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[NateDrake]

Hi all,

What's the consensus in here on the veracity of the Gamestop leak?

I haven't been able to keep up with that thread, is there any corroboration for the info in the OP?

Given Kimishima's comments about 2M units and being able to increase production if demand is larger, and given there will surely be some pre-orders available (?) unlike with NES Classic which had next to none, I was hoping there would be units available for those wishing to preorder.

Friday will have pre-orders starting once the store opens. There should be a list for those who want to be added so a store can contact you if more pre-order spots open up. Each store has a different set for allocation. A trade-in promo will be announced this week where you can trade-in Wii U, PS4, and Xbox One towards Switch - specifics I don't know.

I worked as a GS store manager and still have friends within the company. This information I heard earlier today from district and store managers.

 

[GAMETA]

Bruh...

Wut? Am I wrong? Tell me how complex a sports minigame can be...

"but it sold the industry changer MOTION CONTROLS" yeah and 10 years later no one gives a single fuck about it.. seeing comments on the internet about Wii games on the Wii U Eshop and you hear people saying "oh shit, I really need to use motion controls? Can't I play with the Pro Controller or the Gamepad? Nintendo should fix it!".. Such an innovation, was so much ahead of it's time that not a single person wants to use that crap anymore...

VR is going down the same way... trendy stuff selling to trend follower cool wannabe people, once the hype's gone it's all gone.

 

[random25]

Yep.

To me that's one unfortunate mistake in hindsight. Back when they were flush with cash from the Wii and DS breaking records they really should have been aggressive in buying up some developers.

Be it splurging on a major one that was struggling like Capcom or Konami to have those big IPs in their stable, or some more niche ones like Atlas, and/or buying several smaller ones (including some western ones).

That would have really helped round out their exclusives library. Bad for consumers as we all mostly hate exclusives, but for a company like Nintendo that struggles to get third party support that would have been a wise move to sure up the library for the future.

Buying big studios or publishers isn't as easy as some think. I remember back in the day that Nintendo was rumored to buy Bandai Namco only to be halted by the government because of monopoly issues. I don't know if that's legitimate but it kind of makes sense as Bamco is a really big game company aside from their merchandising side of things.

They could have bought companies like Capcom with their cash, but Capcom themselves lost a lot of key people that made their iconic games aside from Monster Hunter, so would it really be a worthy investment? Same with Konami, which is doing much better without their gaming division doing anything. You need the people behind the games, not just owning the IPs themselves.

I think what Nintendo is doing starting from the late stage of Wii U is a much better strategy going forward: partner up with these developers for exclusive games, whether lending their IP for a crossover game, co-funding a new game, asking them for assistance in making their own first party titles, or just keep certain IPs as exclusives.

 

[IlSignorCornetto]

i think that Scalebound as it is can't come to Switch since the IP is owned by microsoft.
But maybe, all the work that they put on the game, with UE4, could be used on a new game with a new IP on Switch. At least i hope so, i really liked what i saw.

 

[Plum]

Hypeeeeee

Guessing that's from GAME? Considering heading there tomorrow to put in a deposit then go in again on Friday to order games/change to any better SKUs. Did they say anything about demand or how many people have already ordered?

 

[TunaLover]

I'm glad I'm not alone in wanting Okami 2!

Three of us

 

[Malakai]

He's talking about the console...

I don't think anyone can say the N64 was irrelevant or didn't influence industry trends in NA where it was actually successful. But whatever I'm getting sick of negative posts.

 

[Piscus]

Wut? Am I wrong? Tell me how complex a sports minigame can be...

"but it sold the industry changer MOTION CONTROLS" yeah and 10 years later no one gives a single fuck about it.. seeing comments on the internet about Wii games on the Wii U Eshop and you hear people saying "oh shit, I really need to use motion controls? Can't I play with the Pro Controller or the Gamepad? Nintendo should fix it!".. Such an innovation, was so much ahead of it's time that not a single person wants to use that crap anymore...

VR is going down the same way... trendy stuff selling to trend follower cool wannabe people, once the hype's gone it's all gone.

Who hurt you?

 

[Zedark]

Say Scalebound is officaly Cancelled.

Should Nintendo save it? I don't feel it would've sold much, but it could boost Relationships with Platinum and Fans.


I Personally have no opinion on this matter, the game never looked intresting to me ,but what do you guys think? Save or not?

