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Alex_Mexico
Member
Do we have confirmation of Switch is significantly more powerful than a WiiU? Or is this a GC to Wii power jump? No game I saw looked even close to a PS4 so I know that's out the window.
Kazuo Hirai
I really want everyone to know how much more Titanfall 2 sold than Nioh. It was a staggering amount.
No,Nintendo has the JP market ,like the PS3 even outsold 360 cause Sony is King of Europe
I'd be shocked if it wasn't.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Such a horrible disappointment.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
This is a more appealing WiiU to me.
Price bad.
Graphics capability bad.
Launch games bad.
Presentation bad.
Pricing of peripherals bad.
Battery life bad.
Paid online bad.
Nintendo really blew it. I still want one, but the atmosphere of disappointment is palpable.
Price bad.
Graphics capability bad.
Launch games bad.
Presentation bad.
Pricing of peripherals bad.
Battery life bad.
Paid online bad.
Nintendo really blew it. I still want one, but the atmosphere of disappointment is palpable.
I would have definitely liked for them to have shown more, but looking back, I don't remember Sony wowing me with their early 2013 presser. They had Shadow Fall, Knack, and Driveclub as their big games.
At E3 that year, they unveiled FF XV and KH3, both of which have taken 3+ years to see release. I think they also unveiled The Order there as well.
In any case, it's usually fine not to blow your load all at once in the unveiling. However, any more news is likely coming after the Switch release in March.
Its not portable enough for that. 3 hours battery? Large. It's the Wii U vision updated is all
killatopak
Gold Member
Zelda BotW on Switch is 720p undocked and 900p with AA docked.
while it is equal/less than 720p on the Wii U.
It's definitely not a big jump. It's a bit less of jump from PS4 to Pro.
Orniletter
Banned
This is just launch day + a select few games they chose to reveal for 2017.
We know for a fact that Nintendo has several big games under wraps for later in the year ( Retro Studio's game, Pokemon Stars, Mario x Rabbids).
Otakumegane
Member
Nintendo's total unwillingness to take financial risks regarding hardware and the plagues of adapting to HD development are really showing themselves in full now.
This presentation was awful. Xenoblade 2 is a clear sign that their 3D modelers sidestepped the issue of adapting 2D art into 3D and instead took the easy route of full moefication (Also is it running at fking 720p). Zelda was the only really good part of this. If one of the "highlights" of software you had to present was a port of Street Fighter 2 of all things I dread to know what middling options we'll have later on.
Incredibly poor showing. I don't even know if I'll get a Switch within the year. The addition of paid online is a moodkiller as well.
This presentation was awful. Xenoblade 2 is a clear sign that their 3D modelers sidestepped the issue of adapting 2D art into 3D and instead took the easy route of full moefication (Also is it running at fking 720p). Zelda was the only really good part of this. If one of the "highlights" of software you had to present was a port of Street Fighter 2 of all things I dread to know what middling options we'll have later on.
Incredibly poor showing. I don't even know if I'll get a Switch within the year. The addition of paid online is a moodkiller as well.
Skeletos311
Junior Member
Dancing Queen
Banned
JESUS.
How can you show something like this with a straight face.
Come on Nintendo. We were kids during the SNES era but now we are fucking 30!
Zelda powned the gaming industry, thats all i need
ArchedThunder
Banned
I see the Special Edition for Zelda up for preorder on Amazon, but not the Master Edition.
Mario Kart 8 only ran at 720p on Wii U.
Switch is pulling 900p with AA on Zelda. Seems like a step up towards X1's capabilities, but not quite there.
I think they realised that in order to offer robust online infrastructure like Xbox Live. They would need to charge for it.
In the past it made sense for their online to be free because the service was completely bare bones. I think Nintendo are trying to expand more into offering gaming as a proper service. So they're moving into the subscription model for the online.
I'm disappointed overall. Zelda looks good, but I'm really disappointed that the hardware is holding back the game's art style. I don't care about Mario Kart 8, Mario Odyssey should be fine when that comes out. Best news for me is SMT being announced, but that seems like they just started making that. Another SMTxFE situation I bet, not expecting to see that for years.
Price is too high, I'll consider getting one when it's cheaper. Controllers are really expensive, paid online sounds like garbage considering the online service is likely to be garbage. No talk of a proper account system to use on any Nintendo device so it's already a huge red flag. Battery life sounds borderline useless, Zelda will probably only get you 2.5 hours.
