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PS4 Tops January 2017 US Sales

viHuGi

Banned
Sony fans are used to that, so no worries.

Sony fans are used to games since Sony puts on so many games even i can´t buy them all.

This first half alone the line up is absolutely insane with Yakuza 0, GR 2, Ni Oh, Persona V, Horizon, NieR and more, on Summer Crash and Wipeout hopefully and then Fall who knoes, Sony knows how to run this business that´s for sure and i´m pretty sure games will come to Xbox One eventually, some new ips should be announced this e3, no way they are seeing all the negativity and don´t announce anything, they gotta have a huge new IP and a huge new reboot if they even want to stand a chance agaisn´t Ps4 this and next year.
 
Because sales doesn't paint to full picture.
It's all about ecosystem and active user, hardware sale is not important to MS.

^^^ Since when? It mattered 2 years ago. Active users on phones and PC matters more than hardware sales? Yeah ok.

And for the comments mentioning the bump in performance for the Xbox OneS, the launch PS4 is still more powerful. How many people will buy the Scorpio if it's priced higher than the OneS? All the Scorpio comments and memes... what are the launch games?

When the Scorpio launches Sony has marketing for COD,Destiny and Red Dead 2. It will be tough for MS to make an impact... just my opinion. Worlwide Sony will continue to dominate and when they launch the PS5 it will be a bigger than the Scorpio.
 

Welfare

Member
Stop.

Just stop it.

For the love of everything jusssssst sssssstttttttoooooooppppppppppppppp.

It's a new PS4. Running PS4 software. Aggregates with all other PS4 models to the total PS4 installed base.

People were doing the same thing when the N3DS launched.
 

Fredrik

Member
As long as there is forward compatibility it's obviously the same hardware family, stop making it more complicated than it needs to be.

If it helps, Scorpio will add to the Xbox One family too for the same reason.
 

e-gamer

Member
Stop.

Just stop it.

For the love of everything jusssssst sssssstttttttoooooooppppppppppppppp.

It's a new PS4. Running PS4 software. Aggregates with all other PS4 models to the total PS4 installed base.

But the sales talking right now are about hardware. Not software.

The new hardware easily drive more sales and that is a advantage in final numbers for PS4. While we don't have new xbox one/scorpio it's important to see how the vanilla skus are doing...
 

Raylan

Banned
But the sales talking right now are about hardware. Not software.

The new hardware easily drive more sales and that is a advantage in final numbers for PS4. While we don't have new xbox one/scorpio it's important to see how the vanilla skus are doing...
Jesus Christ, dude, people are buying a PS4 Pro instead of a PS4 Slim. Most of them would have bought a PS4 anway. And in the end, they did. They bought a PS4. Nothing more.
 

e-gamer

Member
Jesus Christ, dude, people are buying a PS4 Pro instead of a PS4 Slim. Most of them would have bought a PS4 anway. And in the end, they did. They bought a PS4. Nothing more.

Without the split I think we don't know that.

But the fact is: PS4 is selling few units more just because it has an "aggregate better hardware". NPD guy just confirmed.
 
But the sales talking right now are about hardware. Not software.

The new hardware easily drive more sales and that is a advantage in final numbers for PS4. While we don't have new xbox one/scorpio it's important to see how the vanilla skus are doing...

Except hardware isn't driving software sales - its currently the other way around. We've had a far softer Sept-Nov period this year compared to other years this generation (particularly 2015) because the SOFTWARE offerings were weaker this year for that period, not the hardware offerings. We had a total of 3 new pieces of hardware launch in this period (X1 S, PS4 Pro, PSVR) and even with the added software that PSVR provided, this was still a slower Sept - Nov. Hardware is not driving their own sales, software is. Those days ended sometime in 2014.
 

Raylan

Banned
As of December it was 1.65M ahead, I'm guessing it's 1.7M ahead now. Probably hit 2M before the holidays.
They need better bundles. That's for sure. A white PS4 Pro and an ordinary PS4 pro bundle.

Without the split I think we don't know that.

But the fact is: PS4 is selling few units more just because it has an "aggregate better hardware". NPD guy just confirmed.
I'm sure the dudes on twitter with the Scorpius sign are proud of you.
 

Ricky_R

Member
Of course not. It is widening through PS4 Pro. Not Vanilla!

It's still widening it, and that's only in the US where it's reasonably close. Worldwide it's really a lost cause.

You seem rather obssesed with the Pro being something you don't want it to be so it fits your agenda. What's your goal, really? To say that the Xbone won? You can if it makes you feel good.
 

