Hydrargyrus
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Now I see for what people are the MS PR focused on.
I've always wondered who could eat that
I've always wondered who could eat that
Sony fans are used to that, so no worries.
You'll have a good laugh with your co-workers on monday.Stop.
Just stop it.
For the love of everything jusssssst sssssstttttttoooooooppppppppppppppp.
It's a new PS4. Running PS4 software. Aggregates with all other PS4 models to the total PS4 installed base.
Because sales doesn't paint to full picture.
It's all about ecosystem and active user, hardware sale is not important to MS.
Stop.
Just stop it.
For the love of everything jusssssst sssssstttttttoooooooppppppppppppppp.
It's a new PS4. Running PS4 software. Aggregates with all other PS4 models to the total PS4 installed base.
Stop.
Just stop it.
For the love of everything jusssssst sssssstttttttoooooooppppppppppppppp.
It's a new PS4. Running PS4 software. Aggregates with all other PS4 models to the total PS4 installed base.
A NPD Guy geting mad just proves how crazy fanatism in these threads gets.
Jesus Christ, dude, people are buying a PS4 Pro instead of a PS4 Slim. Most of them would have bought a PS4 anway. And in the end, they did. They bought a PS4. Nothing more.But the sales talking right now are about hardware. Not software.
The new hardware easily drive more sales and that is a advantage in final numbers for PS4. While we don't have new xbox one/scorpio it's important to see how the vanilla skus are doing...
Jesus Christ, dude, people are buying a PS4 Pro instead of a PS4 Slim. Most of them would have bought a PS4 anway. And in the end, they did. They bought a PS4. Nothing more.
But the sales talking right now are about hardware. Not software.
The new hardware easily drive more sales and that is a advantage in final numbers for PS4. While we don't have new xbox one/scorpio it's important to see how the vanilla skus are doing...
They need better bundles. That's for sure. A white PS4 Pro and an ordinary PS4 pro bundle.As of December it was 1.65M ahead, I'm guessing it's 1.7M ahead now. Probably hit 2M before the holidays.
I'm sure the dudes on twitter with the Scorpius sign are proud of you.Without the split I think we don't know that.
But the fact is: PS4 is selling few units more just because it has an "aggregate better hardware". NPD guy just confirmed.
I assume you believe that you have no bias at all?
There is no problem to be bias, I think.
PS4 widening the gap in the US is eating you up, isn't it?
Of course not. It is widening through PS4 Pro. Not Vanilla!
what? Do you think the Pro is selling more than the Slim?Of course not. It is widening through PS4 Pro. Not Vanilla!
Of course not. It is widening through PS4 Pro. Not Vanilla!
what? Do you think the Pro is selling more than the Slim?
Maybe that's the issue here then.
Your bias is causing you to have a viewpoint that makes no logical sense.
doubt that.Of course not. It is widening through PS4 Pro. Not Vanilla!
In other news, XBox and GCN outsold PS2* in second half of 2004.e-gamer said:But the fact is: PS4 is selling few units more just because it has an "aggregate better hardware".
Of course not. It is widening through PS4 Pro. Not Vanilla!
I don't think so. I just asked for the split. Nothing less and nothing more. What I think about it is my opinion.
in that situation it's fair. ObviouslySplit is irrelevant when it comes to who won NPD though which is your issue. In any case, PS4 sold more in January. Plain and simple.
Should we expect the same narrative from you when Scorpio releases and cumulative sales with the bone surpass those of the PS4?
in that situation it's fair. Obviously
when Scorpio is out both sides have new hardware so it's fair. according to that personWhat situation? Sorry.
Xbox one s is technically better hardware than OG Xbox with games running slightly better and includes the "elusive super popular" 4K bluray drive among other things. Using your ridiculous logic should we say Xbox one is doing better numbers lately only because of that and that most of the sales are existing owners upgrading? PS4, PS4 slim and PS4 pro are all part of the same family of systems so Sony are not going to differentiate and give separate numbers. Do you see Microsoft differentiating between the different versions of windows 10 (basic, pro, ultimate, enterprise, education, etc...) when they provide windows 10 install base numbers?Without the split I think we don't know that.
But the fact is: PS4 is selling few units more just because it has an "aggregate better hardware". NPD guy just confirmed.
when Scorpio is out both sides have new hardware so it's fair. according to that person
Split is irrelevant when it comes to who won NPD though which is your issue. In any case, PS4 sold more in January. Plain and simple.
Should we expect the same narrative from you when Scorpio releases and cumulative sales with the bone surpass those of the PS4?
I think sony fans will change theirs most than I would change mine. You bet!
I'm already saying that Scorpio is another gen.
Xbox one s is technically better hardware than OG Xbox with games running slightly better and includes the "elusive super popular" 4K bluray drive among other things. Using your ridiculous logic should we say Xbox one is doing better numbers lately only because of that and that most of the sales are existing owners upgrading? PS4, PS4 slim and PS4 pro are all part of the same family of systems so Sony are not going to differentiate and give separate numbers. Do you see Microsoft differentiating between the different versions of windows 10 (basic, pro, ultimate, enterprise, education, etc...) when they provide windows 10 install base numbers?
I'm already saying that Scorpio is another gen.
Well, he isn't free of fanatism only because he is a NPD guy.
Ps4
Ps4 Slim
Ps4 Pro
What's so hard to understand? And who are you?
I'm saying I can fly.
Cool. Now we're both wrong.
I think sony fans will change theirs most than I would change mine. You bet!
I'm already saying that Scorpio is another gen.
The One S comes in different colors than the PS4 so some users reasons for buying it are different. We should see the split by color to be fair
I think it's harder for some to accept that PS4 sold more because PRO.
And Media Create splits. So they understand me.
I think it's harder for some to accept that PS4 sold more because PRO.
And Media Create splits. So they understand me.
So were the analysts that told internet (and the world) the result of election last year.
You know some of those?
So were the analysts that told internet (and the world) the result of election last year.
You know some of those?
I think it's harder for some to accept that PS4 sold more because PRO.
Ahh now I get it. Scorpio will win NPD by default. That's some clever thinking.
If you think PS4 sold better than the Xbone just because of the pro then you are clearly showing you have no idea what you are talking about.
Wow, hopefully idiots like this one(e-gamer) don't hurt the chances to hear the input of people with actual knowledge in these threads.
I honestly don't think so. He genuinely believes the nonsense he is spouting imo.....lol the dude is trolling you guys.