The whole thing is just really underwhelming considering how long we've waited for this. The presentation itself was just a mess. Really horribly done from a marketing perspective I think.
Price is too high, I'll consider getting one when it's cheaper. Controllers are really expensive, paid online sounds like garbage considering the online service is likely to be garbage. No talk of a proper account system to use on any Nintendo device so it's already a huge red flag. Battery life sounds borderline useless, Zelda will probably only get you 2.5 hours.
The whole thing is just really underwhelming considering how long we've waited for this. The presentation itself was just a mess. Really horribly done from a marketing perspective I think.
RareFantasy64
Member
Overall I give this conference a B+. Great job explaining the Joycon, they delivered games for the casual audience and they definitely delivered games for the core gamer. I mean a 64/Sunshine Mario game? I never thought I'd see that again. Xenoblade 2 so soon after X, Dragon Quest X/XI and the other the third-party efforts shown were promising.
I think it needed one more big 1st party game or 3rd party exclusive to hit a A territory but this was awesome
I think it needed one more big 1st party game or 3rd party exclusive to hit a A territory but this was awesome
Banjotanooki
Member
Soon....no word on Mother 3?
Euro is kinda weak, especially against the dollar, but also yen.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Got mine preordered too and I feel the same.
Not sure if my expectations were too high or something, and I actually only found out about the FY stuff today. :/
This was not a good presentation imo. Poorly paced and barely touched on the console specifics and details. The online hitting a paywall when its still iffy whether this even meets the standard of modern online gaming.
That said, the concept/innovation of a portable console like this is so appealing to me. The games look damn good, but the launch lineup looks too thin
I'm at a split whether I should keep my preorder or not.
Or you could buy the Wii U version, dump it and play it at 4k in CEMU on a medium PC instead of 900p on Switch. There's your superior version.
I think it sold out in an instant.
A Serious Man
Member
Launch lineup? Nah.
Price? Nah.
Battery life? Whatever, I'll never use the portable mode anyway.
32GB? Why does my fucking phone have more storage than your console? Triple nah.
Paid online? Not opposed to the practice but given how garbage Nintendo's online has been in the past, I'll have to go with nah.
Verdict: Nah.
Price? Nah.
Battery life? Whatever, I'll never use the portable mode anyway.
32GB? Why does my fucking phone have more storage than your console? Triple nah.
Paid online? Not opposed to the practice but given how garbage Nintendo's online has been in the past, I'll have to go with nah.
Verdict: Nah.
SporeCrawler
Member
I agree with Price and Battery Life but
the presentation was awesome.
Graphics Capability? I dont know this is a portable device and the games looked on par with vita games or even better. Id say graphics are okay.
Launch games are bad? I dont know how Zelda is a bad series. It seems to be shaping up quite well. I prefer one Zelda to the entirety of the 3DS launch lineup. Also paid online is pretty much standard now (sadly.. but nintendo resisted two generations).
euro is pretty strong against the yen actually. There was a time not long ago where 1 Euro was like 90 yen. People are just too used to 1 Euro being 140 yen
so I can play it on the go?
What kid in 2017 is 1-2 Switch supposed to entertain?
lol now that i think about it how the hell they didn't port over bayo 2.
So rather than buying a switch you are recommending buying a PC for one game?
CEMU compatibility is hardly good enough at this point to call it the superior version of any game.
Fucking great.
Switch = AU$470
Pro controller = AU$100
Zelda = AU$90
$660.... $660 fucking hell Nintendo.
Even without the Pro controller this thing would cost me AU$560.
I don't even know how this console operates, UI, friends list, social media sharing, OS speed and features etc etc.
Two things
1) Wait and don't buy at launch until you get the info you want
2) Buy from NZGameshop (probably an aussie variant) which comes from the UK and tends to be cheaper for games than local.
I pre-ordered the Switch and the Zelda Master edition to play at launch. I guess my Switch will then collect dust until Splatoon 2 and Mario. I already had my fill of Mario Kart 8 back when I used to own a WiiU. The other games I'm interested in wont be out for a very long time, ie, Xenoblade 2, SMT5, FE Heroes, etc...
Cow Goes Moo
Member
mobile users prolly
though there are probably similar games like that on phones already so
royox
Member
It's a nintendo console. It will be sold out the first week and after that the sales will come with a dropper for the rest of its lifetime with sudden peaks with the release of some Nintendo games.