I don't think they can. Scalebound is an IP owned by Microsoft, so unless they decide to throw the IP for grabs (which they might, but there is also the Fable/Lionhead case where Lionhead got shut down instead of being sold in conjunction with the Fable IP - though Fable is obviously much bigger than Scalebound), there is no way anyone will work on it.

If Nintendo could buy the IP, I would personally like to see the fulfillment of that game. The combat looked like it had potential even though it didn't look very good at the moment, and if Nintendo allows Platinum to fare its own course

Spoiler

and maybe remove those stupid western culture aspects like the headphones that feel so out of place to me

, there could be a very nice JRPG coming out of that partnership.

 

[AzaK]

Nintendo Spain's PR manager just posted this on his Twitter, and I think it's amazing. Not sure if it's his creation, but whatever.

Ahh marketting. Telling you the stories they want to you hear, as opposed to the actual story.

That graphic should be a bunch of ever decreasing dias' until Wii then it goes up and then drops down dramatically, with the final one being a question block.


Edit: I just notice the fine print "even skeptics are welcome" now that's funny.

 

[Toadthemushroom]

I think the huge success of the DS actually hindered the 3DS, especially right out of the gate. People were satisfied with their DSes and there wasn't a ton of pent up demand for a new Nintendo handheld.

With the Switch, I think there is pent up demand for both a Nintendo console and handheld. Combine that with the fact that the Switch should launch with better software support and a better software pipeline and I would expect first year sales for the Switch to be strong.

If Switch doesn't handily outsell what the 3DS did in the first year, something has gone very wrong.

Yeah, that's a good point. It's a fresh start and won't face the same branding issues either. Like you say people were content with the latest DS Revisions they had, and were more interested in software like a new Layton game than new hardware. Didn't help that people's expectations for DS hardware upgrades were set in stone from the DS Lite - 3DS threw those expectations out of whack with its exclusive game library. We might have recognised it as a new generation but I forgive the masses for not.

 

[BRocknRolla]

Wut? Am I wrong? Tell me how complex a sports minigame can be...

"but it sold the industry changer MOTION CONTROLS" yeah and 10 years later no one gives a single fuck about it.. seeing comments on the internet about Wii games on the Wii U Eshop and you hear people saying "oh shit, I really need to use motion controls? Can't I play with the Pro Controller or the Gamepad? Nintendo should fix it!".. Such an innovation, was so much ahead of it's time that not a single person wants to use that crap anymore...

VR is going down the same way... trendy stuff selling to trend follower cool wannabe people, once the hype's gone it's all gone.

Perhaps all of you just walk away from this conversation. It's clear no one is going to convince anyone of anything here. It's barely even about the Switch.

 

[LinkSlayer64]

Wut? Am I wrong? Tell me how complex a sports minigame can be...

"but it sold the industry changer MOTION CONTROLS" yeah and 10 years later no one gives a single fuck about it.. seeing comments on the internet about Wii games on Wii U eshop and you hear people saying "oh shit, I need to use motion controls? Can't I play with the Pro Controller or the gamepad?".. Such an innovation, was so ahead of it's time that not a single person want to use that crap anymore...

VR is going down the same way... trendy stuff selling to trend follower cool wannabe people.

I feel like the point you are missing is how big an impact Wii had, it sold millions of consoles worldwide, it had everybody gaming, and possibly created what we call the "casual" market that dominates mobile gaming.
Everyone knows what the Wii was.
If anything, the NES could be swapped out with the SNES because everyone knew about the SNES due to the console wars between Ninty and SEGA, with both sides pursuing aggressive marketing.

It has to do with knowledge of the device's existence, not how good the games were in anyone's opinions. It's an ad that targets the classic fans of the NES, and the modern world that knows about the Wii.

 

[ugoo18]

Presentation is at 3pm in Australia, finally a presentation at a decent time here lol


I'm going to make the prediction of a From Software developed 3D Metroid either at the presentation or at E3.

 

[DecoReturns]

Ahh marketting. Telling you the stories they want to you hear, as opposed to the actual story.

That graphic should be a bunch of ever decreasing dias' until Wii then it goes up and then drops down dramatically, with the final one being a question block.

I feel like you've been hurt by Nintendo for so long, but you keep coming back to them.


Its just Marketing.

 

[Neoxon]

i think that Scalebound as it is can't come to Switch since the IP is owned by microsoft.
But maybe, all the work that they put on the game, with UE4, could be used on a new game with a new IP on Switch. At least i hope so, i really liked what i saw.

