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Digital Foundry: Nintendo Switch CPU and GPU clock speeds revealed
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7 goes back to play games
Eh the GPU wasn't upgraded in the new 3DS. Nor does any of of those values make sense, are you using CPU flops (I still don't think they're right)? It doesn't really make sense to talk about flops for 3DS GPU since it doesn't have programmable pixel shaders. (for vertex shaders alone it should be about 4 GFLOPS unless my calculations are off)
Robert at Zeboyd Games
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The Switch is the Nintendo developed Vita 2 with a better PSTV built-in and detachable controllers. I really hope this isn't surprising anybody.
Dreams-Visions
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whewlad.
Kids play games on tablets, and the Switch has the formfactor of a tablet. If they manage to hit a toy-like pricepoint for the Switch (<$250) I think it could see success with the younger game demographic, even if it's size means it's used more at home.
Reading this is depressing. I was expecting low, but not this low. This is why I don't care about hybrids. Something has to give and that's usually the console side since it has to be portable. Oh well, I guess I'll be focusing mainly on my PS4 going forward. I'll keep an eye on the NS, but it's going to be something I'll get somewhere down the line rather than day one.
calc84maniac
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I think the CPU upgrade will be a major help.
Come. On. Let's bring a bit of logic here : what we saw during the Switch reveal trailer was the special edition.The LKD leaks were talking about the special edition. The most recent version, and the only one that makes sense to be ported, is the special edition.
Same for DQXI, why would that be anything else than the UE4 version ? Unless they're developping a whole new version, with a completely different look, but we have no basis for that claim. The Switch is running UE4, so it will runs the UE4 version. The 3DS is not running the UE4 version because it's not powerful enough, so they had to make a different version. That's like saying that the Smash bros port will be a port from the 3DS version. That makes zero sense from any perspective.
These are not facts, but nothing in this thread is a fact either, it's either all of them or nothing.
Omega Kirby
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Times like these I miss having a fourth console in the market.
RIP Sega
RIP Sega
guybrushfreeman
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This is 100% the cycle we went through with the Wii U. Although thankfully step 3 there is very uncommon and reminds me more of certain Xbox One reveal rumours.
What A Time To Be Alive
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why
every fucking time :S
every fucking time :S
Yes, the Wii-U was a massive failure.
The Wii was their biggest success, and by all accounts the 3DS was hugely successful as well.
They may think that they just need to find the right niche to be successful, and this could very well do that.
EventHorizon
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Where is the evidence that the world is currently full enough of Nintendo fans to support a console. With the exception of the Wii, Nintendo consoles have steadily been given less support over the years. Excluding the Wii is appropriate because most of its hype came from people buying the console for motion controls, not Nintendo games.
LordOfChaos
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This might be off, I see some other errors in there too (i.e the Wii U GPU, which that DF article still won't fix...)
http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/
Main error seems to be attributing a clock speed bump to the 3DS GPU. Which, now that you mention it, was said to be 100% the same.
"wow, such unneeded pessimism. nintendo would never release something that weak. they'd have to go out of their way to do so."
"wow, such unneeded pessimism. power isn't even important anyways. if the games look as good as Wii U that would be fine, anyways."
"wow, such unneeded pessimism. sure the switch bombed, but they'll get it right with the next console."
SargerusBR
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Don't know why people are so surprised. The gamecube was the last time Nintendo went hard on hardware specs.
Maintenance
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I'm still laughing.
calc84maniac
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I hope you like using controls without games.
OrbitalBeard
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azertydu91
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Yeah and as I was reminded a bit earlier finally play games and be happy with it.
What A Time To Be Alive
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Switch has support for UE4.
Skyrim Special Edition looks marginally better, runs about the same.
I can easily see it running on the Switch with some optimization but obviously it's Bethesda so I can see it running out the gate at like 20-30fps.
But NVIDIA Gflops aren't the same as AMD Gflops right?
Okay, so how does this compare to the Wii U, the Xbone and the PS4?
It seems to be like it always is with Nintendo hardware. We are expecting a piece of competent tech and Nintendo under delivers so severely that it makes the news and dampens their momentum.
They were on track to have mostly positive new about their new piece of technology for a change and this seems to be a big problem. Not only for enthusiasts, but also for 3rd parties that want to port games with the smallest effort possible. Now it will be harder and most likely considerably worse.
O well...
Edit: Wait, it's gonna be SLOWER than the Wii U in portable mode? Nintendo... sometimes... Watch them fumble the OS next and the VC after that.
It seems to be like it always is with Nintendo hardware. We are expecting a piece of competent tech and Nintendo under delivers so severely that it makes the news and dampens their momentum.
They were on track to have mostly positive new about their new piece of technology for a change and this seems to be a big problem. Not only for enthusiasts, but also for 3rd parties that want to port games with the smallest effort possible. Now it will be harder and most likely considerably worse.
O well...
Edit: Wait, it's gonna be SLOWER than the Wii U in portable mode? Nintendo... sometimes... Watch them fumble the OS next and the VC after that.
Yeah, this is disappointing.
However -
- Switch will be over 50% more powerful than the Wii U when docked.
- Will be 30x more powerful than a 3DS, and 5x more powerful than a Vita when undocked.
- Price should be quite low, around $250, possibly even $199.
- Most importantly - this most likely will be the first system in a family of Switch devices. In a 1-2 years, I can easily see Nintendo releasing a "Switch Pro" with a 1080p screen, double the GPU power (using Pascal/Volta), ARM A72 cores with higher clocks, etc.
However -
- Switch will be over 50% more powerful than the Wii U when docked.
- Will be 30x more powerful than a 3DS, and 5x more powerful than a Vita when undocked.
- Price should be quite low, around $250, possibly even $199.
- Most importantly - this most likely will be the first system in a family of Switch devices. In a 1-2 years, I can easily see Nintendo releasing a "Switch Pro" with a 1080p screen, double the GPU power (using Pascal/Volta), ARM A72 cores with higher clocks, etc.
I'm gonna assume it's a joke post
guybrushfreeman
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It's a good step 7, I like it
Those 3 SM numbers are fantasy until confirmed. The 2 SM numbers are more likely at this point.
AstroNut325
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I was attacked for this, but I was correct. At best its 2x Wii U. I'm Portable mode, it's less than Wii U.
I've been predicting this since early this year!
I've been predicting this since early this year!
That's like a 100% performance improvment over the PS360 version though
teflontactics
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Approx. 4:3 IIRC.
calc84maniac
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On the GPU, yes. It also has 40℅ as many pixels to render.
That's how I took it. A parody of how hyperbolic people are on Gaf every goddamn day.
kittenbreath
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Why? Other than Dragon Quest, where else are you going to play those games?
Serenitynow
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Is Nintendo going to allow dock-only games? I thought I read otherwise somewhere
chrisPjelly
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Eh, disappointed for sure, but everyone was going to treat it as a portable console with an hdmi out regardless. Missed out on the WiiU, so I'm gonna enjoy the ports, 1st party games, and Japanese games. Consider western support dead on arrival
Do you consider this a benefit? Kind of sucks for the people who buy the Switch at launch. Also pretty skeptical it would happen.
CouchMaster
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lol @ people saying it'll be cheap because its underpowered. Have you seen the price of new 3DS skyrocket from $99 to $180 and still sold out?
TheGreyHulk
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Only if it's priced right. The 3DS didn't start selling well until it was priced sub $200. Im hoping this is only $200 as it's pretty much a handheld.
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