Fafalada

Fafracer forever
e-gamer said:
But the fact is: PS4 is selling few units more just because it has an "aggregate better hardware".
In other news, XBox and GCN outsold PS2* in second half of 2004.
*Without aggregate better hardware.
 

Anticol

Banned
Of course not. It is widening through PS4 Pro. Not Vanilla!

Xbox is still behind PS4 you're not gonna change that fact, well maybe in your mind, anyway keep going delusional but I will trust the word of a person working for NPD himself, than the word of e-gamer xbox fan.
 

Ricky_R

Member
I don't think so. I just asked for the split. Nothing less and nothing more. What I think about it is my opinion.

Split is irrelevant when it comes to who won NPD though which is your issue. In any case, PS4 sold more in January. Plain and simple.

Should we expect the same narrative from you when Scorpio releases and cumulative sales with the bone surpass those of the PS4?
 

icespide

Banned
Split is irrelevant when it comes to who won NPD though which is your issue. In any case, PS4 sold more in January. Plain and simple.

Should we expect the same narrative from you when Scorpio releases and cumulative sales with the bone surpass those of the PS4?
in that situation it's fair. Obviously
 

sense

Member
Without the split I think we don't know that.

But the fact is: PS4 is selling few units more just because it has an "aggregate better hardware". NPD guy just confirmed.
Xbox one s is technically better hardware than OG Xbox with games running slightly better and includes the "elusive super popular" 4K bluray drive among other things. Using your ridiculous logic should we say Xbox one is doing better numbers lately only because of that and that most of the sales are existing owners upgrading? PS4, PS4 slim and PS4 pro are all part of the same family of systems so Sony are not going to differentiate and give separate numbers. Do you see Microsoft differentiating between the different versions of windows 10 (basic, pro, ultimate, enterprise, education, etc...) when they provide windows 10 install base numbers?
 

e-gamer

Member
Split is irrelevant when it comes to who won NPD though which is your issue. In any case, PS4 sold more in January. Plain and simple.

Should we expect the same narrative from you when Scorpio releases and cumulative sales with the bone surpass those of the PS4?

I think sony fans will change theirs most than I would change mine. You bet!

I'm already saying that Scorpio is another gen.
 

e-gamer

Member
Xbox one s is technically better hardware than OG Xbox with games running slightly better and includes the "elusive super popular" 4K bluray drive among other things. Using your ridiculous logic should we say Xbox one is doing better numbers lately only because of that and that most of the sales are existing owners upgrading? PS4, PS4 slim and PS4 pro are all part of the same family of systems so Sony are not going to differentiate and give separate numbers. Do you see Microsoft differentiating between the different versions of windows 10 (basic, pro, ultimate, enterprise, education, etc...) when they provide windows 10 install base numbers?

But the buying reason are different either way. You can sell a product for more tha one interest.

That's what xbox one lacks with PS4 Pro.

And with the split number we can see if this refresh thing is a successful or not.
 

icespide

Banned
The One S comes in different colors than the PS4 so some users reasons for buying it are different. We should see the split by color to be fair
 

Ricky_R

Member
I think sony fans will change theirs most than I would change mine. You bet!

I'm already saying that Scorpio is another gen.

Ahh now I get it. Scorpio will win NPD by default. That's some clever thinking.

The One S comes in different colors than the PS4 so some users reasons for buying it are different. We should see the split by color to be fair

Don't stop there, let's split bundles. We all know the PS4 wouldn't have been as successful without a Destiny bundle.
 

viHuGi

Banned
I think it's harder for some to accept that PS4 sold more because PRO.

And Media Create splits. So they understand me.

No they don't, they use Ps4 Pro numbers as Ps4, they just split so people know how it's selling, they do same to 3ds and other systems.

So again you are wrong.
 

Anticol

Banned
I think it's harder for some to accept that PS4 sold more because PRO.

And Media Create splits. So they understand me.

If you think PS4 sold better than the Xbone just because of the pro then you are clearly showing you have no idea what you are talking about.

So were the analysts that told internet (and the world) the result of election last year.

You know some of those?

Wow, hopefully idiots like this one(e-gamer) don't hurt the chances to hear the input of people with actual knowledge in these threads.
 

e-gamer

Member
If you think PS4 sold better than the Xbone just because of the pro then you are clearly showing you have no idea what you are talking about.



Wow, hopefully idiots like this one(e-gamer) don't hurt the chances to hear the input of people with actual knowledge in these threads.

Without the split neither do you. I just ask for the split.
 
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