That's what I was gonna say. Microsoft likely owns the assets as well as the IP, so I wouldn't get your hopes up for Nintendo trying to rescue the game.

 

[Piscus]

Ahh marketting. Telling you the stories they want to you hear, as opposed to the actual story.

That graphic should be a bunch of ever decreasing dias' until Wii then it goes up and then drops down dramatically, with the final one being a question block.

...he's right, guys. Shut the thread down. We don't deserve to be excited.

 

[Plum]

Presentation is at 3pm in Australia, finally a presentation at a decent time here lol


I'm going to make the prediction of a From Software developed 3D Metroid either at the presentation or at E3.

Prediction? That's my fucking dream game right there. If Metroid-sounding music plays, the Nintendo logo appears and then "From Software" straight after it I will probably wake up my neighbours from the hype.

 

[ThanksVision]

you guys are crazy lol

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Wut? Am I wrong? Tell me how complex a sports minigame can be...

.

I could be wrong, but given his avatar I think he took offence to "those old arcade crapy games on old shopping malls." Like what exactly?

Ahh marketting. Telling you the stories they want to you hear, as opposed to the actual story.

That graphic should be a bunch of ever decreasing dias' until Wii then it goes up and then drops down dramatically, with the final one being a question block.


Edit: I just notice the fine print "even skeptics are welcome" now that's funny.

Are you aware of the story behind this 'ad' ?

 

[Debirudog]

Ahh marketting. Telling you the stories they want to you hear, as opposed to the actual story.

That graphic should be a bunch of ever decreasing dias' until Wii then it goes up and then drops down dramatically, with the final one being a question block.


Edit: I just notice the fine print "even skeptics are welcome" now that's funny.

Ever so personal with marketing.

 

[GAMETA]

Who hurt you?

Nobody buddy, just different opinions, you know... people have them.

 

[TheDinoman]

It's just a parody of this, christ.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I wasn't planning on pre-ordering a Switch from my local GS but now that Scalebound is no more, I may use my XB1 as a credit deposit. Super pissed right now about that game's fate.

 

[BlastProcessing]

you guys are crazy lol

 

[BlastProcessing]

Nobody buddy, just different opinions, you know... people have them.

You seem to be the one who has a problem with this whole different opinion thing...

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

Guessing that's from GAME? Considering heading there tomorrow to put in a deposit then go in again on Friday to order games/change to any better SKUs. Did they say anything about demand or how many people have already ordered?

Gamestop I haven't heard anything about that, people are probably waiting for more news on bundles and what not.

 

[brad-t]

Wut? Am I wrong? Tell me how complex a sports minigame can be...

Exponentially more complex than any of your darling SNES titles, and absolutely ground-breaking and innovative at the time of its release. Wii Sports is a great game that pioneered truly novel control features, and is the reason the Wii moved as many units as it did. If you can't acknowledge this, you should probably refrain from commenting on Nintendo's business strategy.

It's also obvious why they would feature the Wii instead of the SNES as a true leap forward from the NES lol. Can't believe you are so bitter over an ad that was mocked up in a few minutes to celebrate the Switch's release.

 

[Shahadan]

Nobody buddy, just different opinions, you know... people have them.

You're just projecting because you don't like something and try to bend reality to make some sort of stupid point. You don't even realize it. Christ.
They should teach how to form opinions in school.

 

[timetokill]

Ahh marketting. Telling you the stories they want to you hear, as opposed to the actual story.

That graphic should be a bunch of ever decreasing dias' until Wii then it goes up and then drops down dramatically, with the final one being a question block.


Edit: I just notice the fine print "even skeptics are welcome" now that's funny.

AzaK dude if you need somebody to talk to you can PM me or something

 

[Waji]

I'm currently imagining Monolith soft not developing a RPG... it's tough.
Don't do that to me : ( .

Three of us

That would make me feel better !
Ôkami is not something that should sleep forever.
A spiritual successor at least could be great.

 

[GAMETA]

I feel like the point you are missing is how big an impact Wii had, it sold millions of consoles worldwide, it had everybody gaming, and possibly created what we call the "casual" market that dominates mobile gaming.
Everyone knows what the Wii was.
If anything, the NES could be swapped out with the SNES because everyone knew about the SNES due to the console wars between Ninty and SEGA, with both sides pursuing aggressive marketing.

It has to do with knowledge of the device's existence, not how good the games were in anyone's opinions. It's an ad that targets the classic fans of the NES, and the modern world that knows about the Wii.