True, but between March 3 and holiday many months will pass
And sit on Mario until holiday means that they dont have many other big guns ready for holiday
That means the usual Nintendo stream of games, nothing new / no advantage for consumer was shown deriving by the hybrid concept
Pokémon Company could have done that. Nintendo did nothing to comunicate that the Switch will receive many more games than the usual Nintendo console by exploiting the portable teams / brands / lineups
Before the presentation I was going to make an uber pessimistic bingo card but thought "nah that'd be too negative". I should have and I'd have probably hit everything.
Yea they're really gonna milk it for all its worth
Poor presentation overall but I liked the filmed sections with the switch hardware guy. He comes across well. Overall though the live translation sucks life out of any presentation
Paid online is a bummer - they should have taken the opportunity to differentiate. With a likely smaller number of third party games it'll be a secondary console for many and I don't know if they can justify charging for online. Just as things like splatoon were getting big, this could snuff out online multiplayer if they aren't careful
The straps coming with the joycons are interesting. I hope they aren't a sign that the standard joycons are uncomfortable when undocked. The simple connection/disconnection starts to get a bit tiresome if you have to then connect those. Will be interesting to hear impressions of the 'naked' joycons
Zelda looked fantastic but I don't know if that can justify over £300 at launch (when you include Zelda). Surprised 1-2-switch isn't a pack-in. It looks fun but they should give it away to showcase the joy cons and build word of mouth
First party lineup is lightweight even for Nintendo. Basically only Zelda at launch is interesting, then a gap to splatoon 2 in summer, and another to Mario in the Autumn.
I've bought at launch every console since N64 and got my fingers burned a few times with price drops and big droughts. If I can survive the Zelda hype I think the sensible thing to do is look to buy in when Mario comes along and hope/expect a price drop by then.
Paid online is a bummer - they should have taken the opportunity to differentiate. With a likely smaller number of third party games it'll be a secondary console for many and I don't know if they can justify charging for online. Just as things like splatoon were getting big, this could snuff out online multiplayer if they aren't careful
The straps coming with the joycons are interesting. I hope they aren't a sign that the standard joycons are uncomfortable when undocked. The simple connection/disconnection starts to get a bit tiresome if you have to then connect those. Will be interesting to hear impressions of the 'naked' joycons
Zelda looked fantastic but I don't know if that can justify over £300 at launch (when you include Zelda). Surprised 1-2-switch isn't a pack-in. It looks fun but they should give it away to showcase the joy cons and build word of mouth
First party lineup is lightweight even for Nintendo. Basically only Zelda at launch is interesting, then a gap to splatoon 2 in summer, and another to Mario in the Autumn.
I've bought at launch every console since N64 and got my fingers burned a few times with price drops and big droughts. If I can survive the Zelda hype I think the sensible thing to do is look to buy in when Mario comes along and hope/expect a price drop by then.
I don't know, I played this week Xenoblade X at 4k pretty nicely.
And you're assuming it will run flawlessly on Switch.
If you have money to spend, yeah. If not, you could just play it on Wii U, the difference is not that big. But yeah, I know, the portability totally deserves 330 euro.
Flintty
Member
Holy shit that was so cringey! I was dieing when he showed how to sit on the sofa. I've pre ordered the red/neon for now but overall I'm not too impressed with the price and have some doubts about the joycons (I think they might be too small for my big man-hands) so I might cancel.
New Mario looks interesting and damn, I still haven't finished the other Xenoblade games yet!
New Mario looks interesting and damn, I still haven't finished the other Xenoblade games yet!
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
And considering that they managed to lose half the money that they had on their accounts since the Wii days... just wow. At least Capcom was smart when they had only 120 or so million dollars left on their account after the RE6 and DmC failures and radically changed their entire business strategy and started playing it safe... but Nintendo? It's like watching someone crashing a car against a hydrant, then buying a new car and speeding with it at 200 kmh against a wall.
Its a reasonable assumption that a lot of gaffers already owns a PC and not one of them owns a Switch.
I don't think it's the hardware holding it back. Zelda was developed for Wii U - the Switch version is a port of version, they are not throwing away all the stuff they have been working on for all these years. Twilight Princess was the same, both versions used identical assets.
The new titles that were developed for Switch look just fine - they are a decent upgrade from the Wii U.
They assumed incorrectly then.
Besides, this is a terrible argument to begin with. I'm not getting a switch just for Zelda. I'm getting a switch at launch for Zelda. I'm sorry if that offends some people.
And again I ask, why would I buy a gaming PC just for one game? especially knowing down the line I'll be playing the Switch more too.
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