series (or at least trying with the first few). Yen tends to release 3-4 volumes for their different LN series per year, so we should at least get the first few games.
Huh, apparently I was wrong about future arcs being Battle Royale style killing games. There's always a new cast of characters and a lot of deaths, but the genre apparently shifts each time.
Supposedly the next one (Restart) is a VR type thing with murder mystery elements.
Would love for future arcs to get adapted, but I doubt the series sold well enough for that.
Supposedly the next one (Restart) is a VR type thing with murder mystery elements.
Would love for future arcs to get adapted, but I doubt the series sold well enough for that.
Ah, I see. Well, I guess that's not too bad, considering the very possible redundancy a bunch of Battle Royale games would entail (though there would certainly be ways to keep it fresh between them).
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