Oh no, yeah, I do understand how big the Wii was... what I don't understand is people that proclaim "we love videogames" sucking its balls, people that claim "Wii Sports was an important game" or "Wii Sports was more important than Super Mario World"... Do you even know what a game is? Do you play sales figures? It's not about personal taste, it's about checking if you know what the hell you're talking about.

Some of you guys are worse than the interactive-movie-lovers-hit-square... geez :/

 

[Debirudog]

I was lurking around gaf but I remember AzaK being the most optimistic and hopeful of the Wii U before it's release lol.

 

[xochipiltontli]

Yeah, the Wii had great games, Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Zelda TP and SS (not my favorite), DKC Returns (the best game on the system, in my opinion), MK Wii and what more?

I like the SNES a lot more than the Wii, but your sparse list is a doing a huge disservice to the Wii's library.

- Metroid Prime 3
- Sin & Punishment 2
- Super Smash Bros. Brawl
- Xenoblade
- Red Steel 2
- Monster Hunter Tri
- Zack & Wiki
- MadWorld
- No More Heroes
- No More Heroes 2
- The Last Story
- Sonic Colors
- Kirby's Epic Yarn
- Kirby's Return to Dreamland
- Little King's Story
- Punch-Out!!
- Rhythm Heaven Fever
- Muramasa The Demon Blade
- A Boy and His Blob
- Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
- Excitebots

 

[Aostia]

Wut? Am I wrong? Tell me how complex a sports minigame can be...

"but it sold the industry changer MOTION CONTROLS" yeah and 10 years later no one gives a single fuck about it.. seeing comments on the internet about Wii games on the Wii U Eshop and you hear people saying "oh shit, I really need to use motion controls? Can't I play with the Pro Controller or the Gamepad? Nintendo should fix it!".. Such an innovation, was so much ahead of it's time that not a single person wants to use that crap anymore...

VR is going down the same way... trendy stuff selling to trend follower cool wannabe people, once the hype's gone it's all gone.

Ahh marketting. Telling you the stories they want to you hear, as opposed to the actual story.

That graphic should be a bunch of ever decreasing dias' until Wii then it goes up and then drops down dramatically, with the final one being a question block.


Edit: I just notice the fine print "even skeptics are welcome" now that's funny.

Uuuh
Wow

 

[Plum]

Gamestop I haven't heard anything about that, people are probably waiting for more news on bundles and what not.

Ah, forgot Gamestop had stores in Ireland. I'm heading into my town on Wednesday anyway so I'll see if I can preorder then, if I can and there's different SKUs announced on Friday I'll just pop in again and change it. That or just try for Amazon but then I won't get that midnight release experience

 

[ReyVGM]

Im pretty sure this is real guys.

Hahahahahha "Father"!

 

[LordKano]

Oh no, yeah, I do understand how big the Wii was... what I don't understand is people that proclaim "we love videogames" sucking its balls, people that claim "Wii Sports was an important game" or "Wii Sports was more important than Super Mario World"... Do you even know what a game is? Do you play sales figures? It's not about personal taste, it's about checking if you know what the hell you're talking about.

Some of you guys are worse than the interactive-movie-lovers-hit-square... geez :/

Could you please refrain yourself from talking ever again ? I swear, every one of your post is more embarassing than the previous one.
How could you say that Wii Sports wasn't an important game when it was one of Nintendo's biggest key in the Wii's success ?

 

[GAMETA]

Exponentially more complex than any of your darling SNES titles, and absolutely ground-breaking and innovative at the time of its release. Wii Sports is a great game that pioneered truly novel control features, and is the reason the Wii moved as many units as it did. If you can't acknowledge this, you should probably refrain from commenting on Nintendo's business strategy.

It's also obvious why they would feature the Wii instead of the SNES as a true leap forward from the NES lol. Can't believe you are so bitter over an ad that was mocked up in a few minutes to celebrate the Switch's release.

Jesus Christ, this is some serious brain-washing...

And it's not about the ad... it's about what we can expect of the Switch if it's being compared to the Wii.

Anyways...

 

[Jaded Alyx]

I like the SNES a lot more than the Wii, but your sparse list is a doing a huge disservice to the Wii's library.

- Metroid Prime 3
- Sin & Punishment 2
- Super Smash Bros. Brawl
- Xenoblade
- Red Steel 2
- Monster Hunter Tri
- Zack & Wiki
- MadWorld
- No More Heroes
- No More Heroes 2
- The Last Story
- Sonic Colors
- Kirby's Epic Yarn
- Kirby's Return to Dreamland
- Little King's Story
- Punch-Out!!
- Rhythm Heaven Fever
- Muramasa The Demon Blade
- A Boy and His Blob
- Silent Hill: Shattered Memories

- Tatsunoko vs Capcom
- Another Code: R
- Disaster: Day of Crisis
- Endless Ocean
- Trauma Team
- Mario Strikers Charged
- GoldenEye 007
- Grand Slam Tennis
- NSMB Wii

 

[Aostia]

Oh no, yeah, I do understand how big the Wii was... what I don't understand is people that proclaim "we love videogames" sucking its balls, people that claim "Wii Sports was an important game" or "Wii Sports was more important than Super Mario World"... Do you even know what a game is? Do you play sales figures? It's not about personal taste, it's about checking if you know what the hell you're talking about.

Some of you guys are worse than the interactive-movie-lovers-hit-square... geez :/

Can I ask what balls you like to suck instead?

 

[oti]

Anyway, do you guys NOW believe Zelda is coming out in March since Emily tweeted about it?

https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/818523361093582848?lang=de

 

[ugoo18]

Prediction? That's my fucking dream game right there. If Metroid-sounding music plays, the Nintendo logo appears and then "From Software" straight after it I will probably wake up my neighbours from the hype.

Didn't From say they were working on 3 titles a little while back and one of them was a Sci Fi title? That's basically where my prediction is from after seeing them listed on that Nintendo 3rd party reel and that rumour of them testing out and being happy with DS3s performance on the Switch ahead of a possible DS trilogy release for all three consoles.

After all who better in Japan for a Metroid game outside of Nintendo themselves especially with Nintendo's western arm in Retro not working on Metroid going by the rumours. Perfect way to build up that relationship with From also.

 

[Piscus]

Jesus Christ, this is some serious brain-washing...

And it's not about the ad... it's about what we can expect of the Switch if it's being compared to the Wii.

Anyways...

I think you missed the ad's intent.

 

[LordKano]

Anyway, do you guys NOW believe Zelda is coming out in March since Emily tweeted about it?

https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/818523361093582848?lang=de

2018 dude, just accept it.

 

[Waji]

WTF? Were you even born when videogames moved from 2D to 3D?

The PS1 in 1994 did an amazing job showing everyone 3D graphics but it was the N64 in 96 that perfected everything. The N64 changed the whole thing. Most of the games you play today are still based on concepts created by Nintendo on the N64 era.

What did it do that's so important? It created the fucking fundamentals of 3D gaming that's what it did. WTF dude?

Nice way to answer, thank you...

Well I never liked the PS1/N64 3D so I guess that's why I don't really care.
I liked the precalculated 3D on PS1 for backgrounds but that's it.

And yes I was born far before the 2D to 3D switch.

 

[GAMETA]

You're just projecting because you don't like something and try to bend reality to make some sort of stupid point. You don't even realize it. Christ.
They should teach how to form opinions in school.

Indeed they should, maybe you could think for yourself instead of following the fan club opinions without doubt or hesitation. "Hey it sold millions, it's probably the best thing ever".


Btw, I'm brazilian, sorry if I can't express myself that good in english. Have a nice one!

 

[BRocknRolla]

Oh no, yeah, I do understand how big the Wii was... what I don't understand is people that proclaim "we love videogames" sucking its balls, people that claim "Wii Sports was an important game" or "Wii Sports was more important than Super Mario World"... Do you even know what a game is? Do you play sales figures? It's not about personal taste, it's about checking if you know what the hell you're talking about.

Some of you guys are worse than the interactive-movie-lovers-hit-square... geez :/

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt before as people weren't exactly being polite in their replies, but you've jumped the shark now.

Console yourself with the knowledge that your opinion is just as worthless as everyone else's and move on with your life. You're wrecking this thread with a debate about the Wii; a debate that has no place here.

 

[oti]

Or that Nintendo will sit on 3D Mario until the Holidays?
https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/817883101032513538?lang=de

Let me just say for one last time that I told you this stuff a long time ago but you didn't believe me. Ok, then. I'm done being petty.

Spoiler

For now.

 

[GAMETA]

Can I ask what balls you like to suck instead?

Oh I'd suck my own if I could hahahaha.

I suck Nintendo's games balls, those are still the best on the market.